User talk:Citation bot/Archive 39
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archive-link should be replaced with archive-url, not archive-date
Treat deadlink= the same as deadurl= (to convert to url-status=)
- What should happen
- [3]
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- Feedback from maintainers
audible.com
- Status
- {{fixed}}
- Reported by
- Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 17:30, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
- What happens
- So citation bot is changing audible listings to cite book.
- What should happen
- Cite web should be used.
- Relevant diffs/links
- [4]
- Replication instructions
- Add a source to audible.
- We can't proceed until
- Feedback from maintainers
Replace Cite Web with Cite Journal
- Status
- {{fixed}} several different ways to catch this and others
- Reported by
- —Carter (Tcr25) (talk) 13:30, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
- What happens
- changed Cite Web to Cite Journal
- What should happen
- should have left as web or possibly changed to Cite Archive
- Relevant diffs/links
- https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Stained_glass_windows_by_Harry_Clarke&diff=1223741434&oldid=1223665575
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- Feedback from maintainers
Not sure if Citation bot assumed that a the presence of a doi meant it was a journal, but the ref was pointing to a piece in the Trinity College Library archives collection. Attributed authors were picked up and added in ways that created CS1 errors. —Carter (Tcr25) (talk) 13:30, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
Don't add title=MSN
- What happens
- [5]
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- Feedback from maintainers
It appears that Citation Bot has a blacklist for generic titles. "MSN" is a common generic title that I see Citation Bot add, so it should be added to that blacklist. (I know the diff I linked is old, but I've seen this happen recently.):Jay8g [V•T•E] 00:31, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
AS Racine FC
Hi bot.can you help correct a typo on the AS racine fc page you just edited?
The page title "AS Racine FC" is wrong. The correct title is "AS Racines F.C".
Please correct it. RoaringEdits (talk) 14:18, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
- This has nothing to do with Citation Bot. Try Help:Desk. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 14:25, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
Unlinking journal parameter
Hello,
According to the documentation at Template:Cite journal:
- work (required by {{cite journal}} and {{cite magazine}}): Name of the work containing the source; may be wikilinked if relevant.
However, it seems citation bot unlinks the journal= parameter (by default?). Is this intentional? Should the documentation be updated if wikilinking journals is discouraged? Or should citation bot be updated to honor an existing wikilink, if any? (Example diff. There's some other questionable changes in there but that's probably from bad input data and harder to deal with.). SnowFire (talk) 21:16, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- Caused by the (JTS) being present for no reason. The bot expects
|journal=[[Foo|Everything]]
, not|journal=[[Foo|Something]], something else
. 21:29, 22 April 2024 (UTC) Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 21:29, 22 April 2024 (UTC)- If this is intentional, then I feel like the documentation should be updated that this field needs to have only a single link. I don't really see the problem with the other approach, but I respect that maybe it's needed for bots / microformats rather than humans. (I saw quite a number of short references to "JTS" hence putting the acronym gloss in there, so it's not like a totally irrelevant piece of information to have somewhere.) SnowFire (talk) 21:46, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
date/year are the same
- What should happen
- [6]
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- Feedback from maintainers
Won't run on categories with only one item
- What happens
- Webpage reports
!Category appears to be empty
- Replication instructions
- Run the bot on any category with only one item. This happens both with the direct link on CS1 error/maint categories and with the category input on the Toolforge page.
- We can't proceed until
- Feedback from maintainers
Category-link formatting in bot's edit summaries is broken
- Status
- {{fixed}}
- Reported by
- Whoop whoop pull up Bitching Betty ⚧️ Averted crashes 15:21, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
- What happens
- When the bot makes an edit from a category run, the category link in the edit summary is missing one of the two closing brackets necessary to actually activate the link: [[Category:NAME].
- What should happen
- The category link should be properly formatted as a link, with two opening and two closing brackets: [[Category:NAME]].
- Relevant diffs/links
- https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Planking_(fad)&diff=prev&oldid=1224637690
- Replication instructions
- Run the bot on a category; any edits made during that run will show this bug.
