User talk:Espresso Addict/archive3

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award

		The DYK Medal
		Awarded by this editor for a Did You Know contribution that appeared on the main page, a hook that was well written, referenced, and displayed irony, a fact related to a distinguishing characteristic of the subject of the article, or other notable property. AwardBot 15:02, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

Coffee FAC

I replied to your comments on the Coffee FAC a few days, and you haven't responded. I wondered what else I can do to improve the article. HOpefully you have time to reply soon. Cheers, Jude. 22:16, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

DYK

On 2 October, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article International Journal of Systematic and Evolutionary Microbiology, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Cheers, D_arkF_alls ^talk 01:15, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Cheshire Portal biography

I have been doing some more work on Sir John Brunner, 1st Baronet recently and think this may be a suitable biography for the portal at some time. What do you think? It is worth submitting it for GA approval? Best wishes, Peter. Peter I. Vardy 14:37, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your comments on its talk page. My only response to date is (not a very good one) about the copyright. Otherwise I am going to let it rest for a while and see if any more sources crop up and hope other editors can improve it.

Yes I like your idea for the suggestion page for portal articles – if only project members will subscribe to it (including me)! Peter. Peter I. Vardy 09:33, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Churche's Mansion

I like the article; hence my comments on Portal:Cheshire/Suggest. Go for GA; the article is at least as good as Halton Castle. I am not into textural criticism (which is why I welcome yours) but a couple of technical points. The link to Borough of Crewe & Nantwich: Nantwich Town Centre Walk seems to have died. And it's a pity that Churche's Mansion website is a 'For Sale' notice; I wonder what will happen to the website when the property is sold – will all those excellent photos disappear? Best wishes. Peter. Peter I. Vardy 15:45, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Great – all you have to lose is Wikistress; and you sometimes learn something (maybe painfully) in the process. I'm amazed that with your prodigious output you've not had a GA (or above). And how do you fit writing a novel into spending 25+ hours a day on WP? Cheers. Peter I. Vardy 17:01, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Good for you – you win some; you lose some. What the ****? I must say that really I agree with you about 20 informative-but-brief articles being better than 1 GA, but – go for the badge; and if it's Cheshire related, it's got to be good for the project/portal. I might even have a go with Sir John Brunner, 1st Baronet. If it fails, so what? Life is for living, and if you help someone on the way, so much the better. Peter I. Vardy 18:11, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Re: Drapetomania - withdrew AFD as I instantly was trashed and harassed

Thanks for you thanks and I will try to do a better job next time. I withdrew the AFD because of the harassment. However one of my main objections, the linking of Oppositional Defiant Disorder and Sluggishly progressing schizophrenia to Drapetomania have been removed. And although brief, the AFD did have the effect gathering attention and hopefully will therefore be improved. Regards, --Mattisse 12:36, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

DYK updating

Not sure if you've done this yet, but I'm sure you know how. While the update clock is at 10 hours, shouldn't we just update it and prevent more items tomorrow from being expired? I know many have used expired noms, and even if it's decided they shouldn't be used, it would be better to have them replaced in the template than the whole update being delayed. Rigadoun (talk) 14:23, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

DYk

I have commented at the discussion page, suffice it to say, I am not happy right now. Nothing personal against you or anything. IvoShandor 14:48, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Re expired noms at DYK

Generally it's been my feeling that one-day expired nominations can be included, as the supply of decent articles varies substantially from day to day, so that backlogs of usable items are common. Moreover, often problems are only noticed at the last minute, meaning that good-faith efforts to fix the articles result in an article that becomes usable only when technically expired. Could you possibly join the discussion at the talk page about this? Regards, Espresso Addict 14:13, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Which talk page? I could not find the discussion. We have lots of nominations with pictures waiting to go up and the current turn around only allows for 3 sets of noms per day, so I would prefer to keep rolling through them lest we have more and more drop out as expired.

