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June 21: WikiWednesday Salon back in Manhattan!

June 21: WikiWednesday @ Prime Produce
WikiWednesday is back in Manhattan!

You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for our WikiWednesday Salon, with in-person at Prime Produce in Hell's Kitchen, Manhattan, as well as an online-based participation option. No experience of anything at all is required. All are welcome!

We are proud to announce that monthly food has returned!

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Administrators' newsletter – July 2023

News and updates for administrators from the past month (June 2023).

Administrator changes

added Novem Linguae
removed

Bureaucrat changes

removed MBisanz

Guideline and policy news

Technical news

Arbitration

  • Two arbitration cases are currently open. Proposed decisions are expected 5 July 2023 for the Scottywong case and 9 July 2023 for the AlisonW case.

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Wikidata weekly summary #583

This Month in GLAM: June 2023





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  • Albania report: CEE Spring Campaign 2023, Albania and Kosovo
  • Asia report: Donation of images from the National Centre for Biological Sciences
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  • Indonesia report: Conclusion of Mini Grants; Second #1Lib1Ref Campaign; Wikisource Workshop in Bali
  • Italy report: TCI and Turin Academy of Science
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  • Netherlands report: A new book, new Wikipedia articles, videos and further images on Africa
  • New Zealand report: Report on the Society for the Preservation of Natural History Collections Conference 2023 and Auckland suburb updates
  • Philippines report: GLAM outreach activity at University of Nueva Caceres: Digitization, workshops and proofread-a-thons as future collaboration
  • Poland report: GLAM-Wiki workshops for the Czartoryski Library; Work on the GLAM-Wiki Project Page Continues; End of Internship within the "Praktykuj w Kulturze" Program
  • Sweden report: Knowledge overview; Almedalen week
  • Switzerland report: Swiss GLAM Programm
  • UK report: Cultural diversity
  • USA report: WikiWednesday returns to Manhattan; Wikimedia NYC and Art+Feminism; WikiConference North America 2023; GLAM Wiki 2023
  • Special story: Flickr Foundation and Wikimedia Foundation partner to build Flickypedia
  • GLAM Wiki conference report: The call for proposals is now open for the GLAM Wiki Conference
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Wikidata weekly summary #584

July 19 WikiWednesday + New York Botanical Garden Edit-a-thon (July 29)

July 19: WikiWednesday @ Prime Produce
WikiWednesday is back in Manhattan!

You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for our WikiWednesday Salon, with in-person at Prime Produce in Hell's Kitchen, Manhattan, as well as an online-based participation option. No experience of anything at all is required. All are welcome!

We are proud to announce that monthly free food has returned!

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July 29: NYBG Environment of the Bronx Edit-a-thon!
Flyer for the NYBG event

You are also invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for our 9th Editathon with the New York Botanical Gardens! Attendees familiar with editing Wikipedia can edit off of a worklist focused on the environment of New York City; as well as, a sub-list focused on the environment of the Bronx. Additionally, LuEsther T. Mertz Library will pull topical media from their collection to assist the editing. You can also learn more and RSVP on the NYBG website here.

Bring your own laptop if you can, the Library can only provide laptops on a first-come, first-served basis. Entrance to the Library is free; when you arrive, alert Security that you are here for the event. Please enter through the Mosholu Entrance at 2950 Southern Boulevard.

12:00pm - 3:00pm
(Mertz Library at the New York Botanical Garden, Bronx)

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Administrators' newsletter – August 2023

News and updates for administrators from the past month (July 2023).

Administrator changes

added Firefangledfeathers
removed

Interface administrator changes

added Novem Linguae

Technical news

Arbitration


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Wikidata weekly summary #589

WikiWednesday (Aug 23) and Governors Island Wiki-Picnic (Sun Aug 27)

August 23: WikiWednesday @ Prime Produce
WikiWednesday in Manhattan

You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for our WikiWednesday Salon, with in-person at Prime Produce in Hell's Kitchen, Manhattan, as well as an online-based participation option. No experience of anything at all is required. All are welcome!

All attendees are subject to Wikimedia NYC's Code of Conduct. In addition, to participate in person, you should be vaccinated and also be sure to respect others' personal space, and we may limit overall attendance size if appropriate.

August 27: Annual NYC Wiknic @ Governors Island
Group photo from 2012 Governors Island Wiknic

Additionally, you are invited to the picnic anyone can edit on Governors Island, at Colonel's Row by ArtCrawl Harlem house, as part of the Great North American Wiknic celebrations (and Wikimania satellite events) being held across the continent.