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- Feedback from maintainers
TNT Title if "Request Rejected"
- What should happen
- [7]
- We can't proceed until
- Feedback from maintainers
Introduces ref error when citing Penguin publisher website
- What happens
- Introduces ref error by turning
{{cite web}}
to{{cite book}}
ostensibly when url=https://www.penguin.co.uk/books/295/295446/bullshit-jobs/9780141983479.html. - What should happen
- Citation bot should take no action. Instead of interpreting that link as referencing a book, citation bot should not assume. In this case, the publisher's webpage itself is being cited as a primary source, so a book it not being cited.
- Relevant diffs/links
- [8]
- We can't proceed until
- Feedback from maintainers
- This is the solution. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 08:12, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
- Pretty grateful we get to go through every citation to a publisher's blurb or library catalogue record and add a hidden html comment so Citation bot can continue assuming we're all ding-dongs who don't know the difference between a book and a website.Having
saidsassed that, I'm not sure what percentage of us are ding-dongs who don't know the difference between a book and a website, and I'm of the opinion that the true solution is probably neither manually adding tens of thousands of hidden html comments nor endlessly tweaking exceptions into Citation bot's code, but mapping|website=
to|via=
instead of|periodical=
in the context of {{Cite book}}, or rolling back the deprecation of the|periodical=
aliases from {{Cite book}}, or having Citation bot output {{Cite conference}} or {{Citation}} to support more parameters. Folly Mox (talk) 09:32, 22 May 2024 (UTC)- The vast, vast, vast majority are ding dongs, where a link to the publisher website is meant to be a link to the book (much like links to Amazon are meant to simply reference the book, not the Amazon listing). There are exceptions of course, but those are the minority, and citing a publisher's website directly is often a failure of WP:IRS (for example here, you really should be citing Financial Times, New Statesman, and City AM directly, rather than the publisher of the book). Adding a comment is a very simple way to prevents bots from fucking up on the minority of cases where such a citation is intentional. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 09:40, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
- I believe you, and I think I argued a similar point to your position when someone brought the same concern to this talkpage last year. I think I might just be grumpy this morning. Folly Mox (talk) 09:59, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Headbomb, does the bot match this exact text or can I add to it? I would prefer the comment to mention that this comment is specifically for Citation bot, as otherwise I see hidden comments often removed from wikitext in mainspace. czar 14:19, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
- It only cares that there's a comment. See User:Citation_bot/use#..._the_bot_made_a_mistake?, specific parameter vs entire citation. Headbomb (alt) (talk) 14:59, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Headbomb, does the bot match this exact text or can I add to it? I would prefer the comment to mention that this comment is specifically for Citation bot, as otherwise I see hidden comments often removed from wikitext in mainspace. czar 14:19, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
- I believe you, and I think I argued a similar point to your position when someone brought the same concern to this talkpage last year. I think I might just be grumpy this morning. Folly Mox (talk) 09:59, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
- The vast, vast, vast majority are ding dongs, where a link to the publisher website is meant to be a link to the book (much like links to Amazon are meant to simply reference the book, not the Amazon listing). There are exceptions of course, but those are the minority, and citing a publisher's website directly is often a failure of WP:IRS (for example here, you really should be citing Financial Times, New Statesman, and City AM directly, rather than the publisher of the book). Adding a comment is a very simple way to prevents bots from fucking up on the minority of cases where such a citation is intentional. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 09:40, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
- Pretty grateful we get to go through every citation to a publisher's blurb or library catalogue record and add a hidden html comment so Citation bot can continue assuming we're all ding-dongs who don't know the difference between a book and a website.Having
Past and Present volume and issue numbers
- What happens
- For journal Past and Present, in {{cite journal}} given
|volume=26
and|issue=26
, bot omits|volume=
and keeps|issue=
- What should happen
- It should keep
|volume=
preferentially to|issue=
when the two are identical - Relevant diffs/links
- * https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pliny_the_Younger&diff=prev&oldid=1223755369
- We can't proceed until
- Feedback from maintainers
Past and Present only has issue numbers. There is no volume number. That's erroneous metadata. See [9]. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 23:10, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
- They call them "volumes" and yet have "number" on the front of the magazines themselves. Oh yeah, and each one is "issue 1". AManWithNoPlan (talk) 14:47, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
Don't convert URLs to all lowercase
- What happens
- [10]
- Replication instructions
- This doesn't happen often and I'm not sure what causes it, but in this case it broke the link.
