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Elias Vandalizing "Ancient Arabia"

Although I tried to be nice to him and explain to him how Arabia is a geographic term more than a race. I showed him how historians confirm thta the Akkadians lived in Arabia. Yet he insists on vandalizing the article because he thinks the Akkadians are not Arabs in the modern since! He used a sockpuppet (dbachmann) he used him in his edit wars in the Aramean article and other Assyrian related articles. Can you please protect the article? or try to talk some sense into him, because he is ignoring my attempts to reason with him.--Skatewalk 12:02, 14 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Maps

What's up bro. Are these maps ok for wikipedia? [1]. It would be nice if we could use this one [2] and this one [3]. Slacker 09:52, 14 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Disambiguating UAE emirates and capitals

At several of the talk pages for the individual Emirates of the UAE, queries or proposals have been put forth for having separate articles for the emirates and their eponymous capitals (e.g. here and here. As of now, two of the emirates have been disambiguated from their capitals: Abu Dhabi (emirate) / Abu Dhabi and Ajmān / Ajmān (city). If you are interested in discussing a comprehensive approach to the issue, please see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Western Asia#Disambiguating UAE emirates and capitals. — AjaxSmack 19:07, 14 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ancient Arabia

Hi Ammar, I wonder if you could help me find relivant iformation about that akkadians where acuatlly arabs? since i bleive thats uncorect but its still listed that they are?. thanksBalu2000 19:18, 15 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ha 3yni shlonek?, Yes they did but they are not arab so far as I know. I think the Article should be written in a diffrent way like "Akkadian lived in Arabia or the orgiante from arabia" thats more sense. and safe someones ass from bieng blocked. Ya bye hobi. Balu2000 21:36, 15 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Inappropiate warnings

Please do not give warnings to a user if your in a content dispute this is not vandalism. --Vonones 22:13, 15 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yes but this is obvious this is not vandalism; but this is a content dispute, you should try comprising with him instead of trying to get him blocked. --Vonones 22:40, 15 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm going to edit the article if you disagree please note it on the talkpage I will add references of scholars/historians for both parties hopefully. --Vonones 22:48, 15 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

OK, but read the discussion page anyways . Ammar (^Talk - ^{Don't Talk}) 22:51, 15 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sure. --Vonones 22:52, 15 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Arab Jews

Hey Ammar, how are you?, I wonder if you could help improving the article Arab Jews it look like a mess.I am also trying to putting "Arabic" into the ethnobox on Jew but it seems that some Jews are unhappy with the facts. check discussion Balu2000 16:14, 17 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

well yes, its pretty much sorted but look at the intro, it is used "Hareidi" Judaism wich only refer to Ashkenazim, but i am not so sure, i though t you knew this hehe thanks anyway.

Dhruma + Maps

Hello Ammar. Can I move "Dhurma" back to "Dhruma"? Because nobody pronounces it "Dhurma" :).

Regarding the maps I showed you, aren't they in the public domain because they were generated by the British Naval Intelligence? Also, what license should I use if I want to upload them, and are they eligible for Commons? Thanks. -- Slacker 01:13, 18 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

9aba7 el ward, but it's evening where I am right now ;) "Dhruma" is not technically correct either in Fus7a; the Fus7a way of writing it is "Dharma" or "Dharama". Maybe I can look at some English-languages sources that mention the town and try to find the most common spelling and use that? -- Slacker 01:32, 18 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ok man , you are the expert here :) i thought you wrote Dhruma by mistake Ammar (^Talk - ^{Don't Talk}) 01:34, 18 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Star Award

Shukran Ammar = )--Skatewalk 00:56, 20 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Merge

The date parameter can be safely left to a WP:BOT, but it is formatted date=August 2007. Rich Farmbrough, 19:20 20 August 2007 (GMT).

A reduced entry on Ancient Arabia

Can you please evaluate before I start editing on this subject?