Also note that the currently scheduled update is blocked by our school site, so whatever is on the next update could block schools from access to the main page if it's put up. --EncycloPetey 15:17, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

I've reverted the next update to the version with expired noms and it seems ok. I think it was Ivo's edit summaries that was causing the block, so if you don't use expletives when updating the main page, it will be okay. Please put it up asap. Rigadoun (talk) 15:30, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, it was just the hook. Main page looks good to me; thanks for updating (and crediting, the tedious part). Rigadoun (talk) 16:05, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Drapetomania

Please give some advice on this article. If you read the talk page, it is treading over the same issues, using some of the same biased sources, as the recently deleted Psychiatric abuse. This is getting overwhelming. --Mattisse 15:57, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

GA for John Brunner

Thanks for your congrats for the GA achieved by Sir John Brunner, 1st Baronet. I was particularly lucky in that it was picked up within hours by User:Malleus Fatuarum who is not only English but is even local (from Greater Manchester). I have regarded him previously as a "Wikifriend" because he has made helpful suggestions for other Cheshire-linked articles. He made some reasonable comments in a very sympathetic manner and when these were dealt with, accepted it as a GA. I see that Churche's Mansion has not yet been picked up – once again good luck when it is; I hope you get a sympathetic and helpful assessor. Peter. Peter I. Vardy 11:09, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

It's me again I'm afraid, I'm the reviewer. I was dragged up in nearby Crewe, and I well remember Churche's Mansion, so I couldn't resist. I'll post my comments on that article's talk page shortly. --Malleus Fatuarum 23:16, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

It just shows that you cannot keep anything secret in Wikipedia! A lot of comments have been made about Churche's Mansion but I think they can all be dealt with. And at least you have a reviewer who works with you rather than showing how "clever" s/he is. If I can help please let me know. Peter. Peter I. Vardy 09:07, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Anne Montgomery

		The Editor's Barnstar
		For your expert edits to the Anne Montgomery article, which brings the article together, I award you the Editor's Barnstar. Truthanado 12:41, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Churche's Mansion GA

Brilliant – you've done it! Congratulations! I followed the process and it looks as if you had to do some hard work, but isn't it worth it? And you got a helpful reviewer who worked with you. Were Wikipedia always like that. So what's your next GA? Peter. Peter I. Vardy 20:11, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Dead white males

WHY did you delete the AfD notice from the top of this page? Dayton Rowland 05:34, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

Manipulation of WP

I read an article in the newspaper about manipulation of Wikipedia a few months ago. A few days ago, I saw a message board about someone banned from WP by a moderator just because he didn't like what was said (even though other message board contributors failed to see anything bad about the edit).

I just came across an article about an American presidential candidates Hillary Rodham Clinton being one of them. The moderator there is bullying others and striking out comments. He claims socks but this is just an excuse for eliminating any discussion. As far as the comments that he objects to, they are nothing radical.

In fact, I just put a suggestion there and I wouldn't be surprised if he tried to eliminate me. If so, you should make the correction to the Prentice Position article. It has a major error. MD12752 04:19, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

FYI: This is another sock of banned user Dereks1x, posting in evasion of his ban (the third one uncovered yesterday); account is now blocked. Tvoz |talk 16:24, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Oh, right - of course. Nice to meet you anyway! Tvoz |talk 16:55, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

My recent RfA

I am sorry you felt it necessary to oppose my recent RfA, which did not succeed. I will attempt to get more experience in the main namespace and the Wikipedia namespace and will try again for RfA in two month's time. I hope I will have satisfied your concerns by then, but if not, please comment as you feel you should. Thanks for participating in my RfA. -- Cobi^(t|c|b|cn) 07:48, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Close studding

Keep your eye on it because the first thing you know it will be redirected to post and lintel, timber framing, tudor architecture something. I've had that happen when the article is still on the main page DYK! --Mattisse 23:49, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Well, I hope you do. If you notice, decorative half-timbering has been redirected to timber framing. Grrr. I've had many such battles -- currently the editor of Caisson (Asian architecture) wants to merge with zaojing. In fact, he did do it. He just emptied out zaojing, put a redirect on it, and stuffed the contents into Caisson (Asian architecture). I did one of the few non vandal reverts I've ever done. I had to go to ANI just to get him to stop and use a merge at least (which he has not done yet). We are at a standoff now. Same problem with Lintel (architecture) which I wrote because post and lintel was focusing strictly on the structural, building method side and I wanted to highlight the ornamental use. But immediately I had to fight off the merge and redirect people. It still has {{merge}} on it so I have to keep my eyes wide open. It's a war out there! --Mattisse 00:13, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

DYK

Thanks for sorting out the overdue update. -- !! ?? 14:07, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

I understand that it gets easier (and quicker) after doing it a few times. It is a bit galling for writers and nominators that we seldom get the published 4 updates a day (one every six hours) because admins find the task too burdensome or daunting. Perhaps something can be done to make it easier?