- We can't proceed until
- Feedback from maintainers
URLs are case insensitive (URL : "Although schemes are case-insensitive, the canonical form is lowercase and documents that specify schemes must do so with lowercase letters."), if something broke, it's not because of the casing. Headbomb (alt) (talk) 17:08, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
- Edit, I tried manually setting the casing and... well that website is some kind of special nutjob case because it IS case sensitive. I've never seen that before, ever. Headbomb (alt) (talk) 17:20, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Headbomb (alt): You're misreading your source for that, I'm afraid. URLs are case sensitive.
- 'scheme' refers to the protocol element before the :// , e.g. http, https, ftps. That is case insensitive; hostnames generally are too (because DNS is); other parts of the URL are not.
- Check these out: https://yorril.uk/test https://yorril.uk/Test https://yorril.uk/TEST. This is perfectly normal web server behaviour (out-of-the-box Apache 2). Conventionally, these days, most people make their URLs fully lower case, but they don't have to. TSP (talk) 17:44, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
- The problem is that the parameter https://www.worldjewishcongress.org/en/legacy-of-jews-in-MENA/Iraq’s-First-Minister-of-Finance#:~:text is set to the value Iraq's%20First%20Minister%20of%20Finance%20%2D%20World%20Jewish%20Congress&text=Sassoon%20Heskel%20(1860–1932)%20was%20born%20into%20an%20established,the%20Middle%20East%2C%20and%20Asia. Which leads to some odd GIGO problems. If the the data was set to be a URL instead of done wrong, this would not occur. AManWithNoPlan (talk) 21:00, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
- Yes it has a URL but missing the
|url=
key name. These errors are not very common, but I've seen enough of them, they exist. Not sure how to check. Probably slicing the citation string along "|" and making sure each segment contains at least one "=". It's imperfect since URLs (like this one) often contain a "=". If it detects a URL "https?://" then temporarily mask it out before doing the "=" test. -- GreenC 21:57, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
- Yes it has a URL but missing the
- The problem is that the parameter https://www.worldjewishcongress.org/en/legacy-of-jews-in-MENA/Iraq’s-First-Minister-of-Finance#:~:text is set to the value Iraq's%20First%20Minister%20of%20Finance%20%2D%20World%20Jewish%20Congress&text=Sassoon%20Heskel%20(1860–1932)%20was%20born%20into%20an%20established,the%20Middle%20East%2C%20and%20Asia. Which leads to some odd GIGO problems. If the the data was set to be a URL instead of done wrong, this would not occur. AManWithNoPlan (talk) 21:00, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
Caps: ChemInform
- What should happen
- [11]
- We can't proceed until
- Feedback from maintainers
Change |date-accessed to |access-date (not |osti-access)
Journal = Progress of Optics
- What happens
- [14]
- We can't proceed until
- Feedback from maintainers
This is a series, and should not be added to the journal parameter of a cite book.
- True, but also the bot should not misspell it "Progess". —David Eppstein (talk) 05:02, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
Caps: Farmakologiia i Toksikologiia
- What should happen
- [15]
- We can't proceed until
- Feedback from maintainers
Like all other lone I in the middle of a journal name (save for Part I / Section I), should be lowercase. Reporting every single one individually is annoying. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 17:53, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
Favor
Dear citation bot: I need a favor; please cite the sources of this articles: Diamonds Are Forever (film); Carlos Alberto Rentería Mantilla; Epiphone Casino and 1988 Writers Guild of America strike. Best wishes. 2800:484:D473:700:C502:BC5C:682A:6B88 (talk) 21:54, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
Misidentifications as journals of not-journals
- What happens
- Citation bot incorrectly changes template type to {{cite journal}}
- Relevant diffs/links
- Special:Diff/1223287352 (yesterday) misidentifies a media repository as an academic journal (fixed with {{cite av media}}).
