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{{helpme}} I have heard that this site has many "administrators" who can delete pages and block people. Can you give me more information about that? Can I become one? Digago (talk) 22:45, 14 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia does have administrators- you can read more about them at WP:ADMIN. People don't become administrators until they have first thoroughly learned the rules of Wikipedia and made lots of useful contributions to the encyclopedia- normally after several years of regular editing. Rather than worrying too much about that, as a new user, you should simply concentrate on what you can do to make the encyclopedia better. Ultimately, it's more fun to improve pages and save them from deletion than to delete them, more fun to help new users than to block them. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 22:45, 14 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Oh. Is there a list of people who want to be administrators?Digago (talk) 22:50, 14 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You might find Wikipedia:Requests for adminship interesting. It lists the people who are currently nominated for positions as administrators, and the discussion the community is having over whether or not they should be given the position. As you can see, it's quite short- when a person is accepted or declined, they're removed from that list, so it's only the current candidates. The top of that page, though, links to lists of successful and unsuccessful candidates, which might make interesting reading if you want to understand the kinds of things that are generally looked for in an administrator. The list of unsuccessful candidacies might be especially interesting to you. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 22:54, 14 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. Digago (talk) 23:03, 14 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi - I have removed your comment from the TideRolls RFA. If you have questions it may be best to review the pages mentioned above, or to ask them either here or at the RFA talk page. Thanks. 7 23:15, 14 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Can I support TideRolls ? Digago (talk) 23:17, 14 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Any registered account (including you) can state your opinion in an RFA. Before doing so you should make sure you are familiar with the candidates contributions. Thanks. 7 23:29, 14 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

And here's a list of people who want to be administrators :). The page has directions on how to add yourself to the list. Happy editing, Airplaneman ✈ 00:02, 15 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Tide Rolls' RfA

Hello and welcome again! I noticed that you opposed Tide rolls' RfA, but did not give a reason. Please note that Wikipedia uses consensus, not voting, so your !vote (read "not vote") won't really hold much weight with the people who decide if an RfA passes or fails. If you have a reason for opposing, then please note what your reason is next to your oppose. Thanks!--Unionhawk ^Talk ^E-mail 21:26, 15 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Blocked

You've been indefinitely blocked as a block-evading sock, CU confirmed. Votes in the two RFAs nullified. — Rlevse • Talk • 23:25, 15 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I don't understand. Will you elaborate? Digago (talk) 23:30, 15 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

See WP:SOCKS. --Alan (talk) 23:33, 15 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Okay. I've read through that, but what other accounts have I been using? Digago (talk) 23:34, 15 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

{{helpme}} Will someone get me out of this mess? Digago (talk) 23:50, 15 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You got yourself into it. —fetch ·comms 23:55, 15 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

(edit conflict) See the the guide to appealing blocks. Mike moral ♪♫ 23:57, 15 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

{{helpme}} Okay, but what other accounts have I been using? Digago (talk) 00:02, 16 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I affirm to you that I have not used any other accounts. Digago (talk) 00:05, 16 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

CheckUser confirmed, your word means nothing. —fetch ·comms 00:11, 16 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

That means, you did, just btw. Mike moral ♪♫ 00:12, 16 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Please see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bureaucrats%27_noticeboard#User:Digago_and_RFA_votes for the details. Ks0stm If you reply here, please leave me a {{Talkback}} message on my talk page. 00:17, 16 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I have not used any other accounts, and the administrator who blocked me has not revealed the accounts he purports me to operate. This appears to be an attempt to silence dissent. First, you bullied Schfifty3 for expressing his discontent, and then you block me for not maintaining the status quo. It seems to me that the operators of this website pressure people to conform. Digago (talk) 00:18, 16 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The best results for you may come if you politely ask Rlevse to explain this. You can do that right here, and I will point him to this page. But seriously, instead of denying it over and over, politely ask him for an explanation. Ks0stm If you reply here, please leave me a {{Talkback}} message on my talk page. 00:24, 16 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Rlevse, will you reveal what accounts you purport me to operate? Digago (talk) 00:27, 16 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ks0stm is correct, your 00:18 post isn't going to get you anywhere. Volalo is the other account, which I can post here but I'm sure you know I can't go into the CU details except to say it's an extremely good CU match. For those reading this, Volalo's indef block entry says "Abusing multiple accounts" — Rlevse • Talk • 00:42, 16 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Okay. I understand now. But for Volalo, why was I blocked in the first place there? What accounts did I use before that? Digago (talk) 00:51, 16 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ah. So before you denied using other accounts but now admit it. As for Volalo, ask that blocking admin. — Rlevse • Talk • 00:58, 16 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Can you ask him because (as you already know) I can't? Digago (talk) 01:04, 16 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Done. — Rlevse • Talk • 01:05, 16 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I haven't used any accounts before Volalo. I really haven't. With that account I just wanted to get involved quickly, but I guess that it failed. With this, I wanted also to get involved. I thought that my vote in Tide rolls' RfA would matter and I would be proud that I accomplished something on Wikipedia. For everyone who says I "abused multiple accounts," I stand corrected. I have only used Volalo in addition to this one. Now I hope that everyone can forgive me if I have caused disruption and that I get unblocked so that I can continue in my quest to improve this encyclopedia. Digago (talk) 01:22, 16 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I've contacted User:J.delanoy, the blocking admin for Volalo, which if you remember had a conversation with me a few days ago. Now can you please tell me the truth, have you ever used any other accounts than this one and User:Volalo? If you be honset, then your chances of getting a second chance will be better and you may be unconditionally unblocked. If you want to, you can always E-mail me since your E-mail has not been revoked.--White Shadows ^{you're breaking up} 18:21, 16 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