This is the first big summer Wiknic since the 2019 edition and will feature an edit-a-thon focused on Governors Island and ArtCrawl Harlem, Depths of Wikipedia (recently of perpetual stew fame), as well as plenty more food topics drawing on the potluck ethos. All are welcome, new and experienced!

All attendees are subject to Wikimedia NYC's Code of Conduct, and don't forget your sunscreen!

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Sunday: NYC Wiki-Picnic @ Gov Island

August 27: Annual NYC Wiknic @ Governors Island
Group photo from 2012 Governors Island Wiknic

You are invited to the Annual NYC Wiknic, "the picnic anyone can edit" on Governors Island, at Colonel's Row by ArtCrawl Harlem house, as part of the Great North American Wiknic celebrations (and Wikimania satellite events) being held across the continent.

This is the first summer Wiknic since the 2019 edition and will feature an edit-a-thon focused Governors Island and ArtCrawl Harlem, Depths of Wikipedia and perpetual stew, as well as plenty more food. All are welcome, new and experienced!

All attendees are subject to Wikimedia NYC's Code of Conduct, and don't forget your sunscreen!

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Wikidata weekly summary #591

Precious anniversary

Precious
Five years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:49, 31 August 2023 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – September 2023

News and updates for administrators from the past month (August 2023).

Guideline and policy news

  • Following an RfC, TFAs will be automatically semi-protected the day before it is on the main page and through the day after.
  • A discussion at WP:VPP about revision deletion and oversight for dead names found that [s]ysops can choose to use revdel if, in their view, it's the right tool for this situation, and they need not default to oversight. But oversight could well be right where there's a particularly high risk to the person. Use your judgment.

Technical news

Arbitration

  • The SmallCat dispute case has closed. As part of the final decision, editors participating in XfD have been reminded to be careful about forming local consensus which may or may not reflect the broader community consensus. Regular closers of XfD forums were also encouraged to note when broader community discussion, or changes to policies and guidelines, would be helpful.

Miscellaneous

  • Tech tip: The "Browse history interactively" banner shown at the top of Special:Diff can be used to easily look through a history, assemble composite diffs, or find out what archive something wound up in.

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Wikidata weekly summary #592

Sep 20: Wikimedia NYC Annual Election Meeting

September 20: Annual Election & Members Meeting

You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for our Annual Election & Members Meeting, with in-person at Prime Produce in Hell's Kitchen, Manhattan, as well as an online-based participation option.

The Members' Meeting is similar to other WikiWednesday meetups, except that its primary function is to elect a new Board of Directors. We will elect five board seats. After being elected, those elected can potentially appoint more seats. We will also have a fun WikiWednesday!

Election info:

  • To run for election or to vote, you must be a dues-paying member of Wikimedia New York City, having renewed in the past 12 months.
  • Voting will be both online, via emailed ballots from the ElectionBuddy service, and in-person.
  • The poll will be open for the 48 hours between 8pm EDT on September 18 and 8pm EDT on September 20.
  • For additional information, please consult the Election FAQ.

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This Month in GLAM: August 2023





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Sun Oct 1: NYC Hispanic/Latinx Heritage Month 2023

October 1: Hispanic/Latinx Heritage Month 2023: Edit-a-thon!

You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for our Hispanic/Latinx Heritage Month 2023: Edit-a-thon!, with in-person at Prime Produce Guild Hall in Hell's Kitchen, Manhattan.

It is being held in the middle of National Hispanic Heritage Month (Sep 15–Oct 15).

Some past local edit-a-thons touching on this area have included the two editions of Wikipedia:Meetup/WikiArte at MoMA in 2015-16, and the CUNY LaGuardia translat-a-thons held annually since 2018.

Meeting info:

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Wikidata weekly summary #595

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Administrators' newsletter – September 2023

News and updates for administrators from the past month (September 2023).

Guideline and policy news

  • An RfC is open regarding amending the paid-contribution disclosure policy to add the following text: Any administrator soliciting clients for paid Wikipedia-related consulting or advising services not covered by other paid-contribution rules must disclose all clients on their userpage.