- Special:Diff/1223479267 (today) misidentifies a government organ as an academic journal (fixed with {{cite web}}).
- Special:Diff/1223493893 (today) misidentifies a book as an academic journal, and narrowly avoids a template error since
|website=
was set in the existing citation (fixed with {{cite book}}). - Not sure what the common thread is, if any.
- We can't proceed until
- Feedback from maintainers
Past and Present issue=1
- What should happen
- [16]
- We can't proceed until
- Feedback from maintainers
See also [17] Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 10:22, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
- Huh I had a very different impression. Special:Diff/1223749410 popped up on my watchlist, and I looked into the change. According to doi.org/10.1093/pastj/gty034 we've got volume rather than issue for Past & Present. Folly Mox (talk) 10:53, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
- That's because the OUP metadata is wrong here. It's the 13th supplement, which happened to be in the same year as the 238th issue. See [18]. It should be cited as Past & Present (Suppl. 13). Nowhere in the actual issue is the 238th issue mentioned (or 238th volume). Headbomb (alt) (talk) 17:19, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
Better handling of page/pages with leading p.
- Status
- {{fixed}}
- Reported by
- Headbomb (alt) (talk) 17:14, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
Adding current date to old citations
- Status
- {{fixed}} - will no longer add dates that are within two weeks of today. Also add corydondemocrat.com to the list of websites with bad dates.
- Reported by
- :Jay8g [V•T•E] 00:26, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
- What happens
- [22]
- We can't proceed until
- Feedback from maintainers
I've seen Citation Bot periodically adding the current date to citations where it clearly does not belong. I'm guessing this is some issue with the metadata on the pages in question, but I wonder if there's some way to avoid it - one thing I can think of would be to prevent it from adding the current date (citations where that is actually valid could have the date added by a future bot run when it is no longer the current date), but maybe there's a better option.:Jay8g [V•T•E] 00:26, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
Bot unitalicizes titles of works (e.g. films) in |trans-title=
parameter
- Status
- {{fixed}} - trans-title now treated like title and not 'fixed'
- Reported by
- Centcom08 (talk) 20:36, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
- What happens
- Citation bot unitalicizes words that needs italicizing (e.g. films) in
|trans-title=
parameter of a {{Cite}} template, despite MOS:CONFORMTITLE. - Relevant diffs/links
- sample 1, sample 2
- We can't proceed until
- Feedback from maintainers
Past and Present when linked
- Status
- {{fixed}} -- found four places that the pipe was not taken into account.
- Reported by
- Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 20:50, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
- What should happen
- [23]
- We can't proceed until
- Feedback from maintainers
Bot removes specific details from |orig-date
parameter in the cite book template
- Status
- {{fixed}} orig-date will no longer be cleaned
- Reported by
- Gricharduk (talk) 02:55, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
- What happens
- The bot is removing specific details from the
|orig-date
parameter in the cite book template e.g.|orig-date=First published 1859
is replaced with|orig-date=1859
. - What should happen
- As per Wikipedia:Undated, the orig-date parameter requires specific details as well as a date/year e.g.
|orig-date=First published 1859
rather than|orig-date=1859
. - Relevant diffs/links
- Example diff from the Audrey Stuckes article (see the Fendrich 1994 reference)
- We can't proceed until
- Feedback from maintainers
Bot making up dates
- Status
- {{fixed}} - dates that are really new will now be rejected.
- Reported by
- DuncanHill (talk) 10:14, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
- What happens
- Bot is obsessed with saying everything was published on the 4 June 2024
- What should happen
- bot stops making shit up. It's bad enough that it goes around breaking sfn/harv refs, but that ity should add entirely false information as well is unforgiveable.