The Akkadians and Amorites in Ancient Arabia

The earliest known events in Arabian history are migrations from the peninsula into neighbouring areas ^[1]. Around 3500 BC, Semitic-speaking peoples of Akkadian origin migrated from their homeland in the Arabian peninsula into the valley of the Tigris and Euphrates rivers in Mesopotamia, supplanted the Sumerians, and became the Mesopotamian Akkadians (see Akkadians)^[2]. The Ammuru/Amorites is another group of Semites left Arabia around 2500 BC during the Early Bronze Age and settled along the Levant, mixing in with the local populations there. Some of these migrants became the Amorites and Canaanites of later times^[3]^[4]

Bernard Lewis mentions in his book The Arabs in History:

"According to this, Arabia was originally a land of great fertility and the first home of the Semitic peoples. Through the millennia it has been undergoing a process of steady desiccation, a drying up of wealth and waterways and a spread of the desert at the expense of the cultivable land. The declining productivity of the peninsula, together with the increase in the number of the inhabitants, led to a series of crises of overpopulation and consequently to a recurring cycle of invasions of the neighbouring countries by the Semitic peoples of the peninsula. It was these crises that carried the Assyrians, Aramaeans, Canaanites (including the Phoenicians and Hebrews), and finally the Arabs themselves into the Fertile Crescent."^[5]

References

^ Philip Khuri Hitti (2002), History of the Arabs, Revised: 10th Edition
^ http://www.wsu.edu/~dee/MESO/AKKAD.HTM Washington State University; Akkadians Study
^ http://concise.britannica.com/ebc/article-9007224/Amorites The Amorites migration from Arabia
^ http://www.britannica.com/eb/article-9007224/Amorite The Amorites origin - Britannica
^ Bernard Lewis (2002), The Arabs in History, Oxford University Press, USA; 6New Ed edition, page 17 ISBN 019280317

--Skatewalk 08:39, 21 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Very good now, but also try to find the ISBN numbers for books . good work boss. Ammar (^Talk - ^{Don't Talk}) 15:45, 21 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

OK Man, I will barnes noble it.--Skatewalk 21:18, 21 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

RE

Thank you for your note, and my best wishes for the day, :-) Havelock the Dane 00:09, 22 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Stop It

stop falsely claiming that I am vandalising the Gulf War page. If you would look at the talk page there is a discussion section I started back in JUNE listing how impractical it is to list all the commanders from all 30+ coalition countries, and that listing only the overall commander is much more practical. The continued posting of a vandalism warning, when none is warranted, is itself vandalism. I have reverted your post on my talk page as such. Batman2005 01:21, 22 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I have read the sources and researched the topic extensively. Not to mention I was there. Norman Schwarskopf was in charge of the Coalition. There was no "co-commander" In the command matrix there was Schwarzkopf, then below and subordinate to him were the leaders of the other coalition countries. There is absolutely no debating this point. Khalid was no more a co-commander than the commander of the French or British forces in the war. Every history book in the entire world agrees that Schwarzkopf was the commander of the UN Coalition in the Gulf. It's not americanized, it's fact. You're pushing your pro-Saudi viewpoint by only listing Khalid and not the 30+ others. We can't list them all...we we need not list any except for the supreme commander of the coalition. I'm sorry he happened to be American, but that's the way it is. Batman2005 08:12, 22 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Lets just continue this on the article discussion page so that all the discussion is in one place. Batman2005 08:27, 22 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Arabian Peninsula

I fixed the ISBN for resources, Elias reverted some early work (saying that it is unsourced!). I will watch this article can keep it on your watch list? --Skatewalk 20:36, 22 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Arab Wiki Project

It's way overdue, are you interested? Please vote here [4] if you are. Thanks. --Maha Odeh 07:51, 23 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Arab Wiki Project

Hi Ammar, We have an Arab wiki project that is currently working on improving the article (Arab), it would be great if you can join us (you dont have to be Arab or Pan Arabist, aslong as you know about the subject we need you)

[Arab_Wiki_Project]--Skatewalk 23:07, 23 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

al-Yamamah

Hello Ammar. Is there a way to resolve the dispute over the title of Al Yamamah? Thanks. Slacker 21:07, 31 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Anti Arab hate speech in the Arab article!

Please read!--Skatewalk 03:00, 1 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Image source problem with Image:Al-ahli logo.JPG

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Improving the Egyptian article

I added it to the Arab world project, it needs to be fixed so we can clearly mention the non Arab minority in Egypt (the Copts) and the Arabized and Ethnic Arab muslims. The article is a mess now, plenty of Afrocentric and Anti-Arab trolling.--Skatewalk 04:17, 8 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Egyptian Arabic

Egyptian Arabic (Maṣrī مصري) is an Arabic dialect.

The only language to branch out of Arabic is Maltese. Can you please help me organize these articles?.

Arabic dialect has to be clearly added in the infobox an openning sentence so it dont get confused as a language!--Skatewalk 03:06, 10 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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req(2)

{{unblock-auto|1=87.101.244.7|2={{blocked proxy}}|3=Zzuuzz}}

I can't unblock under these circumstances. Please see [5] for ways to address this problem so you can continue editing.--chaser - t 08:25, 3 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

req(3)

{unblock-auto|1=87.101.244.6|2={{blocked proxy}}|3=Krimpet}

This is so strange.