Maybe the best person to write up some new instructions is a person who has just gone up that particular learning curve, rather than one who has already reached the plateau? ( *hint* :) -- !! ?? 14:22, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Re Sir Peter Leycester, 1st Baronet and DYK. Yes that's much punchier – I had wondered how to make it shorter; and I'd also "forgotten" to include the reference to Cheshire! Many thanks. Peter I. Vardy 14:56, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Made the main page with the DYK! Thanks for the assistance. Peter. Peter I. Vardy 19:31, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

DYK referring to Dus-rong Mang-po-rje article

Dear Espresso Addict: Thanks you so much for informing me that there was a reference to the article I wrote on Dus-rong Mang-po-rje in the DYK section yesterday. I had somehow missed it there. Did you put it up for inclusion? If so, double thanks!!

I have just had a quick look at your User Page and noticed you have been a virologist so thought you might be intersted in an aricle I wrote some time ago on a laboratory I trained in as laboratory technician as a teenager in Trinidad: Trinidad Regional Virus Laboratory. Yes, that is Yours Truly as a young man in the photo! I have also contributed significantly to the articles on rabies, vampire bats as well as several others and also wrote a whole article on my early mentor Dr. Wilbur Downs. I just thought I would take advantage of this oppotunity in case you might be interested. Whatever the case, thank you so much and I send you all best wishes, John Hill 00:22, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

Current batch of DYKs

I agree with you. Sadly there's a dearth of illustrated hooks around at the moment. Feel free to re-arrange if you fancy. GeeJo ^(t)⁄_(c) • 22:47, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

DYK

Can you take a look at this please. Thanks Taprobanus 23:08, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for you help and suggestions, I have donethem both replaced He with his name and changed the hook. Taprobanus 18:39, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Another one please Thanks Taprobanus 13:07, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

close studding

On 14 October, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article close studding, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--GeeJo ^(t)⁄_(c) • 23:19, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

Medicine deletion sorting page

A little while ago you thanked me for adding an article to the Medicine deletion sorting page. Now I cannot figure out how on earth I did that, as I cannot find the Medicine deletion sorting page anywhere. Did you know that Psychiatric abuse is once again up for deletion? Could you add it to the Medicine deletion sorting page? (Also,perhaps you could give me instructions on now to do it for myself in the future.) Thanks! --Mattisse 15:46, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

P.S. Very nice article, close studding! --Mattisse 15:48, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

FL mockups

You previously opposed the List of the Day Proposal due to formatting concerns. Could you please look at the following two proposed main page mockups and reconsider your vote:

Excerpted list format

Abbreviated text format --TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 18:03, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

St Lawrence's Church, Stoak

Thanks for selecting St Lawrence's Church, Stoak for DYK. I must say I had not spotted the hook myself, and in any case I was thinking that folks might be getting bored with Cheshire churches. Still it's good to get Cheshire in the main page again. Best wishes. Peter. Peter I. Vardy 09:56, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

James Trubshaw

On 20 October, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article James Trubshaw, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--GeeJo ^(t)⁄_(c) • 15:59, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

Randle Holme

I have written a new article on the (to me) fascinating Chester family with four generations bearing the name Randle Holme, painters of memorial boards and hatchments, some of which still exist in Cheshire churches (and they are interesting in other ways too). I think there is a DYK somewhere in it but am struggling to come up with an interesting hook without having to give a lot of background information. Possibilities include:

1. ...that Randle Holme was the name carried in four successive generations of a family in Chester, Cheshire, England, and each of these was a deputy herald of the College of Arms?
2. ..that Randle Holme III of Chester, Cheshire, England painted memorial boards without permission from the College of Arms and that its senior officer, Sir William Dugdale, then travelled to the north of England and personally destroyed many of them?
3. ..that Randle Holme III of Chester, Cheshire, England wrote a work called The Academie of Armorie in 1688, much of which was included in a CD produced by the British Library in 2000?

Do you think any of these is suitable; or can you come up with something better? (Bet you can!) Peter.