Technical news

  • Administrators can now choose to add the user's user page to their watchlist when changing the usergroups for a user. This works both via Special:UserRights and via the API. (T272294)

Arbitration

Miscellaneous


Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 14:41, 4 October 2023 (UTC)

Hello, Fuzheado. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Sexual Assault Kit Initiative".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. When you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Hey man im josh (talk) 16:41, 6 October 2023 (UTC)

Hello, Fuzheado. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "About Time: Fashion and Duration".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. When you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Hey man im josh (talk) 16:41, 6 October 2023 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #597

RM of October 2023 Gaza–Israel conflict

Hello Fuzheado,

Do you think your analysis of sources in this closing[1] amounted to a WP:SUPERVOTE? You seem to have done new research that wasn't in the discussion (for example, some of the news articles you cited like NBC was never cite by anyone in the discussion). In the discussion there seems to have been a preference for "2023 Gaza-Israel war".

Your analysis seems to be misleading, consider this:

** USA Today - [2] (Israel-Hamas War in your inbox)

I don't think the label of a button on the USA Today website counts as "coverage". The USA Today seems to prefer "Israel War" instead. This is also the first time someone presented USA Today in the discussion, so that gives no one a chance to respond to it. Again, if you had new evidence to present, shouldn't you have voted instead of closed the discussion?

Thanks and I mean no offense :-) VR talk 23:59, 10 October 2023 (UTC)

Also, much of the source analysis came only 4 hours before your close[3], not giving a chance to respond (and it weirdly came from an account whose very first edit on wikipedia was to provide that analysis). So perhaps you can consider re-opening the discussion so that that analysis can be responded to? VR talk 00:06, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
No, I do not consider what I did a supervote. I showed all the work and completely explained my reasoning, which was built on the other observations already put forth, especially the research from WP:RS by DFlhb. The addition of the "new" citations were simply to confirm/reaffirm the observations already presented so we don't prolong a discussion that had run its course. It would be unwise to keep the RM open longer when it's clear that "war" was the consensus term and all the news sources were quickly converging on "Israel-Hamas war." I believe you've been editing long enough to know about WP:NOTBURO. I consider this one of those situations where the consensus is quite straightforward given the three things I explained. Thanks. - Fuzheado | Talk 00:23, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
I agree that WP:NOTBURO, but allowing more time for discussion isn't bureaucracy. The analysis by DFlhb had been made a mere 11 hours before your close and I was doing research online for my own evidence (it takes a while) when I saw the discussion had been closed. I agree that "war" was indeed the consensus term, but discussion had not converged on what it should have been preceded by. It seems most users preferred "Gaza-Israel". Of course, RM is not a poll and we choose titles based on WP:COMMONNAME but IMHO the commonname discussion was still quite ongoing when you closed.VR talk 01:30, 11 October 2023 (UTC)

Hello Fuzheado,

I have a question about the result of the vote, too, and I hope neither of you two will mind if I add it to this talk page section. You have explained your decision in detail, which I appreciate. However, several users (including myself) asked to follow WP:AND, and you ignored that in your decision. The title you have chosen goes against that guideline, even though it is an option that is used in some RS that you mention in your summary. Could you explain why you chose to do so? Thank you. Renerpho (talk) 03:36, 11 October 2023 (UTC)

For clarity, the preferred title, according to WP:AND, would have been "2023 Hamas–Israel war". Renerpho (talk) 03:39, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
Thanks for stating the inquiry in more detail. As mentioned in the close, the overwhelming majority of WP:RS use this exact term in the order given. This is rather clear from the survey of the overwhelming major news sources initiated by DFlhb. Compared to the more more overarching policies of WP:COMMONNAME and WP:NCEVENTS for this particular subject, the WP:AND policy is relatively more generic and acknowledges that it is not rigid: "It is generally best to list topics in alphabetical order... However, when a conventional or more logical ordering exists, it should be used instead." As a veteran of numerous WP:NCEVENTS admin actions and articles related to breaking news, I can say I rarely see WP:AND being mentioned, much less being a driving force behind article naming. Note that this is all a current state of affairs and could change over time, as the situation is fluid. Consensus today may not be the same as it will be in a week, so I will take no offense if another RM discussion happens as the conventions change. Thanks. - Fuzheado | Talk 09:45, 11 October 2023 (UTC)