{{helpme}} (Can someone notify White Shadows? I'm not sure if he saw this. Digago (talk) 23:09, 16 May 2010 (UTC))[reply]

OK. —Soap— 23:10, 16 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, White Shadows. Thank you for taking the time to contact J.delanoy. To tell you the truth, the only accounts I have ever used on Wikipedia are Digago and Volalo. I swear I'm being honest, and I appreciate your support. Thank you, White Shadows. Digago (talk) 22:02, 16 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'm slightly inclined to not belive you but I will Assume Good Faith. Once J. delanoy responds, I'll see if I can get an unblock for you. However you may have to agree to a few things (they are known as Editing Restrictions) You'll have to agree to never create any other accounts here and agree to regular CU's to make sure that you will follow it. I may also suggest that a menor be found to teach you the "ways of the wiki" so to speak and to monitor what you do and most importanly keep you out of trouble. If you agree to thoses, I'm sure a second chance will be given. Just tell me what you think.--White Shadows ^{you're breaking up} 23:16, 16 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I acquiesce to all of the above. Thanks again for your support. Digago (talk) 23:18, 16 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Do not mention it. Now I'm going to ping J.delanoy and if he still is offline, I'll bring it up at WP:ANI (I'll give you a link to it once I start the thread) anything that you want posted there, just type it here on your talk page and I'll copy it over to the thread. Hopefully the community will have mercy on your sole :) (They tend to not be too generous towards sock puppeteers)--White Shadows ^{you're breaking up} 23:21, 16 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I think this all depends on a lot of things we don't know. I wouldn't be so sure that, even if a user is willing to vouch for you, mentor you, etc., that it means you'll be granted an unblock request. For one thing, we don't know the identities of the other accounts that you were supposedly using before Volalo (if they exist). I wouldnt recommend going to ANI personally, because even the admins don't know what J.delanoy and other checkusers know. I would wait for a reply from Jdelanoy first. —Soap— 23:23, 16 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

2x(edit conflict)::I wonder if either Rlevse or J.delanoy could confirm or dispel this. Without going into detail or even naming any further accounts, were there any accounts other than the 2 that are now public knowledge? HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 23:22, 16 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed. If you do want another chance, you need to tell me every account that you have ever edited from. (Please do not lie as you'll be blocked forever) If you say none other than these two, and the CUs find that there are more than 2, you will never be unblocked. I need you to be totally honest with me now before it is too late. (If there are more, do not worry, we all make mistakes and your chances of being unblocked may still exist, if you are indeed telling the truth, then I appologize)--White Shadows ^{you're breaking up} 23:28, 16 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Confirmed Volalo (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki) = Seeingwaterf (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki) = BfnGuyMan (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki) = Dddwx (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki). J.delanoy ^gabs _adds 23:31, 16 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sigh....are you 100% positive that they are the same person J.delanoy? I do not know how CU works....--White Shadows ^{you're breaking up} 23:32, 16 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

talking to J.delanoy, pls allow a day or so for us to sort this out. — Rlevse • Talk • 00:26, 17 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sighing too. If you look at what those other accounts have done, there's no way they can be me. I don't use profanity. Digago (talk) 23:35, 16 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Then how do you explain the conection? Do you mind telling me in what place do you edit from? (A house, a library, a school ect...)--White Shadows ^{you're breaking up} 23:43, 16 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I edit from a library. Also, those other accounts deface the content. I don't. If you look at my edits to articles for both Volalo and this account, they were all making improvements. Digago (talk) 23:48, 16 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

While that may explain the edits from the other accounts, how did you find me and Malleus in your first two edits? Why did you first talk to us? Many newbies have a very hard time finding out how to even go to ANI or even another talk page (much less know what they are)--White Shadows ^{you're breaking up} 23:51, 16 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I was on Omegle, and someone gave me a link to your pages and told me to put, "I'm fearful of editing Wikipedia. Will you help alleviate my fear?" I went ahead and did it. That person praised me after I had done it. I was confused, but I felt proud. Digago (talk) 00:09, 17 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Do you know who it was, did he/she give you a name or a wikipedia account? And still, how do you explain the other accounts being connected to you?--White Shadows ^{you're breaking up} 00:12, 17 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No. No one gives names on Omegle. Well, I edit from a library, so maybe those other accounts belong to someone who also uses my library. Digago (talk) 00:48, 17 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It could be a checkuser false positive because of that, but that depends. Checkuser shows more information than just IP address, I recall, but I don't remember what that other information is. Ks0stm If you reply here, please leave me a {{Talkback}} message on my talk page. 00:51, 17 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps you should make an unblock request useing the WP:AAB.--White Shadows ^{you're breaking up} 21:04, 17 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, White Shadows, for all your help. I will be requesting unblock shortly. Digago (talk) 06:58, 18 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Digago (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

When I came to Wikipedia, I did not know any rules. After I was blocked from editing as Volalo, I thought that only that account was restricted, not me as a person. I discovered that I was mistaken the hard way. The few edits I managed to make before I was blocked were general improvements. I hope that I'll be unblocked because I misunderstood policy and broke it unintentionally. Thank you. Digago (talk) 07:08, 18 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Decline reason:

You were required to read WP:U before signing up. You then tried to play games and "affirmed" that you had no other accounts, when you knew you did. You wasted a lot of editing time by administrators asking questions you knew the answer to, and denying others. Until I see proof that you may be a positive asset to the project, then no. If your other account is blocked, then this account will never be unblocked due to WP:EVADE, and you should be request unblock through your original account some day. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 09:42, 18 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

I will do that. Digago (talk) 23:27, 18 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]