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April to October 2009

You might be interested in the naming discussion here. Cheers, Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 15:18, 26 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

If you have a moment

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Angus, Could you pass your eye over Morcar (died 1015) as I see you did a lot of work on Ealdgyth (floruit 1015–1016). I want to check the refs and facts are as good as they can be. The article is based mainly on DofP's and User:Ealdgyth's work to date and a bit of my own browsing. Victuallers (talk) 09:59, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Looks great! Unfortunately, I do not have Ann Williams' book to hand to check for any other snippets. But I am jealous. I should learn how to make maps like that. Cavila has another nice one in Ælfgifu, wife of Eadwig. So I think I should start with Wulfric Spot. Many thanks and all the best, Angus McLellan (Talk) 10:49, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi

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Hi Angus. Thank you for your message. Glad you like the article. Phg (talk) 19:12, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Tam Dalyell

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I don't understand what you mean by saying Dalyells part of the expenses scandal that is a very big deal right now, and pertinent to the politics of these days, is not 'wikinews'. I hope you won't keep deleting this part of the article which several editors have already thought worthy of inclusion in the article Sayerslle (talk) 18:57, 16 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It is news - you can tell that from the fact that it's in the papers right now - and this is an encyclopedia. So far as most MPs are concerned - obviously MacKay, Malik and Morley would be exceptions, and others may be added to the list - inclusion of this news material is hard to reconcile with Wikipedia:Neutral point of view's strictures concerning undue weight ("in proportion to the prominence of each"). How prominent is this in the great scheme of things? For Dalyell, as for many others, the answer would seem to be "not at all". Angus McLellan (Talk) 19:50, 16 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

L'Aube de la Gloire

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Hi Angus, I am planning to use as a reference a very interesting book of mine on the early history of the tank: L'Aube de la Gloire, Les Autos-Mitrailleuses et les Chars Français pendant la Grande Guerre by Alain Gougaud, 1987, Musée des Blindés, ISBN 2904255028. What do you think? Phg (talk) 19:30, 22 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It seems like a good choice to me. Saint-Martin's L'Arme blindée française has nothing on WWI in it. I have a copy of L'Emergence des armes nouvelles somewhere but I can't remember if that has a paper on tanks in it or not. I'll see if I can dig it out and check. All the best! Angus McLellan (Talk) 20:33, 22 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! Phg (talk) 20:36, 22 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Lacey's "Donegal kingdoms" book

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Hi Angus! Yes, the weather is brilliant. Suncream retailers must thing all their birthdays came at once!

I read Lacy's book when it came out and while I remain impressed with it, I have serious reservations about his treatment of the true members of the Uí Néill . He did not cite the 2006 XY-DNA Chrosome research which proved that most, if not all, of the punative Uí Néill do indeed descend from a common fifth-century ancestor (see Moore, Laoise T., Brian McEvoy, Eleanor Cape, Katharine Simms and Daniel G. Bradley, "A Y-Chromosome Signature of Hegemony in Gaelic Ireland." The American Journal of Human Genetics 78 (February 2006): 334-8.). But no, I have not seen any reviews. I'll look out for them.

I'm usually too busy these days to devote as much time as I would like to wiki, but I squeeze in what I can. Any thoughts on my recent work? What other stuff are you on at present? Thanks for saying hi! Fergananim (talk) 13:07, 2 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed amendment to Ireland article names case

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Hello, Angusmclellan. For your information, an amendment has been proposed to the Ireland article names arbitration case. As you were a named party in that dispute, you may wish to voice your opinions on this request at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Amendment#Request to amend prior case: Ireland article names. If you have any questions, please contact myself, another clerk, or an arbitrator. Thank you. For the Committee, Hersfold (t/a/c) 14:49, 4 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You are reviewing this GA nom right? :) Wizardman 02:52, 8 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I am. I've read it, multiple times. All I need is a couple of hours to turn my thoughts into a review. Hopefully this weekend... Angus McLellan (Talk) 19:04, 11 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Fenland Survey

