User talk:Evaporation123

Edits regarding Spanish

Hi, if you are going to ping me specifically regarding an article, I suggest using the user talk page instead of an article's discussion page. That being said, have you looked through the various discussions regarding Western Sahara on the talk page for Spanish language? Your edits are disruptive and looking at your history, you've been warned about this manner before. - Moalli (talk) 17:56, 19 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

My apologies for bad ping protocol. Anyways, I don't see any discussion whatsoever on the talk page (regarding Western Sahara) for that article except what I brought up. Evaporation123 (talk) 18:31, 19 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Dembow

Please do not move pages unless there is a consensus or compelling reason to do so. OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 12:52, 29 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Extended confirmed restrictions

Hello,

Please be aware that all articles related to politics, ethnic relations, and conflicts involving Armenia, Azerbaijan, or both—broadly construed and explicitly including the Armenian genocide—are subject to an extended confirmed restriction. KhndzorUtogh (talk) 22:58, 31 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, I know this is about the Kurdish Republic of Lachin article: I am aware of the policy and will refrain from involving myself in articles about those subjects in the future. Thank you for not removing the article as well, knowledge should not just be eliminated based on a technicality. Evaporation123 (talk) 00:48, 1 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Columbia University Apartheid Divest (April 22)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Pbritti was:

This draft's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article. In summary, the draft needs multiple published sources that are:

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secondary
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This is a subject with some limited notability but I would recommend merging its content to one of several articles about the protest movement associated with the Gaza War. Please note that student news organizations tend to not count towards establishing notability for subjects related to a given university.

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ISW Gaza Map

Hi, I saw the discussion about the map in the infobox of the Israel-Hamas War article, and wanted to clarify that the ISW does in fact show total extent rather than current control. The reason for this is that at the beginning of the war this distinction wasn't necessary, and it only became necessary when the IDF started withdrawing from areas at the end of December. They never changed the way their map works, which has led to a very confusing situation where only the "reported Israeli clearing operations" layer of their map is useful in any way, as it shows the total extent of Israeli operations throughout the entire war based more or less entirely on satellite imagery (that I also have access to). The "claimed furthest Israeli advances" layer of their map does not really correspond to anything, they've used it so far maybe three times that I remember, once because they misinterpreted an IDF statement, once because they misinterpreted what someone in a popular Palestinian telegram channel said, and once because they thought Israel could've potentially taken an area but didn't know whether they had or not, at no point did this layer ever correspond to what it's titled as. The third layer of their map is "claimed palestinian reinfiltration" which is the worst one of the three. They use this layer whenever the IDF start a raid into an area they previously withdrew from in Northern Gaza, so really this layer should be called "israeli reinfiltration", since the Gazan factions are present everywhere *except* those areas. Even after the raid ends, they don't change the map and keep it shaded as reinfiltrated, which causes the confusing and incomprehensible web they have in the North. The reason for why their map is this way isn't possible for me to comprehend, you can see where the IDF is still active on the same satellite imagery they use to assess where the IDF has operated in total, so why they never updated the map I can't fathom. It would be better to remove the map entirely from the article than the current state, which simply doesn't correspond to reality in any way. Alternatively, Wikipedia should only show the simple "reported Israeli clearing operations" layer and title it "furthest Israeli advances" since that one at least shows something that is true in reality. Gaza War Unit Tracking (talk) 12:46, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for clarifying. I also found the map on the ISW website very confusing to understand. I also discovered that even on its own wikipedia article it is labeled as "neoconservative", which I assume correlates with a pro-Israel stance and hence I can see how they'd be doing mental gymnastics on their map to deemphasize Israeli withdrawals. Evaporation123 (talk) 20:49, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That's an interesting theory, I hadn't previously considered that the map and its description might be intentionally misleading. Gaza War Unit Tracking (talk) 12:55, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

For your work on coverage of Israel-Hamas War protests in NYC

		The Barnstar of Liberty
		Computer-ergonomics (he/him; talk; please ping me in replies ) 00:23, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Computer-ergonomics My sincerest gratitude for the Barnstar. Evaporation123 (talk) 00:53, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"Latin peoples" listed at Redirects for discussion

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August 2024

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Thank you for the reminder. Evaporation123 (talk) 19:16, 17 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ways to improve Battle at Tel al-Hawa

Hello, Evaporation123,

Thank you for creating Battle at Tel al-Hawa.

I have tagged the page as having some issues to fix, as a part of our page curation process and note that:

I can't find any WP:SIGCOV in a quality independent reliable source for a "Battle at Tel al-Hawa"? The ISW is not a reliable source and in this regard (not independent and without peer reviewed editorial control). thanks.

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Aszx5000 (talk) 14:56, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello,

I'm confused about where this is coming from- the fighting in Tel al-Hawa has been widely covered across multiple news sources (simply just google "tel al-hawa israel hamas"), and as far as I have seen the ISW is considered a reliable source by Wikipedians, having been used in many other Israel-Hamas war related articles.

Evaporation123 (talk) 18:18, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ways to improve Palestinian Youth Movement

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Thank you for creating Palestinian Youth Movement.

I have tagged the page as having some issues to fix, as a part of our page curation process and note that:

If there is another article about the PYM like The Real News Network article, I shall remove the tag. Cheers!

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Conyo14 (talk) 05:14, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Nomination of Palestinian Authority–West Bank militias conflict for deletion

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EpicAdventurer (talk) 19:32, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your recent articles on the PA/Hamas feud

You are creating the impression that the Palestinian Authority (PA) actually functions as a subordinate and collaborator of Israel. If it were truly collaborating, then why hasn’t the Palestinian public risen against it, knowing that collaboration is considered a forbidden and despised act? This is not neutral and harms Wikipedia's credibility, as it hasn’t been mentioned by any reputable and reliable source. The PA does not conduct major operations against Palestinian factions that would warrant separate articles. It only acts against groups that disrupt civil peace, engage in theft, and smuggling. Claims to the contrary are taken from Israeli sites and platforms affiliated with the Muslim Brotherhood, to which Hamas belongs.--EpicAdventurer (talk) 07:09, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The articles I recently created have to do not necessarily with Hamas only, but with the well-documented conflict between the PA and multiple local militias.

Multiple reliable sources:

say the PA is widely perceived by Palestinians as a subcontractor of the Israeli occupation; depict various instances of security coordination; and say that Palestinians are vastly against the PA and in support of the local West Bank militias instead.

I do not have an agenda and I am not here to pretend I can delve into the minds of the Palestinians. I am simply a messenger that created a necessary article to document real life events. Evaporation123 (talk) 07:32, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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