User:Pilaz/XfD log

This is a log of all deletion discussion nominations made by this user using Twinkle's XfD module.

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March 2022

1. Robert Shirley, 14th Earl Ferrers: nominated at AfD; notified AndrewJFulker (talk · contribs) 14:14, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
   • Reason: Unnotable British nobleman, fails WP:BIO due to a lack of significant coverage in independent, reliable, secondary sources. Doesn't meet WP:NPOL either, since he never sat in the House of Lords due to inheriting his titles in 2012, way after the House of Lords Act 1999. The 2014 AfD discussion was a WP:ITSNOTABLE fest.
     Source assessment follows.
2. Myles Ponsonby, 12th Earl of Bessborough: nominated at RfD; Target: Earl of Bessborough (notified); notified HandsomeFella (talk · contribs) 10:42, 25 March 2022 (UTC)
   • Reason: Consensus at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Myles Ponsonby, 12th Earl of Bessborough (2nd nomination) was to delete, not to redirect.
3. Michael Warrender, 3rd Baron Bruntisfield: nominated at AfD; notified Wikibiohistory (talk · contribs) 10:55, 25 March 2022 (UTC)
   • Reason: PROD was removed without a rationale. Unnotable British nobleman, fails WP:BIO due to a lack of significant coverage in independent, reliable, secondary sources. Doesn't meet WP:NPOL either, since he never sat in the House of Lords due to inheriting his titles in 2007, way after the House of Lords Act 1999. Keeping this article for genealogy purposes got against our policy that Wikipedia is not a genealogy website.
     Source assessment follows:
4. Alexander Murray, 9th Earl of Mansfield: nominated at AfD; notified Billbowery (talk · contribs) 12:58, 25 March 2022 (UTC)
   • Reason: Non-notable nobleman from Scotland. Fails WP:BIO, and in its current state goes against WP:NOTGENEALOGY. This peer inherited his titles in 2015 and therefore never sat in the House of Lords, so WP:NPOL can't be satisfied. Outside of Burke's Peerage, which is only reliable for genealogy per WP:RSP, the remaining sources don't provide secondary, independent, reliable, and/or significant coverage.
     Source assessment follows:
5. William Pleydell-Bouverie, 9th Earl of Radnor: nominated at AfD; notified Xn4 (talk · contribs) 13:45, 25 March 2022 (UTC)
   • Reason: This article was unprodded without a rationale (diff), so it's now at AfD. The article fails WP:BIO, because the subject of the article is not notable: he never sat in the House of Lords because he inherited his title in 2008, 9 years after the House of Lords Act 1999. Coverage is either not significant, not secondary, not independent, or not from reliable sources. The only acceptable source is Burke's Peerage, which is only reliable for genealogy (see WP:RSP). However, keeping this page only for genealogical reasons runs contrary to one of the policies of the encyclopedia, which is that Wikipedia is not a genealogy website.
     Source assessment follows:
6. Patrick Chichester, 8th Marquess of Donegall: nominated at AfD; notified 212.219.59.222 (talk · contribs) 06:14, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
   • Reason: Nobleman with no inherent notability, fails WP:BIO. Never sat in the House of Lords (he inherited the title in 2000, one year after the House of Lords Act 1999) so can't qualify for WP:NPOL either. The two peerage websites in the article are deprecated per WP:RSP, and Google News only returns a passing mention for 1998, the year before his father lost his seat in the House of Lords. Previous AfD ended as no consensus in 2014.
7. Peter Curzon, 4th Viscount Scarsdale: nominated at AfD; notified 217.33.8.36 (talk · contribs) 18:08, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
   • Reason: It's been a while since the 2014 no consensus discussion. This nobleman fails our notability guideline for biographies, and violates WP:GENEALOGY in its current state, since 95% of the article is about the subject's family. The subject inherited the title in 2000, and therefore never sat in the House of Lords. The sources are deprecated or do not provide significant coverage, except one 1997 article which in my opinion helps meet WP:GNG. However, the coverage is only about one event (WP:BLP1E) and that it's not WP:SUSTAINED.
     Source assessment follows.