- Relevant diffs/links
- https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gupta%E2%80%93Hunnic_Wars&diff=prev&oldid=1227166526
- We can't proceed until
- Feedback from maintainers
Switch the damn thing off. Or fix the errors it introduced. Don't leave it to other poor saps to clean up its mess. DuncanHill (talk) 10:14, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
- This is reported somewhere else above, and is probably the result of sites with overeager structure putting the current date in the meta elements of the html header. I think the solution to this one is to code Citation bot to check the date it scrapes against the current date, and if it's within 24 hours, don't add it. This will stop it from adding dates to breaking news sources about new developments, which is a fine tradeoff.Another potential solution would be to disable for most users the ability to run Citation bot against an entire category in a way that they aren't forced to review each resulting change manually. Most editors who use this functionality never double check to see if their script run has introduced any errors.Citation bot does a lot of really good work, but it does a lot of work: last I estimated, an average of around two hundred edits an hour, way too fast to clean up after without the help of the people who run it all the time. Folly Mox (talk) 10:24, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
- Specifically, these dates: [24] Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 19:41, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
- Another one added to a Good Article after this report was placed: Special:Diff/1227284405, adding today's date to a book published in 2006 (not formatted as a web link), and incidentally masking a bad anonymous IP edit with a bot edit on top of it. It is definitely not what was suggested above,
the result of sites with overeager structure putting the current date in the meta elements of the html header
, because there is no url and no html header that the bot could have taken this date from. I tend to agree with the original poster: if this is not going to be fixed quickly then the bot needs to be shut down. —David Eppstein (talk) 22:45, 4 June 2024 (UTC)- Also pinging User:Jay8g. Jay8g: please make sure that your bot runs aren't garbaging existing good citations. Ultimately when they do it becomes your responsibility. —David Eppstein (talk) 00:00, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
- Another one added to a Good Article after this report was placed: Special:Diff/1227284405, adding today's date to a book published in 2006 (not formatted as a web link), and incidentally masking a bad anonymous IP edit with a bot edit on top of it. It is definitely not what was suggested above,
- That's the exact same solution I suggested in #Adding current date to old citations above, which has been completely ignored. :Jay8g [V•T•E] 02:34, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
- Specifically, these dates: [24] Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 19:41, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
Caps: JSAE Review
- Status
- {{fixed}}
- Reported by
- Jonatan Svensson Glad (talk) 16:36, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
- What happens
|journal=Jsae Review
- What should happen
|journal=JSAE Review
- Relevant diffs/links
- https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Electronically_controlled_brake&diff=prev&oldid=1227419996
- We can't proceed until
- Feedback from maintainers
MovieCrow
- Status
- {{fixed}}
- Reported by
- Kailash29792 (talk) 06:51, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
- What happens
- website=www.moviecrow.com
- What should happen
- website=MovieCrow
- We can't proceed until
- Feedback from maintainers
I would not call this a bug, but the site's name is MovieCrow (find this capitalisation over here and their official Twitter X handle), yet adding the ref via WP:VE or WP:ProveIt renders www.moviecrow.com in the website field rather than MovieCrow, and no date. Could this be fixed when the citation bot is used, please? --Kailash29792 (talk) 06:51, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
Don't add |title= when there's already |script-title= and |trans-title=
- What happens
- [25]
- We can't proceed until
- Feedback from maintainers
I'm not sure if it ever makes sense to add |title= when |script-title= is already there, but it definitely doesn't seem to make sense when there's both |script-title= and |trans-title=.:Jay8g [V•T•E] 02:37, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- Noting in this case, the superfluous algorithmically added
|title=
isn't even correct: what Citation bot got its hands on there is|website=
. Folly Mox (talk) 22:13, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
Editing bot-built pages
Headbomb, it's pointless getting Citation bot to make edits like this and this because the next time that Legobot runs (one minute past the hour), it will ignore what Citation bot did and overwrite it with text copied from the page where the RfC is taking place. If the citation really needs to be amended, this should be done at the source - Talk:Colombia#rfc_CF0B8D1 and Talk:Emir Abdelkader#rfc_54680D6. Legobot will then copy the amended version to the RfC listings. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 19:57, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
- I believe both talk pages got their edits. I just triggered CB on those subpages so it would clear the DOI categories. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 20:44, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
- Those files are no blocked from editing by the bot. It will just skip them. {{fixed}} AManWithNoPlan (talk) 15:19, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
Caps: CEA Critic
- Status
- {{fixed}}
- Reported by
- Jonatan Svensson Glad (talk) 20:09, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
- What should happen
- https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Henry_James&diff=prev&oldid=1228166270
- We can't proceed until
- Feedback from maintainers
Add ISSN?
