User talk:Dyfnaint

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Hi Dyfnaint! Welcome to Wikipedia and thanks for your edits to Plymouth, Plympton, etc.

Unfortunately there's a bit of a problem with your editing to the toponymy of Plympton - a derivation ("Pen-lyn-don") that's apparently been published by a local researcher, with no reasoning, should not be given prominence over the one given by the standard reference works on the subject ("Plum-tree farm"). We can mention the "Pen-lyn-don" derivation, but only in a proportionate manner: see WP:DUE for our guidance on this. I'll edit the article to be more in accordance with the guidance.

Yes, we do have a lot of rules and guidelines, but don't worry about it! I've added a standard welcome message below above - it includes a number of links that should prove useful.

Hope this helps, and happy to answer any questions you may have.  —SMALLJIM  13:36, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for your information. I understand Wikipedia's need for references etc... Having said that and as a person who grew up in the area the "dictionary" reference given does not reflect what I understand, or what was taught to me at school, nor local belief. Of course, I will accept any balanced revision, but I will try to find other authorative sources (such as lWell known ocal historian W G Hoskins) who I am sure supported a "pen lyn..." derivation.

Thanks for your message

Dyfnaint (talk) 15:31, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

That's interesting. I've had a quick look through Hoskins' Devon and couldn't see anything: Hoskins didn't seem to concern himself very much with toponymy, as far as I can tell. The "plum tree" derivation seems to come from Ekwall's work: it's the only derivation shown in the standard Place-names of Devon (1931). Rowe (1906) discussed the matter (copy online here), and ascribed a "Penlynton" derivation to one Dyer of Exeter "in one of his amusing books". Rowe discarded this and plumped for a tribe or family name as the most likely explanation. Maybe local belief dates back to this Dyer? I've got a few other places I can look - will report back if I find anything else.  —SMALLJIM  16:30, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

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