April 2022

1. Randal McDonnell, 10th Earl of Antrim: nominated at AfD; notified Moonraker (talk · contribs) 00:02, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
   • Reason: Fairly run-of-the-mill businessperson who is also a nobleman, but who never sat in the House of Lords because they inherited their title after the House of Lords Act 1999. The sources on this person do not help confirm that the person is notable; only genealogy websites pop up, and the rest is not significant coverage, reliable, or independent from the subject.
     Source assessment follows:

August 2022

1. Alastair Morrison, 3rd Baron Margadale: nominated at AfD; notified Craigy144 (talk · contribs) 01:38, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
   • Reason: British lord with no claim to fame. Fails WP:BIO. Didn't sit in the House of Lords either, so cannot qualify for WP:NPOL. BEFORE only turned up a Daily Mail piece and one run-of-the-mill piece in the Times. He is also a Deputy Lieutenant (DL) for Wiltshire, which is only a honorary position, and there are lots of precedents for deletion of DL articles, such as Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sir Philip Grey Egerton, 11th Baronet and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jane Williams, Baroness Williams of Elvel. Source assessment follows:

September 2022

1. Sebastian Browne, 12th Marquess of Sligo: nominated at AfD; notified Choess (talk · contribs) 00:22, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
   • Reason: British noblesman who fails WP:BIO, in particular WP:BASIC. Never sat in the House of Lords so cannot qualify for WP:NPOL either. The London Gazette and Sydney Morning Herald sources are primary and do not provide significant coverage; and Debrett's only covers the subject's genealogy, which is insufficient to establish notability. BEFORE didn't turn up any reliable sources, with the exception of a passing mention regarding his family's estate. Potential redirect target at Marquess of Sligo.
2. Alexander Howard, 22nd Earl of Suffolk: nominated at AfD; notified Mesmeilleurs (talk · contribs) 10:28, 18 September 2022 (UTC)
   • Reason: Nobleman from Britain without a notability claim, fails WP:BIO. Nobles are not inherently notable, and this one does not qualify for WP:NPOL as he has never sat in the House of Lords. The sources found during my BEFORE were insufficient to establish notability: theeperage.com is unreliable per [[[WP:RSP]]; the Daily Mail was deprecated; the Telegraph [1] and Wiltshire Live [2] only give passing mentions. Possible redirect target: Earl of Suffolk.
3. Template:British courtesy viscounts: nominated at TfD; notified Craigy144 (talk · contribs) 18:22, 18 September 2022 (UTC)
   • Reason: Redundant with Category:British courtesy viscounts, per WP:TMPG.
4. David Ward, 5th Earl of Dudley: nominated at AfD; notified CAWylie (talk · contribs) 20:00, 18 September 2022 (UTC)
   • Reason: Fails WP:BIO due to a lack of in-depth, secondary, independent, reliable coverage. The subject is a British nobleman who does not qualify for WP:NPOL due to inheriting his current title in 2013. The sources in the article are a passing mention (obituary), a self-published peerage website, and a BEFORE only turned up a Spectator article [3] which mentions him in one paragraph, which is insufficient given that WP:SPECTATOR pieces are treated as opinion pieces. Possible redirect target: Earl of Dudley.
5. John Tottenham, 9th Marquess of Ely: nominated at AfD; notified RockmeGently (talk · contribs) 02:05, 26 September 2022 (UTC)
   • Reason: Zero coverage, fails WP:BIO. British nobles aren't inherently notable, and BEFORE didn't turn up any mention of the John Tottenham who succeeded his father in 2006 in reliable sources. Debrett's as the only source is problematic, since it only namechecks the subject's ancestry. The subject also never sat in the House of Lords, so they cannot qualify for WP:NPOL either. Possible redirect target: Marquess of Ely.

October 2022

1. Christopher Taylour, 7th Marquess of Headfort: nominated at AfD; notified Jgefd (talk · contribs) 20:11, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
   • Reason: Irish peer, fails WP:BASIC due to a lack of secondary, independent, reliable sources covering the subject in depth. Earned the title of marquess in 2005 and therefore cannot qualify for WP:NPOL due to the House of Lords Act 1999, which deprived them of a seat in the House of Lords.
     Source assessment follows:
2. Charles Townshend, 8th Marquess Townshend: nominated at AfD; notified Jwasanders (talk · contribs) 21:58, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
   • Reason: This marquess fails WP:BASIC, having earned no multiple, secondary, reliable, in-depth coverage. He never got to sit in the House of Lords and therefore cannot qualify for WP:NPOL. While there is some passing coverage of the marquess in a handful of sources, he is never the subject of the article, and the amount of words dedicated to him in reliable sources never climb above 10% of the article's total. Arguably, an article about his mansion could be written, but at present the notability of the marquess is in my view not established. Possible redirect target: Marquess Townshend.
     My (long) source assessment follows.
3. Jules Androt: nominated at AfD; notified Lugnuts (talk · contribs) 16:15, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
   • Reason: Seemingly non-notable Belgian boxer. Fails WP:BASIC and WP:NOLYMPICS. Competed at the 1920 Olympics but didn't make it past the round of 16, per Belgium at the 1920 Summer Olympics. An extensive Google search result and Google Scholar search produced no results outside of wiki mirrors. If anybody else finds time, I believe a lot of athlete articles linked to Belgium at the 1920 Summer Olympics need a notability check.
4. Hyatt Regency Valencia: nominated at AfD; notified Crossover1370 (talk · contribs) 00:55, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
   • Reason: Fails WP:GNG. Coverage is either not significant, not independent, not secondary, or not from reliable sources. The only claim to fame is being the tallest building in Santa Clarita, California (pop. 200,000). WP:BEFORE only reveals spotty coverage from Santa Clarita Valley's local newspaper (The Signal), and coverage is WP:MILL puff pieces which conveniently include the phone number of the hotel at the bottom: they opened a bar! new boss! etc. Not quite the fact-checking RS we would expect to have covered a notable location.
5. Violence against trannies: nominated at RfD; Target: Violence against LGBT people (notified); notified Severa (talk · contribs) 01:08, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
   • Reason: Fails WP:RNEUTRAL. In 2022, Tranny is an offensive and derogatory slur for a transgender individual. This redirect is from 2007, and it sits at the time of writing at 0 views in the past 30 days.
6. Nicholas Hill, 9th Marquess of Downshire: nominated at AfD; notified RockmeGently (talk · contribs) 21:00, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
   • Reason: British nobleman, fails WP:BIO: I found very little coverage in reliable sources for "Nicholas Hill", "Marquess of Downshire", and "Nick Downshire", and the little I found was passing mentions. British nobles aren't inherently notable. He also never sat in the House of Lords, so he cannot qualify for WP:NPOL either.
     My source assessment follows:

July 2023

1. Richard Neville, 11th Baron Braybrooke: nominated at AfD; notified DMEVB (talk · contribs) 00:35, 12 July 2023 (UTC)
   • Reason: This article was recreated in May 2023, but it still fails WP:BASIC and WP:ANYBIO. British peers are not inherently notable. Neville was also never elected to the House of Lords, so WP:NPOL is not met either. I wonder if WP:SALT is worth considering here.
     On top of the source assessment of the previous AfD which closed as delete, I am adding my personal source assessment for the new sources below.
2. Henry Beresford, 9th Marquess of Waterford: nominated at AfD; notified Dhayes00 (talk · contribs) 19:20, 12 July 2023 (UTC)
   • Reason: Fails WP:BIO and WP:ANYBIO due to a lack of in-depth secondary coverage from reliable sources. Marquesses are not inherently notable, and this particular one never sat in the House of Lords, so WP:NPOL doesn't apply here either.
     My personal source assessment follows:
3. Nicholas Hill, 9th Marquess of Downshire: nominated at AfD; notified RockmeGently (talk · contribs) 14:58, 23 July 2023 (UTC)
   • Reason: This article was recreated but still doesn't meet WP:BIO due to a lack of significant coverage from multiple, reliable secondary sources. The subject doesn't get a pass at WP:NPOL due to never sitting in the House of Lords.
     The only piece of significant coverage for this individual comes from a local newspaper. A source assessment follows. See also the previous AfD for a review of other sources.

August 2023

1. Stewart Douglas, 22nd Earl of Morton: nominated at AfD; notified Shipsview (talk · contribs) 13:13, 9 August 2023 (UTC)
   • Reason: Scottish landowner and nobleman who fails WP:GNG, with no claim to fame. The sources which cover the 22nd earl are either not secondary, not independent, not reliable, and/or fail to provide significant coverage. This earl also never sat in the House of Lords due to inheriting his title post-1999.
     Possible redirect target: Earl of Morton.
2. Roger Lambart, 13th Earl of Cavan: nominated at AfD; notified Aatomic1 (talk · contribs) 14:58, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
   • Reason: Nobleman of the peerage of Ireland with no significant coverage. Fails WP:GNG and WP:NOTGENEALOGY. Earls are not inherently notable. Possible redirect target: Earl of Cavan.
3. John Lowry-Corry, 8th Earl Belmore: nominated at AfD; notified Jonnyk84 (talk · contribs) 16:26, 27 August 2023 (UTC)
   • Reason: Nobleman from Northern Ireland, fails WP:BIO/WP:GNG due to a lack of secondary reliable sources providing significant coverage of the subject. BEFORE turned up only passing mentions, like here, or there, but nothing arising to SIGCOV levels. The title of Earl Belmore may be notable, but the 8th Earl isn't.