I was recently asked to add ISSNs to all journals at a FAC, and wondered why it isn't automatically added when hitting "expand citations" or when automatically filling up citations in the journal citation toolbar? FunkMonk (talk) 20:38, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
- Please see semi-relate discussion about ISSNs in journals on Help_talk:Citation_Style_1#Placement_of_ISSN_in_Citation_Style_1. Not exactly relevant, but the discussion may end up where we remove ISSNs instead... Jonatan Svensson Glad (talk) 20:51, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
- I don't know who asked you this, but I'd asked exactly the opposite. ISSNs are near-irrelevant, and pure clutter. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 22:39, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
- Yes. I would strongly object to automatically adding issns, and if I nominated an article for GA or FA I would strongly object to being told to add issns. If you have an identifier for the individual article, an identifier for the whole journal it appears in is useless clutter. These numbers may occasionally be useful for disambiguating similarly-named journals but they are usually not useful. —David Eppstein (talk) 20:04, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
- Agree with the above: I've used ISSN in limited cases (foreign language periodicals where we don't have an article about them and their published articles don't have DOIs), but adding them en masse is wasteful and bloaty. Folly Mox (talk) 22:17, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
- ISSN can be an amazing add for super obscure things, but almost always pointless clutter. AManWithNoPlan (talk) 15:08, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
- {{wontfix}} - flag to archive. AManWithNoPlan (talk) 13:23, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- ISSN can be an amazing add for super obscure things, but almost always pointless clutter. AManWithNoPlan (talk) 15:08, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
- Agree with the above: I've used ISSN in limited cases (foreign language periodicals where we don't have an article about them and their published articles don't have DOIs), but adding them en masse is wasteful and bloaty. Folly Mox (talk) 22:17, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
- Yes. I would strongly object to automatically adding issns, and if I nominated an article for GA or FA I would strongly object to being told to add issns. If you have an identifier for the individual article, an identifier for the whole journal it appears in is useless clutter. These numbers may occasionally be useful for disambiguating similarly-named journals but they are usually not useful. —David Eppstein (talk) 20:04, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
Bot converts new Google Books URLs to the old format
- Status
- {{wontfix}} right now, because new format is much less standard. Added to "to do" list above
- Reported by
- Paul_012 (talk) 09:02, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
- What happens
- As raised by Salpynx above under #New Google books URLs, the bot converts Google Books URLs under the new format (e.g. https://www.google.com/books/edition/Encyclopedia_of_Music_in_the_20th_Centur/m8W2AgAAQBAJ?gbpv=1&pg=PA379) to the old format, which is now called "classic Google Books" (https://books.google.com/books?id=m8W2AgAAQBAJ&pg=PA379).
- What should happen
- Since it appears that the old format may be in the process of being phased out, the bot should probably not make such conversions, and just tidy up the URLs under the new format instead.