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Hi there. I was browsing through the Requested Articles page and was considering filling the request for an article on the Fenland Survey (in fact, I think the article should be Fenland Project, as the survey was just a part of that). Anyway, I noticed that the article Fenland Survey had previously been deleted by you last July as being incomprehensible (G10) or patent nonsense (G1). The survey and project are very real, so I don't believe there should be any problem with me recreating the article (with references, etc.), but I was wondering if you would be so kind as to give me a peek at the previous article. I'm sure you deleted with good reason, but there may be a useful name or term that might help with my research. Matt Deres (talk) 23:43, 16 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Okay. Cool. Matt Deres (talk) 02:24, 18 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Poll on Ireland (xxx)

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A poll is up at Wikipedia:WikiProject_Ireland_Collaboration/Poll on Ireland (xxx). This is a vote on what option or options could be added in the poll regarding the naming of the Ireland and Republic of Ireland and possibly the Ireland (disambiguation) pages. The order that the choices appear in the list has been generated randomly. Sanctions for canvassing, forum shopping, ballot stuffing, sock puppetry, meat puppetry will consist of a one-month ban, which will preclude the sanctioned from participating in the main poll which will take place after this one. Voting will end at 21:00 (UTC) of the evening of 1 July 2009 (that is 22:00 IST and BST). -- Evertype· 18:15, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Angus

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I need some advice. I am adding several stubs and articles to Category:People from County Galway. However, not all of them become listed alphabeticly, so I'd like to correct this (i.e., Burke under B, Collins under C ..). Any suggestions? Cheers, Fergananim (talk) 01:52, 13 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Poll on Ireland article names

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Thought you'd be interested.--Scott Mac (Doc) 10:29, 18 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Lovely! I signed up for the NTS last month when I was at Pollok House - my mother had never been at the Burrell and didn't fancy driving through Glasgow, so I took her and we had a look round both of them. I'd better rush off and visit the mill before they sell it off... Hope you're well, Angus McLellan (Talk) 17:08, 18 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yoo-hoo

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Hi Angus. Been doing a lot of work lately on articles closer to home (County Galway). I'm concentrating on bolstering the list of people from the county, especially the O's and Mac's of the medieval era. On a whim, I made a check of the top three counties, population wise, to see how many articles on medieval era Gaelic people. The results are:

Dublin: 1, 127 - 9

Cork: 822 - 4

Galway: 556 - 69 (mainly due to me)

Those hotbeds of Gaelic Ireland didn't far much better.

Donegal: 188 - 10

Tyrone: 116 - 8

And I noticed that a good dozen of those from Cork to Tyrone were by yours truly ....

I'm not too sure what this says, or does not say, apart from the fact that I have way too much spare time on my hands. A brief look at the rest of Ireland confirms to me that O's and Mac's of Gaelic Ireland are in really short supply.

Something else that I observed was the the majority of bios were of people who lived in the last two hundred years. Go back before that in most counties and the list dies out. Search for people from the medieval era and ...

Anyway. For the moment I'm concentrating on the above, fleshing out the more obscure (indeed, unknown!) fellow Galwegians of times past. I wonder who listens? Fergananim (talk) 07:17, 31 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Egbert vs. Ecgberht