September 2023

1. Randal Alexander McDonnell, 10th Earl of Antrim: nominated at AfD; notified Moonraker (talk · contribs) 17:10, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
   • Reason: Nobleman from the peerage of Ireland, but without enough SIGCOV to justify a standalone article: fails WP:BIO / WP:GNG. BEFORE didn't turn up more sources than what is in the article, see the source assessment below.
     Being a Deputy Lieutenant (DL) isn't particularly useful to assert notability either, since they are subordinates to the ceremonial county's Lord-Lieutenant, "an honorary titular position usually awarded to a retired notable person in the county". In past AFDs, several biographies carrying the honorary title of DL resulted in deletion (see, for example, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sir James Stronge, 2nd Baronet, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Richard Birdwood, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Commander Herbert Roff Newton). If it were newsworthy, one would expect some sort of coverage related to this, but it doesn't seem appear to exist in this specific case.
2. William Hawke, 12th Baron Hawke: nominated at AfD; notified HandsomeFella (talk · contribs) 02:27, 14 September 2023 (UTC)
   • Reason: Fails WP:BIO / WP:GNG. BEFORE turned up no other suitable sources that would help meet the general notability guideline. Burke's Peerage is a tertiary source that provides no SIGCOV besides routine information (DOB, parents and children), and Peerage News is a self-published source. Ultimately, Wikipedia articles are not genealogical entries.
3. Charles James, 6th Baron Northbourne: nominated at AfD; notified UKBusinessEditor2019 (talk · contribs) 13:21, 25 September 2023 (UTC)
   • Reason: Fails WP:BIO: I couldn't find any significant coverage in reliable sources (or anywhere else, really). Never sat in the House of Lords, so WP:NPOL isn't met; and being a Deputy Lieutenant, a ceremonial title, is insufficient, since it has been found several times at AFD to not be enough to satisfy our notability guidelines. The two offline sources in the article are not independent from the subject, and are not about the subject.
4. Francis Napier, 15th Lord Napier: nominated at AfD; notified LeeNapier (talk · contribs) 14:28, 25 September 2023 (UTC)
   • Reason: Fails WP:BIO: insufficient coverage in reliable sources WP:NOTGENEALOGY. Had an unsuccessful run at a by-elections to the House of Lords whose only coverage were two sentences beyond his non-independent candidate statement. [4]. Redirect possibility: Lord Napier.
5. Robert Deane, 9th Baron Muskerry: nominated at AfD; notified 196.22.238.246 (talk · contribs) 20:59, 30 September 2023 (UTC)
   • Reason: This nobleman fails WP:BIO, due to no significant coverage in multiple reliable sources. BEFORE did not turn up anything satisfying the GNG criteria. Gets passing mentions in the tertiary sources Debrett's and Burke's, but then again, WP:NOTGENEALOGY.

October 2023

1. Maurice Roche, 6th Baron Fermoy: nominated at AfD; notified OP41 (talk · contribs) 13:34, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
   • Reason: This nobleman from the peerage of Ireland, who is also a businessman, has no particular claim to notability other than the title. Fails WP:BASIC. BEFORE did not turn up anything other than passing mentions due to being related to Diana Spencer, and a Tatler interview, which is not independent from the subject.
2. David Kennedy, 9th Marquess of Ailsa: nominated at AfD; notified DACC23 (talk · contribs) 13:13, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
   • Reason: Recreated after deletion, this nobleman's article still fails WP:BASIC, WP:ANYBIO, and WP:NOTGENEALOGY. The new sources added are not independent (COSCA) or provide significant coverage of the subject (Burke's Peerage and the 3 obituaries of his brother). See also the previous deletion discussion for an assessment of the existing sources.

February 2024

1. Koumac Airport: nominated at AfD; notified Gittinsj (talk · contribs) 15:40, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
   • Reason: I was only able to find non-significant coverage for this airport, namely this, this and this. Fails WP:GNG.

March 2024

1. Henry Thomas Alexander Erskine, 18th Earl of Buchan: nominated at AfD; notified GoldenBootWizard276 (talk · contribs) 05:05, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
   • Reason: Nobles aren't inherently notable: this one fails WP:BIO due to a lack of significant coverage. Burke's, Debrett's and other genealogical entries only show mentions with no in-depth coverage and are tertiary sources, and therefore cannot count towards WP:GNG, and the Telegraph article has no mention of the 18th Earl.

April 2024

1. Embassy of Azerbaijan, Canberra: nominated at AfD; notified Adelee296 (talk · contribs) 21:47, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
   • Reason: Another embassy article that fails WP:GNG. There's really not much about this embassy that wouldn't fit under Australia–Azerbaijan relations: the only coverage I could find was this non-independent press release regarding the creation of the embassy; this small clash between Azeris and Armenians outside of the embassy; and the fact that the embassy staff imported over 40,000 cigarettes and lots of booze, possibly to sell it to the black market. All in all, there's nothing really noteworthy *about the embassy* that makes me thing we should be keeping this article, and all the material I dug up could end up at Australia–Azerbaijan relations. I think a redirect here would be a good fit.

May 2024

1. Best Dick Sucker: nominated at AfD; notified Kagnaroos (talk · contribs) 21:21, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
   • Reason: Fails WP:NSINGLE, only trivial coverage for this particular song, in The Fader article and other reviews I managed to find online. The album is likely notable though, so that's a potential redirect target.