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Malcolmlucascollins (talk) 04:39, 4 March 2018 (UTC)I think that it would be easier to have Reference 38 changed to Reference 8b in Neron (DC Comics) in order to save space. Besides, I tried to fix it several times and somehow I couldn't do it. I'm not too computer-savvy anyway and I figured when in doubt, go to an expert. If you or someone else could please change it, that would be great! Thank you, Sam Sailor.Malcolmlucascollins (talk) 04:39, 4 March 2018 (UTC)

@Malcolmlucascollins: Done in Special:Diff/829689948/829795355, it's called WP:NAMEDREFS. Sam Sailor 21:28, 10 March 2018 (UTC)

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Signpost issue 4 – 29 March 2018

New Page Review Newsletter No.10

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Books & Bytes - Issue 27

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The Signpost: 26 April 2018

Sagittarius+

Hi, User:Sam Sailor/Scripts/Sagittarius+ looks interesting. :-) I've fixed the link to point to Kephir's gadget's documentation page, instead of the code.

I'm just commenting here to suggest that you add a link to your script at User:Kephir/gadgets/sagittarius, and perhaps a mention on the talkpage there. Also it would be good to link your script (and perhaps Kephir's) from Wikipedia:WikiProject Redirect, and mention it on the talkpage there. That way people who do these tasks will be able to find it. Cheers :) Quiddity (talk) 18:15, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for the sensible retargeting of the links, and for your suggestions that I have followed. Best, Sam Sailor 10:00, 29 April 2018 (UTC)

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The feedback request service is asking for participation in this request for comment on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Film. Legobot (talk) 04:23, 17 May 2018 (UTC)

21:26:49, 16 May 2018 review of submission by December26th


Hi there,

I hope you are really well,

I wanted to get your advice on getting my article on Rufus Martin and his work up to scratch.

So I spoke to another user and they said that the references needed to be nationwide newspapers or similar, I was wondering if there was something wrong with the references I provided for the articles about Rufus in the Sunday Times, Hello Magazine, The Daily Mail (I understand why you may question this source), designboom, TreeHugger, Indesign and Nanotecture.

Maybe I didn't give enough supporting material to these? Shall I find more articles on him?

What would you recommend,

If it doesn't work out I have enjoyed the process of making this article alot, Thank you

Q December26th (talk) 21:26, 16 May 2018 (UTC)

@December26th: I will be happy to give you some feedback.
I suppose you have read the links in the pink boxes in the draft? If not, Wikipedia:The answer to life, the universe, and everything sums up what we are after.
The challenge with Draft:Rufus Martin is that there is very little about him in the sources provided, they are all about his hanging tent "roomoon". Nothing wrong with that, but it does leave us with a lack of significant coverage about Martin. We are talking about refs 7–14 in the current revision, but I do need to say, that I can't vet the articles in The Sunday Times or Hello Magazine. My guess is, they are about the tent, not the designer.
In short: young designer graduated last year, had a nice design idea in 2013 that got some publicity ... and that's about it.
You may find it worthwhile to at least read the nutshells of WP:COI and perhaps WP:AB. Nothing in the sources say anything about Martin's family and partner.
My recommendation is that you leave it to somebody else to write about Martin at some point in the future. And, naturally, that you join Wikipedia as a regular editor. Where do you want to start? Sam Sailor 22:58, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
@Sam Sailor:Thank you very much for your feedback, I completely see your point, it's the product more than Martin. I'll keep it as a draft for now and watch him and maybe he will do something more of note. Thank you also for the link ill check those out as soon as possible. I'll start with Classicism, there must be some holes there. Thank you for your helpful advice and feedback. Q December26th (talk) 00:04, 17 May 2018 (UTC)
 December26th: Thank you for your thoughtful reply. You are always welcome here if you have any questions, although you are guaranteed quicker feedback at the Wikipedia:Teahouse. Happy editing, Sam Sailor 06:21, 17 May 2018 (UTC)

List of IMAX venues

Hi, Regarding your pruning of this list, can you please comment on the talk page? Thanks. Barry Wom (talk) 17:35, 18 May 2018 (UTC) Responded at Talk:List of IMAX venues. Sam Sailor 14:39, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

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Aneel Murarka Protect

Hi,Dear I want to Semi Protect In Artical of Aneel Murarka. RishijiKumar (talk) 06:53, 23 May 2018 (UTC)

I don't see a need for protection on Aneel Murarka (and I'm not a sysop anyway), but what is your concern? Sam Sailor 06:55, 23 May 2018 (UTC)

The Signpost: 24 May 2018

NPR Newsletter No.11 25 May 2018

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your assistance please...

I see you redirected Suzanne Elrod to Leonard Cohen. But I don't see where you discussed this edit.

Did you discuss this redirection with anyone, prior to making it?

We have {{prod}}, and {{afd}}. When used, as per the documentation, the article creator gets a heads-up, and gets to discuss the concerns of the individual who doesn't think the topic merits an article. But, when someone redirects an article, on their sole judgement, there is no heads-up.

Even if, for the sake of argument, almost everyone would agree with the redirector, I think there is value in informing the article creator. I am working on an essay, every question, every disagreement, is a teachable moment. In it I assert that since the wikipedia has no tutorials, no training manual, we should regard disagreements as opportunities to educate one another.

Even if, for the sake of argument, the article creator has an (obvious(?)) blindspot, how are they to learn about this mistake, and stop making that (obvious(?)) error, if the redirector doesn't leave them a heads-up?

It may not have occurred to you, but an undiscussed redirection can look like a kind of clandestine stealth deletion.

So, is there a place where you discussed this redirection, prior to its execution? If there is not I suggest you be more careful about redirecting articles, without discussion.

Cheers! Geo Swan (talk) 11:35, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

I will gladly assist you, Geo..
The relevant policy, in this case, is our Deletion policy, and the relevant section is WP:ATD-R (Alternatives to deletion, Redirection). Contrary to your misconception that "redirection can look like a kind of clandestine stealth deletion" it, in fact, is the exact opposite as it preserves the public editing history. If you would read the policy, you see it says "any user can boldly blank the page and redirect it to another article". No discussion is required. This does not mean, that another editor cannot undo the redirect and restore the article, they can.
I hope this helps, but I am surprised that you do not know of this important policy. The next time you find yourself in a situation like this, simply ask your fellow editor why they did what they did. Your attempts to be clever/condescending/patronizing all fail and, sorry, at best they make you sound silly. Sam Sailor 05:03, 31 May 2018 (UTC)