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There's a debate about spelling of the name of the Anglo-Saxon king Egbert at Template_talk:Mercian_monarchs that I would like to get your input on: should it be "Egbert" or "Ecgberht" in the template? And if you know of a better place to post a note about this than WP:MA, I'd be interested. Mike Christie (talk) 12:47, 1 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I've edited this article quite heavily over the last few days, hopefully improving it somewhat. It would probably benefit from a fresh pair of eyes looking at it. Fancy giving it a run through? Catfish Jim and the soapdish (talk) 11:12, 3 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Angus, in case you're feeling restless not knowing what to do with all that spare time on your hands, I think you may be interested in recent work on this article and the discussion that goes with it, so feel free to drop a note there. Cavila (talk) 19:05, 3 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Angus, it's been a while since last I nagged you about obscure norse-gaels and the like, hope all is well with you. I stumbled across the Norwegian version of Wimund, which is basically a translation of this version here - completely relying on William of Newburgh and taking everything at face value. As I don't have access to the papersources that are references for the more balanced account given in the current version, and don't feel very comfortable just translating stuff with sources I haven't read (though that is rather common practise I'm afraid) - would you know of any online accessible sources that could at least verify that Williams account of this story likely isn't very neutral. Best regards, Finn Rindahl (talk) 23:57, 18 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Speaking of books, Woolf and Maund should give me some overview of Scotland and Wales, and then I have Downham for the overall "Norse-connection". But I'd also like something similar for Ireland, I have been waiting for the 2nd ed. of "Ireland before the Normans" but now Four Courts inform me that it has been postphoned - again. "Early Medieval Ireland, Ad 400-Ad 1200 " by Daibhm O Croinin looks promising, but as it isn't that cheap I thought to ask some advice before ordering. My main interest would be 800 - 1200, I'm looking for something that's readable for an amateur like myself but still has proper references, and combines overview with some depth (like Downham), and of course, good and cheap would be ideal ;) Any thoughts? Finn Rindahl (talk) 14:10, 7 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Well, Amazon UK sell the paperback edition of volume 1 of the RIA New History of Ireland, edited by O Croinin, for only GBP 2 more than they sell his Early Medieval Ireland, and probably not so much more (GBP 5 maybe based on past experience) than they'll want for the 2nd edn of Ireland before the Normans. Which would I buy first if I had to buy them all again?
Ní annsae: I'd start with the RIA history. It is a huge book and has more coverage of 800-1200 than O Croinin's earlier book. It has good articles by O Corrain on Ireland c.800, by Byrne and Flanagan on post-Viking politics, on the post-Viking church, on archaeology, and on language and literature. O Croinin's own article on 400-800 politics covers most of the ground that his earlier book did, with Nancy Edwards doing a lot more on archaeology than O Croinin did. O Corrain's Ireland before the Normans is quite dense, but it really doesn't go into the same level of background detail as either of the books with O Croinin's name on them. I haven't read any other books that cover the Viking Age in Ireland except for general stuff like the Oxford Illustrated History of the Vikings.
Courtesy of the Deacon, I have almost all of the Viking Age Oxford DNB articles on Irish kings if you'd like copies of those. Angus McLellan (Talk) 14:58, 7 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks Angus, RIA it is. The table of content from Amazon "look inside" seem promising indeed, and getting some 1000 pages from acknowledged scholars for less than £30 (well, a bit more with postage I assume) is what I would call a bargain, especially with the current exchangerate. Just ordered it through my local bookshop :) Best regards, Finn Rindahl (talk) 15:56, 7 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Clare family

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Yes, I completely agree with the points you've just made. One doesn't want to 'bite the newcomers,' but at the same time it's important they understand the way wikipedia works. Thanks and regards, MarmadukePercy (talk) 22:50, 15 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Kingdom of Galicia

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Thanks for your contribution in the discussion about Kingdom of Galicia, now I prefer to be out of the discussion, I wasted a lot of time translating, and I prefer don´t waste more. I write you because I´m not a historian, one just contributor more, I saw you can read French, and I´d like that you read the French article about Kingdom of Galicia ([1]), I think it´s partial but I´d prefer another opinion anyway. Thanks so much.--Nuninho Martins (talk) 21:59, 19 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Whoops-a-daisy

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Sorry Angus. I was just glancing at your edit and clicked "rollback" by mistake. No slight intended! --Mais oui! (talk) 13:39, 21 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

image on Trichy Sankaran wiki entry

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Hi,

I'm a wiki newb, so i need some help here.

Someone has changed the picture (that I believe you originally posted) of Trichy Sankaran receiving his doctorate to a picture of a US soldier.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trichy_Sankaran#Awards

on the image page, it shows the user who posted this, and 2 entries down, the correct image, that it looks like you posted.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Doc.jpg

Prof. Sankaran spotted this, and has asked that it be changed. Needless to say, the US soldier has nothing to do with Prof Sankaran's doctorate...