A M M A R

11:15, 3 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Unblock declined, see above. Sandstein 11:47, 3 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

وعليكم السلام

قصدت انها اقليم وليست منطقة ادارية

شكرا للتنبية —Preceding unsigned comment added by Omardhs (talk • contribs) 18:36, 7 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

hello

hello.. ramadan kareem i tried to do someting good for this encyclopedia, thank you for your cooperations.. Drh104

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Agree

happy eid... although i don't have enough time but i agree.. thank you... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Drh104 (talk • contribs) 06:18, 14 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject Saudi Arabia

dear Ammar Shaker.. As Salam Alaikum.. How could i add an article to Quality Scale or Sub-Classed their? how has the Authority to do it? me? any body? or Who? my new article is about Hafar Al-Batin... thank you Drh104 20:15, 14 October 2007 (UTC)Drh104[reply]

regarding Qaisumah-Qaysumah

Thank you for your hard work. but, the official and the correct name of Qaisumah-Qaysumah is Qaisumah. i tried to make the right. thank you again Drh104 23:30, 15 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hafar Al-Batin vs Hafr Al-Batin

Hi again..listen, i was born in this city, i live now in Riyadh. The correct name is Hafar Al-Batin. the article in Hafr Al-Batin has been merged several times from other spellings done by non-Saudis. You can find many many spellings for Hafar Al-Batin like hafr, hafer, Al-Baten, Albatin, Albaten, but the correct is Hafar Al-Batin as listed in many big sites see google maps. thanks Drh104 10:11, 16 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you.. the aim is to make the right, the rightest.. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Drh104 (talk • contribs) 21:06, 17 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

How about correcting the spelling of Saudi Cities Template

There are many cities listed in the following template List of main Saudi Arabian cities need to be changed to the english name.. e.g: Ad Dammam to Dammam, Al Hufuf to Hofuf, Al Jubayl to Jubail, At Taif to Taif...etc Drh104 21:39, 17 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

Thanks! For taking care of your signature which now has no load on the servers now. --Matt57 ^{(talk•contribs)} 04:48, 24 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Newbie

Well well, So what exactly are u guys up to? This looks pretty interesting. I think i took a wrong turn here but hey, women can't really drive, so no faults in getting lost online too, right? Guess I'm done here, too much muscle minds here, gotta go surf something feminine now... Keep up the good work u geniuses! Miss Illa —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.194.169.196 (talk) 21:44, 4 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Good day Miss Illa :) try to Register for a username so your contributions will be known for public :) what we guys up to ? if you mean we "Saudis" , then u'd find out in our Project , so take a quick look if you've got some minutes :)

Also , You need to sign (digi signiture) after each comment u write , by typing ~~~~ After your message . Aright Illa ? A M M A R 22:19, 4 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

King Fahd's Fountain

you intial version appears to be a dirrect copy and paste of this.Geni 18:55, 11 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

News article was created on 10 September 2005 you coppied it on 15 October 2006.Geni 22:51, 11 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Did you do it with any other articles?Geni 22:58, 11 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No , Actully some newbie user wrote my initial revision of King Fahd's Fountain onto the article Jeddah , while i was cleaning up that mess i moved all this text into a new article. So i still think im not really guilty. You can review the old revisions of Jeddah A M M A R 23:02, 11 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Not a problem then everyone makes mistakes.Geni 18:41, 12 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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المملكه العربية السعودية

سلام أخي ، المملكه العربية السعودية وكان لطيفا للغاية الزياده في كل منها ثلاثة معالم مجموع مؤشر التنمية البشريه تتألف. متوسط العمر المتوقع مؤشر = 0،787 ، التعليم مؤشر = 0،806 ، مؤشر الناتج المحلي الاجمالي = 0،844. ان المملكه العربية السعودية قد سجلت اعلى معدل للنمو من جميع بلدان هذه السنة ، من 0،777 في 2004 إلى 0،812 في هذا العام. Muzammil01 14:02, 2 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yes

salaam alaikum, yes I'm very interested in saudi Arabia, and I was born there, also what saudi arabia articles can I edit apart from saudi arabia alone. Jazak Allah. Muzammil01 08:24, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

OK

Ok InshaAllah I will Participate in the Saudi Arabian-related articles, you can leave some jobs for me to do, mainly economy things or population facts to do with Saudi Arabia.

