User talk:Aagreeny4

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Cordless Larry (talk) 08:22, 22 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Mike "Greeny" Green (August 6)[edit]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Arthur goes shopping was:

This submission appears to read more like an advertisement than an entry in an encyclopedia. Encyclopedia articles need to be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources, not just to materials produced by the creator of the subject being discussed. This is important so that the article can meet Wikipedia's verifiability policy and the notability of the subject can be established. If you still feel that this subject is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia, please rewrite your submission to comply with these policies.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

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Arthur goes shopping (talk) 12:41, 6 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! Aagreeny4, I noticed your article was declined at Articles for Creation, and that can be disappointing. If you are wondering or curious about why your article submission was declined please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Arthur goes shopping (talk) 12:41, 6 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

AfC notification: Draft:Mike "Greeny" Green has a new comment[edit]

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Mike "Greeny" Green. Thanks! JSFarman (talk) 14:04, 21 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Mike "Greeny" Green (August 29)[edit]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Onel5969 was:

The content of this submission includes material that does not meet Wikipedia's minimum standard for inline citations. Please cite your sources using footnotes. For instructions on how to do this, please see Referencing for beginners. Thank you.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

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Onel5969 ^{TT me} 14:01, 29 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! Aagreeny4, I noticed your article was declined at Articles for Creation, and that can be disappointing. If you are wondering or curious about why your article submission was declined please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Onel5969 ^{TT me} 14:01, 29 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Mike "Greeny" Green (September 27)[edit]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Sulfurboy was:

This submission's references do not adequately show the subject's notability—see the guidelines on the notability of people and the golden rule. Please improve the submission's referencing, so that the information is verifiable, and there is clear evidence of why the subject is notable and worthy of inclusion in an encyclopedia.
What you can do: Add citations (see Wikipedia:Referencing for beginners) to secondary reliable sources that are entirely independent of the subject.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Mike "Greeny" Green and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
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Sulfurboy (talk) 05:38, 27 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Mike "Greeny" Green (November 1)[edit]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Bearcat was:

The referencing is still far too strongly dependent on press releases from universities' public relations departments and on university or college student newspapers, which are not considered reliable sourcing -- the article contains very few sources that can validly support a credible claim of notability under Wikipedia's inclusion rules. Further, the article is still written far too much like a public relations profile, and not enough like an encyclopedia article; the overall writing tone has not been substantively revised since the first decline. Creator is also advised to familiarize himself with Wikipedia's conflict of interest rules.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

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Bearcat (talk) 17:06, 1 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

What you need to understand is that "sources which are acceptable for confirmation of facts" and "sources which actually count toward demonstrating notability" are two different things. A source can be perfectly fine for the first thing, but fail to contribute anything toward the second.

Reliable sources, for our purposes, are general-market daily newspapers in media markets of at least regional prominence, general interest newsstand magazines, academic journals, television and radio coverage, books and on and so forth. It's not press releases, regardless of what type of organization they're coming from, because those are primary sources. And itt's not student fraternity or sorority magazines like The Rattle, or student newspapers like the East Tennessean. Sources like that may be acceptable for some supplementary confirmation of facts after you've already covered off the basic notability question with adequate sourcing of the type I mentioned in the first sentence of this paragraph, but press releases and student media do not count toward accruing notability, so they cannot be the foundation of an article's sourcing.

Out of all the sources in the entire article, the only two that actually count for anything at all toward demonstrating notability are the Chronicle of Higher Education and the Washington Post — but you're only citing one article from the Chronicle, and the Post isn't supporting any facts that would actually get him into an encyclopedia by themselves (it just namechecks his existence in a list of marathon finishers, and isn't actually substantive coverage about him.) So all there really is is the one Chronicle of Higher Education article, but one article isn't enough to get a person into Wikipedia by itself if all of the other sourcing is to press releases and student media.

Hope that helps a bit. Bearcat (talk) 19:46, 1 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Mike "Greeny" Green (November 5)[edit]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by LaMona was:

This submission's references do not adequately show the subject's notability—see the guidelines on the notability of people and the golden rule. Please improve the submission's referencing, so that the information is verifiable, and there is clear evidence of why the subject is notable and worthy of inclusion in an encyclopedia.
What you can do: Add citations (see Wikipedia:Referencing for beginners) to secondary reliable sources that are entirely independent of the subject.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Mike "Greeny" Green and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
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LaMona (talk) 01:44, 5 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Mike "Greeny" Green (November 9)[edit]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Robert McClenon was:

This submission's references do not adequately show the subject's notability—see the guidelines on the notability of people and the golden rule. Please improve the submission's referencing, so that the information is verifiable, and there is clear evidence of why the subject is notable and worthy of inclusion in an encyclopedia.
What you can do: Add citations (see Wikipedia:Referencing for beginners) to secondary reliable sources that are entirely independent of the subject.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Mike "Greeny" Green and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
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Robert McClenon (talk) 19:07, 9 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

AfC notification: Draft:Mike "Greeny" Green has a new comment[edit]

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Mike "Greeny" Green. Thanks! Robert McClenon (talk) 19:08, 9 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Resubmission[edit]

Please do not continue resubmitting your draft article without addressing the reviewers' comments. Robert McClenon (talk) 19:09, 9 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

AfC notification: Draft:Mike "Greeny" Green has a new comment[edit]

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Mike "Greeny" Green. Thanks! Fiddle Faddle 22:28, 9 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Mike "Greeny" Green (November 10)[edit]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Timtrent was:

This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources. Reliable sources are required so that information can be verified. If you need help with referencing, please see Referencing for beginners and Citing sources.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

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Fiddle Faddle 10:34, 10 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Talkback[edit]

Hello, Aagreeny4. You have new messages at Timtrent's talk page.
Message added 16:48, 10 November 2015 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.[reply]

Fiddle Faddle 16:48, 10 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Mike "Greeny" Green (November 21)[edit]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Robert McClenon was:

This submission's references do not adequately show the subject's notability—see the guidelines on the notability of people and the golden rule. Please improve the submission's referencing, so that the information is verifiable, and there is clear evidence of why the subject is notable and worthy of inclusion in an encyclopedia.
What you can do: Add citations (see Wikipedia:Referencing for beginners) to secondary reliable sources that are entirely independent of the subject.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Mike "Greeny" Green and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
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Robert McClenon (talk) 02:17, 21 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

AfC notification: Draft:Mike "Greeny" Green has a new comment[edit]

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Mike "Greeny" Green. Thanks! Robert McClenon (talk) 02:18, 21 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

November 2015[edit]

Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did at Draft:Mike "Greeny" Green. Your edits appear to be disruptive and have been or will be reverted or removed.

If you are engaged in an article content dispute with another editor then please discuss the matter with the editor at their talk page, or the article's talk page. Alternatively you can read Wikipedia's dispute resolution page, and ask for independent help at one of the relevant notice boards.
If you are engaged in any other form of dispute that is not covered on the dispute resolution page, please seek assistance at Wikipedia's Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents.

Please ensure you are familiar with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines, and please do not continue to make edits that appear disruptive, until the dispute is resolved through consensus. Continuing to edit disruptively could result in loss of editing privileges. Continuing to resubmit this draft without following advice is tendentious. You were advised to trim the "Awards" section, for instance. You were advised to add wiki-links, and added malformed wiki-links, suggesting that you didn't view it. Robert McClenon (talk) 02:20, 21 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Conflict of interest[edit]

As you revealed here, you are related to Mike "Greeny" Green and therefore have a conflict of interest. As such, I suggest that you read Wikipedia:Conflict of interest, and especially the section Wikipedia:Conflict of interest#Declaring an interest, which has some instructions that you should follow. Note that the policy states that contributing to Wikipedia about yourself, family, friends, clients, employers, or your financial or other relationships is strongly discouraged. Cordless Larry (talk) 08:55, 23 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the link. I will read it. I did know about discourage article about knowing subjects. I read and agreed to that before I was allowed to start. I have had other neutral parties read the article though and will continue to let them read/edit for neutrality.

thank you

Aagreeny4 (talk) 17:40, 23 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Please do read it carefully. You would be better off making requests using the {{request edit}} template than editing the article yourself. Cordless Larry (talk) 17:56, 23 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you that looks like a good idea and I will use it. One question should I ask for edits of sections at a time or can I ask for help with the entire article, is that to much to ask?

Thank You Aagreeny4 (talk) 18:02, 23 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, given that the article is currently a draft and is subject to review, it might just be easier for you to edit it directly. If and when the draft is reviewed and moved to the mainspace, you should then use the template to make edit requests. Cordless Larry (talk) 18:27, 23 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. Sorry I'm a little confused. Since my article is nominated for deletion can I still edit and submit my article.

Then once it's accepted ask for edits, and I can't do that now?

Thank you! Aagreeny4 (talk) 19:48, 23 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

You can still work on an article that has been nominated for deletion. Often, it is absolutely necessary to do so to assuage the concerns expressed in the deletion nomination. Since yo have a conflict of interest with this article, you would be best advised to use the edit request template were it in mainspace, but since it is a draft, your edits will be reviewed by an experienced editor anyway, so if I were you I would declare your conflict of interest on the article's talk page and then continue to edit it until you think it is ready for another review. Cordless Larry (talk) 20:26, 23 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much, you were really helpful!

Aagreeny4 (talk) 20:33, 23 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Mike "Greeny" Green (January 4)[edit]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by RadioFan was:

please clean up the references. The same reference isn't needed as a footnote, bulleted in the references section and as an external link.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

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RadioFan (talk) 02:03, 4 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

AfC notification: Draft:Mike "Greeny" Green has a new comment[edit]

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Mike "Greeny" Green. Thanks! Devopam (talk) 10:31, 27 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Mike "Greeny" Green (January 27)[edit]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Joseph2302 was:

This submission's references do not adequately show the subject's notability. Wikipedia requires significant coverage about the subject in reliable sources that are independent of the subject—see the guidelines on the notability of people and the golden rule. Please improve the submission's referencing (see Wikipedia:Referencing for beginners), so that the information is verifiable, and there is clear evidence of why the subject is notable and worthy of inclusion in an encyclopedia. If additional reliable sources cannot be found for the subject, then it may not be suitable for Wikipedia at this time.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

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Joseph2302 (talk) 20:39, 27 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

MfD nomination of Draft:Mike "Greeny" Green[edit]

Draft:Mike "Greeny" Green, a page which you created or substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; you may participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Mike "Greeny" Green and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of Draft:Mike "Greeny" Green during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. Cordless Larry (talk) 20:49, 5 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Teahouse reply[edit]

Hello, Aagreeny4. Your question has been answered at the Teahouse Q&A board. Feel free to reply there!
Please note that all old questions are archived after 2-3 days of inactivity. Message added by Cordless Larry (talk) 08:25, 9 March 2016 (UTC). (You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{teahouse talkback}} template).[reply]