- Relevant diffs/links
- Special:Diff/1210636446, Special:Diff/1213075921
- We can't proceed until
- Feedback from maintainers
Previous note:
This is more of a FYI / request for clarification than a bug report, although there might be a problem with these edits. Bot edit: Special:Diff/1210636446 changed a number of URLs I added manually using the recent new Google books URLs back to the "Classic" Google books version. Working with the new URL format was a bit of pain, especially getting a page number link to function, and I'm not even sure it is an improvement, but it looks like Google is trying to move to the new format? On all the old style links page I see a link to "try the new Google books". The new style URL looks like this: https://www.google.com/books/edition/Encyclopedia_of_Music_in_the_20th_Centur/m8W2AgAAQBAJ?gbpv=1&pg=PA379 , the Classic style the bot is converting to is: https://books.google.com/books?id=m8W2AgAAQBAJ&pg=PA379 Is this still correct behavior? My feeling is that this wasn't a helpful edit, but I'm worried that neither URL format is necessarily stable now if Google are in the process of changing or deprecating their Books URLs. What format should Wikipedia use? Is there a better place to ask this question? Salpynx (talk) 19:31, 27 February 2024 (UTC)
- A better new url would be https://www.google.com/books/edition/_/m8W2AgAAQBAJ?gbpv=1&pg=PA379 since that chunk of text has no effect. AManWithNoPlan (talk) 14:11, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
I will work on reworking the code to make "new" URLs. I will have to do it as a pull request to work out the kinks, and it will take time. AManWithNoPlan (talk) 15:10, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
journal = Meth. Enzymol. + series = Methods in Enzymology
- What should happen
- [26]
- We can't proceed until
- Feedback from maintainers
Another example: diff which throws a Cite journal requires |journal= error. If a {{cite journal}} has both |journal=
and |series=
with identical or similar values, then |series=
should be dropped, not |journal=
. Boghog (talk) 11:16, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
- Here Methods in Enzymology is a book series, not a journal, so that's the fix that should be done here. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 19:53, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
CS1 error when Citation bot changes publisher parameter to work for cite book template
- Status
- {{fixed}}
- Reported by
- Stefen Towers among the rest! Gab • Gruntwerk 22:46, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
- What happens
- publisher parameter to cite book template is replaced by Citation bot with work, which displays as a CS1 error
- What should happen
- Citation bot should leave it alone (I think)
- Relevant diffs/links
- https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Harold_Stassen&diff=prev&oldid=1215401261
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- Feedback from maintainers
adding journal to cite book
- Status
- {{wontfix}} since it is a single reference
- Reported by
- Spinixster (trout me!) 02:50, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
- What happens
- this
- What should happen
- not that, since it generates an error. I've undone the edit.
- We can't proceed until
- Feedback from maintainers
I think a template change to Template:Cite journal would be better. Spinixster (trout me!) 02:50, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
- The fix [27]. This is a book series, but individual books are untitled. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 06:50, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
- Ugh, the series and the "title" are the same. Will look into. AManWithNoPlan (talk) 13:35, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
Adds volume=year to conference proceedings incorrectly formatted as journal
- Status
- {{fixed}} - rejects volumes that are same as year
- Reported by
- —David Eppstein (talk) 22:28, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
- What happens
- Special:Diff/1224203420
- What should happen
- not that
- We can't proceed until
- Feedback from maintainers
Better handling of SPIE proceedings
- Status
- {{fixed}} - now recognizes "international symposium" as magic phrase
- Reported by
- Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 13:47, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
- What should happen
- [28]
- We can't proceed until
- Feedback from maintainers
Still needs lots of cleanup after, e.g [29] + cleanup, [30] + cleanup. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 18:30, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
And if there are magic words "Proceedings of SPIE" "Proceedings of the SPIE" "Proc SPIE" "Proc. SPIE" "SPIE Proceedings" "SPIE Proc." "SPIE Proc" and "Proceedings of the Society of Photo-Optical Instrumentation Engineers" should all be added. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 18:39, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
- Those also. AManWithNoPlan (talk) 21:34, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
Zenodo
Hi, The citation bot is putting in links to Zenodo. It is consider problematic and best avoided. scope_creepTalk 10:05, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
- Example please. AManWithNoPlan (talk) 02:49, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
- {{fixed}} AManWithNoPlan (talk) 12:55, 19 June 2024 (UTC)