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Reference?[edit]
You added "Jewish" to Rachel Yakar, but please also add a reference. It is not mentioned in the following reference, which is misleading. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:21, 1 July 2023 (UTC)
- Hi Gerda,
- Thanks for the question.
- Here is BARD's answer to the question "Was Rachel Yakar Jewish"?
- "Yes, Rachel Yakar was Jewish. She was born in Lyon, France, to
- a Jewish family of Greek-Turkish origin."
- Here is ChatGPT's answer to the same question:
- "Yes, Rachel Yakar was Jewish. She is a renowned Israeli soprano
- who was born on November 5, 1938, in Jerusalem, British Mandate
- Palestine (now Israel). Yakar has achieved international acclaim
- for her performances in opera and concert, particularly in the
- field of Baroque music."
- Add to this the fact "Yakar" is a very common Jewish surname in
- Sephardi Jewish communities in Greece, Turkey and Israel, and is
- never encountered among Christians.
- It is not obvious to me what do you mean by "reference". Are you
- asking for notarized copies of people's birth certificates ?!?
- Have you ever seen Helene Grimaud's or Martha Argerich's birth
- certificates? Or Arthur Rubinstein's? We could go on forever.
- Best regards,
- dk DanKoren (talk) 10:44, 1 July 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you for explaining. I believe you that she was Jewish. However, I understand that you are here from 2016, and should soon have been told and have understood that for Wikipedia it doesn't matter if something is true, - it has to be verifiable by a reliable source (reference, citation) which should be mentioned right after the fact by "inline citation". You put in the fact "Jewish family" in an existing sentence with a citation (Kutsch/Riemens), but that citation doesn't have it. That is misleading. Please find a good reliable citation (ChatJPT is downright wrong about her place of birth, and not reliable at all, and I doubt that Bard is much better) for her being Jewish, and add it right after the fact. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:58, 1 July 2023 (UTC)
- ?!?
- I have been on Wikipedia since the early 90s!
- Where do you get your data? Your request for a
- "reliable citation" is unreasonable and absurd
- in this context. Can you show me a "realiable
- citation" that "proves" Martha Argerich is
- Jewish? Or that any of the several hundred
- musicians listed as Jewish in the Wikipedia
- are or were actually Jewish?
- Let's be serious.
- dk DanKoren (talk) 12:05, 1 July 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you for explaining. I believe you that she was Jewish. However, I understand that you are here from 2016, and should soon have been told and have understood that for Wikipedia it doesn't matter if something is true, - it has to be verifiable by a reliable source (reference, citation) which should be mentioned right after the fact by "inline citation". You put in the fact "Jewish family" in an existing sentence with a citation (Kutsch/Riemens), but that citation doesn't have it. That is misleading. Please find a good reliable citation (ChatJPT is downright wrong about her place of birth, and not reliable at all, and I doubt that Bard is much better) for her being Jewish, and add it right after the fact. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:58, 1 July 2023 (UTC)
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