PS Congratulations on the articles on close studding and James Trubshaw. Peter I. Vardy 18:03, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

unsourced academic BLPs

Generally speaking, unsourced BLPs should be considered very carefully. Perhaps more so for academics. For many academics, allegations that they have side consulting jobs with paying for-profit clients are controversial or contentious - like who funds an academic's research becomes controversial - because one can never fully discount that the results or targets of the academic's research are in some way compromised by such affiliations. Carlossuarez46 17:27, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

re Karen Vousden

Sorry... Absolutely unintentional... Thanks for letting me know. --Camptown 22:47, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

An article which you started, or significantly expanded, Karen Vousden, was selected for DYK!

On October 23, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Karen Vousden, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Thanks for your contributions! Nishkid64 (talk) 03:38, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

Labour India

Hi sir, I have created an article about Labour India before, details are here. The Labour India groups have ventured into somany business areas and a well-establsihed name in Kerala. The main areas of Labour India group is education, publication, news paper, tourism, schools (in India & US) and IT. I therefore, request you to help me to create this page again as Labour India group of companies are one of the top-level companies in Kerala-India. Please see the website, Gurukulam public school Bluefield International Academy and santhosh george kulangara etc. all belongs to Labour India. But you have deleted my article. I request you to re-consider the the matter, and I want to re-create it.--Avinesh Jose 09:04, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

DYK American Ceylon Mission

When you have time, please take a look at this. Thanks Taprobanus 19:44, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

LOTD proposal

You either voted on the original list of the day proposal or the revised version. A more modest experimental proposal is now at issue at WP:LOTDP. Feel free to voice your opinion.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 17:43, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

Peak District vandalism edits

Hi! You gave a final warning to Jazzio9226362 about vandalism to the article in October, with the threat of a block. Regrettably he has returned to do some more, which has been reverted by Utcursch today. I have also noted some by him to the Harry Lewis article today, when I deleted some from 82.32.9.171 that ClueBot missed as it reverted his, They may be the same user!. -- Richard Harvey (talk) 18:08, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, Richard. As the user does not seem to have been vandalising recently I've just added a level 3 warning for the edit to Peak District. I've not done much in the way of blocks since I became an admin, but if s/he vandalises again, an indefinite block as a vandalism-only account might be in order, though it seems quite a low-level problem so far. It does look like the IP is the same person, but as as no warnings have been given and that vandalism is old, there's not a lot that can be done. -- Espresso Addict (talk) 19:59, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

An article which you started, or significantly expanded, Sam Thompson (writer), was selected for DYK!

On November 19, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Sam Thompson (writer), which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Thanks for your contributions! Nishkid64 (talk) 19:15, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Removal of the Eureka, California Amtrak Stop ARTICLE

I have just one question....Why? I am not sure that it is helpful to persons looking for that stop to have more difficulty finding it now. So before I replace it, I will ask some questions to gain clarity. Thanks. Norcalal 08:11, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

LOTD experiment

Now that my project is fully up and running, I though you might want to consider the four main benefits of my method over the one that you seem to be supporting:

1. There is a set of orphaned articles for persons who do not have any featured lists of their own or persons that would like to take responsibility for more. Anyone can nominate such orphans. This benefits WP by getting people involved in list articles that might not have active editors to update them or defend them against vandalism. Please consider adopting one of our orphans.
2. Each list will be encouraged to respond to commentary and feedback during the candidacy period, which will hopefully improve the quality of the articles.
3. Articles without pictures will be encouraged to find them. E.g., List of Harry Potter films cast members had no image before its nominator added an image for this experiment. This type of thing, of course, improves the project.
4. Articles are encouraged to add relevant projects to their talk page. This alerts other project to articles that they would likely have an interest in and would be able to either improve or protect.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:LOTD) 17:48, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Sunset Whisky Bar

Thanks for the follow-up on this deletion consideration. Cheers, Guroadrunner (talk)

Barnstar!

		The Editor's Barnstar
		Thanks for saving Great Manchester Run from deletion, I forgot completely about the whole thing, and didn't know it was prodded. Thanks once again! Rudget talk 18:25, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

Wiki Doctorate

Wiki Doctorate is a new scheme designed to recognise the people who "do all the work" on Wikipedia. It has been mainly developed for Wikipedia administrators however if you have done lots to keep Wikipedia on "the straight and narrow", including being members of different groups which help Wikipedia i.e "The Welcoming Committee. We have selected to email you because you can apply for the doctorate and we would be very grateful if you did and put the userbox on your user page to boost advertising. The following link will take you straight to our homepage.

Yours sincerely

--Dr.J.Wright MD (talk) 23:54, 31 December 2007 (UTC)