The picture is from his collection, and he's allowing it to be used.

thanks, Ed —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.188.88.13 (talk) 17:33, 22 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I've reverted back to the version with Dr. Sankaran - you may need to clear your browser cache for the image to display correctly. To avvoid that this happens again the image should be moved to a better name (and doc.jpg locked - leaving that bit to Angus). Regards, Finn Rindahl (talk) 17:51, 22 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! When I get a minute I'll re-upload the picture with a new name and lock the bad name. Angus McLellan (Talk) 18:46, 22 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Towns and baronies

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Hi Aengus,

I likewise hope all is well and fantastic with yourself. Best of luck with the house - don't skimp on it!

Bhreathnach and MacCotter's books are on my shelves, and I have made some use of both (see 'Recent Theories' in Airgíalla; and Muintir Murchada, Máenmaige, Clann Taidg and others). I especially like MacCottor for explaining all these divisions.

Sadly I know of next to nothing essential on the internet useful for land divisions. This one - http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlkik/ihm/index.htm - is the best I have come accross. To be honest, I've been very disappointed with such illustrations (lack of) in such books over the years. This is why I've spent so much time researching topographics for my own books. Hang on, volume 9 of 'A New History of Ireland' has some good maps, mainly for baronies, I think. They still are'nt great, but will do for the moment.

Frankly the best regional maps I have seen in recent years have been of Middle-earth! Fergananim (talk) 11:50, 23 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

supposedly left the building

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Hello, almost two years ago, it was made your moral responsibility to keep an eye on him. In the mean time, I have asked about a possible déja vu which I have again right now. -- Matthead  Discuß   22:39, 25 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It seems that my unblock of RG remained entirely hypothetical. So far as I can tell I never did unblock him because he didn't ask, never mind convincing me that it would have been a good idea. All the same, since I remember RG all too well I'll have a look and see how this scores on the ententestmessgerät. What happened about whatever it was you asked Jehochman about that was going on at Commons? Angus McLellan (Talk) 23:07, 25 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Not much, except some of the same old. At commons, some file deletions, deletion requests, some discussions and a break for what seems to be somebody's foot wear. Right here, a comeback after some months a revert incl. a re-move that ignores the sources. Kind of hit and run, or duck and cover.-- Matthead  Discuß   00:03, 26 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
If he's causing trouble, you should file a sock puppet report with sample diffs as evidence. If the user returned quietly and is not causing problems, we can ignore the matter. What we need to follow up is some sort of evidence of disruption, event minor disruption. Jehochman Talk 01:43, 26 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Does Wikipedia:Wikiquette_alerts#User:HP1740-B qualify as "causing trouble"? It reminds of RG's old habits. -- Matthead  Discuß   22:06, 20 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks RE orphan images

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Thanks for your help. It does make it difficult when trying to work through a large amount of record covers if I get a CSD notification every time I upload an image. Markfury3000 (talk) 00:34, 26 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Kingdom of Galicia (again)

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Hi Angus, I write you again for the same subject, the Kingdom of Galicia. Have you read this article in the French Wiki?, I've checked a lot of data and I believe it can be very interesting to you, if you enjoy Medieval history. I read your opinion on the discussion page KG (Kingdom of Galicia) and I really think there has been a high Historical Revisionism in Spain during the last decade, about the history of KG. I think the Kingdom of Galicia is the historical name of the kingdom which is modernly known as Asturias and Leon after. Please, if you have time, check the information in the French article ([2]).Thanks for your attention.--Nuninho Martins (talk) 23:00, 26 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

L'Alliance Impie

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Hi Angus. I am planning to use this book about the relations between Francis I and Suleyman the Magnificient: L'Alliance Impie by Edith Garnier, Editions du Felin, 2008, Paris ISBN 9782866456788. What do you think? Cheers PHG Per Honor et Gloria 21:11, 29 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Seems like a great choice. Did you see that there's a review with Garnier on Neopodia: part one here? Angus McLellan (Talk) 21:49, 29 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Fabulous link! Thanks! PHG Per Honor et Gloria 21:52, 29 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]