Thank You

طيب ، اود ان الحب الى المشاركة في المملكه العربية السعودية من المواد ذات الصلة ، يمكنك ترك بعض وظائف للمني أن أفعل ، وبصورة رئيسية في الاقتصاد الاشياء او الوقائع السكانيه على القيام مع المملكه العربية السعودية.

Muzammil01 (talk) 18:29, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Riyadh and Jeddah

I've had a look at the articles of Riyadh and Jeddah, they both need cleaning up, especially Riyadh. I will help out any time you want, give me a task to do or let me just edit and improve the articles of Saudi Arabia. Insha Allah I will try my best.

Muzammil01 (talk) 18:40, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

OK

Ok Riyadh needs a boost, it doesn't have much information and images are too plain, we need to show the sights of Beautiful Riyadh city. We'll plan it later.

Muzammil01 (talk) 08:29, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/United Nations Parliamentary Assembly

Hello, I have created an article about the UN Parliamentary Assembly, a proposed world body that would be similar to Europarl. Please review and vote on the WP:FAC nomination. Thanks, Sarsaparilla (talk) 01:26, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ok

Ok, I've just realized that Jeddah is a good article, but what really needs cleaning up is Riyadh, we need to work on it. Why is there a footnote saying Riyadhs HDI is 0.843, The UN doesn't measure HDI for any cities in Saudi Arabia. Secondly It wouldn't be 0.843, it would be around 0.9 to be honest, because it has the best standard of living in Saudi, the best education and probably the highest life expectancy in Saudi too. It's per capita income is thought to be around $30,000 or more. I do actually have a HDI calculator, you can download it from the site.

The average GDP per capita income for Saudi is around $15,000-$16,000 The average life expectancy for Saudi is 74.3 (Estimate on the Saudi Website) 75.9 est on the world factbook. The literacy rate is 83% (UN) Gross enrolement is 76% Which makes the average HDI for Saudi Arabia 0.812.

If you can find me this information for Riyadh or Jeddah, I would be able to calculate it's HDI.

Thanks a lot.

Muzammil01 (talk) 17:45, 16 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Jeddah

Since the Jeddah article is much further developed than the one for Riyadh, why don't we focus on Jeddah first and try to make it a GA? I've just skimmed over it and I think it's a doable task. -- Slacker (talk) 22:18, 16 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Let's just follow the critique on the Talk page. For one thing, we can try fleshing out the lists, bullets, and sub-sections and turning them into prose. We can add stuff about the city government too (branch municipalities, municipal assembly, etc.). The critique seemed satisfied with the History section, so we can leave that aside for the time being. -- Slacker (talk) 22:31, 16 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Season's Greetings

May this season bring you success, good times and happiness. Looking forward to working with you in the future.
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Map

Remember the map for the Egyptian campaign in Najd? What happened to it? Did it get deleted? -- Slacker (talk) 13:22, 26 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I was thinking of fixing it because it has some mistakes (it confuses the locations of Riyadh and Diriyyah, for example). It could be useful for the Ottoman-Saudi War article too. -- 16:06, 27 December 2007 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Slackerlawstudent (talk • contribs)

By the way, where did you get the map? Was it from Al-Mokatel? And what license did you use? Thanks. -- Slacker (talk) 17:05, 28 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Saudi Arabia Project Template

Hi! I think there is a problem with one of the Saudi templates. I think you can help me because you have the template barnstar. The problem: One of them adds the talk pages of articles to Category:Saudi Arabia stubs. This is a problem because some articles are in that category twice. It is also a problem because sometimes only the talk page is in the category. I can't find which template is causing this. Can you help me find the template and the template's page? Aelfthrytha (talk) 07:36, 5 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Weird. It is fixed now - none of them are in the category. I did mention it to someone else, so perhaps he fixed it. Thanks anyway! Aelfthrytha (talk) 17:10, 5 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

[1] Philip Khuri Hitti (2002), History of the Arabs, Revised: 10th Edition

[2] ttp://www.wsu.edu/~dee/MESO/AKKAD.HTM Washington State University; Akkadians Study

[3] ttp://concise.britannica.com/ebc/article-9007224/Amorites The Amorites migration from Arabia

[4] ttp://www.britannica.com/eb/article-9007224/Amorite The Amorites origin - Britannica

[5] Bernard Lewis (2002), The Arabs in History, Oxford University Press, USA; 6New Ed edition, page 17 ISBN 019280317

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