@Fuzheado: I also have some notes, given how this RM was closed early, and seemingly closed in a manner that sided with a minority position within the actual discussion. It appears that there was considerably more support for other titles in the discussion along the lines of Gaza-Israel or Israel-Gaza that would not have introduced problems, but the close instead chose a title that was suggested but also strongly argued against in the discussion. The closing explanation itself also appears to be based more on independent reasoning that an assessment of consensus within the actual discussion - hence, presumably, the suggestions of super voting above. Even allowing for some latitude on this front, the source analysis appears circumstantial and flawed. The Guardian link, as one example, was to an opinion piece. More generally, the summation failed to grasp the changing direction of travel of the sourcing. While it was assumed to be a purely Hamas event to begin with, this information quickly changed. That is now outdated and inaccurate. RSP sources like the BBC, Al Jazeera, Reuters, Time (and Times of Israel) now clearly have "Israel-Gaza war" feeds, so the page is now heading off in a direction away from the RSP. Iskandar323 (talk) 08:54, 11 October 2023 (UTC)

I don't believe in relitigating discussions after a close, but the same Time article you link refers to the "Israel-Hamas war" in the article body; another Time article uses "Israel-Hamas War" in the headline, and refers to "Israel’s war against Hamas" in the body. Reuters, which you also cite, almost exclusively uses the term "Israel-Hamas" (for context, they used "Israel-Gaza" to refer to the 2014 war), as you can see if you search both terms in quotation marks on Google and restrict the search to reuters.com. Here's Reuters using "Israel-Hamas": [4][5][6][7][8][9][10]; their live feed is titled "Israel and Hamas at war" (link), and in the body of articles they use terms like "the war between Israel and Palestinian Hamas militants" (link) and "Israel's war with Hamas" (link). Similarly, The Guardian uses "Israel-Hamas war" almost exclusively, as can be independently verified. The BBC seems to use both terms (e.g. [11][12][13]). DFlhb (talk) 10:32, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
It remains imprecise IMO, but I guess the language is still in flux. Iskandar323 (talk) 10:37, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
As mentioned in the close, determining what is minorty/majority in such a fast paced discussion and series of events is incredibly hard, if not futile. Given the point in time the RM was initiated, much had changed in the intervening hours - it was first an attack, then a conflict, then it was a "war" declared by the PM, then it was officially a declaration of war from the Israeli cabinet. News sources were reacting quickly as to whether the scope of involvement was Gazan, Hamas, or Palestinian (or even Lebanese), and labels were evolving by the hour. The RM discussion reflected different waves of news hitting the public, so any evaluation of consensus has to take this morphing of information into account. Therefore, it was clear that not only the data but the opinions towards the end of the discussion were converging on this WP:COMMONNAME and that it was in the public's and Wikipedia's interest to reflect the consensus on "war" sooner than later.
That said, let's address some of the sources you bring up.
  • The Guardian - The link was but one example from their site. If you look right now, the very first words on their front page read "Israel-Hamas war" and links to [14]. The main war reporting page reads: "Israel-Hamas war live: reports emerge of ‘massacre’ at Kfar Aza kibbutz; Hezbollah claims missile attack on Israel." [15]
  • Al Jazeera - It is indeed somewhat contradictory. They use "Israel-Hamas war" in the prose [16] though you see "Israel-Gaza war" in the main section heading. The landing page says "Israel-Hamas war" [17] and a day 5 report says "Israel-Hamas war: List of key events, day 5" [18]. In fact, they use yet a third term of "Israel-Palestine conflict" as well. We could still consider this evidence that "Israel-Hamas war" still dominates in the journalistic prose, but that the strength of Al Jazeera as evidence is slightly weaker because of the other uses.
  • Reuters - The link you provided only shows the term "Israel-Gaza conflict," whereas the link I provided shows the exact term, and still remains in the primary position on the front page of Reuters: "Israel-Hamas war: What you need to know right now" [19]. So I'm not sure why you have specifically ignored that.
  • BBC - As noted in the RM close, the BBC prefers "Israel-Gaza war" phrasing. However, I will note that this specific war labeling cannot be found on the front page of the BBC News site and nor in any news prose that I could find by browsing. So the link you pointed out and that I found previously ("Israel-Gaza War: Your Questions Answered") was used only in a video title/headline. We should then consider BBC's use of this term as limited in usefuless.
I also examined a few other cases as a sanity check:
  • NPR - In re-checking National Public radio in the United States, it seems they have just started using Israel-Hamas War: "An update on the Israel-Hamas war from the ground in Tel Aviv," October 10, 20235:36 PM ET, Heard on All Things Considered. (NPR)
  • Haaretz - They are using an even wider variety of terms. Originally using "Hamas-Israel war" they now also use "Israel-Gaza War" [20] and "Gaza War" in headlines. [21]
  • Bloomberg - They seem to be using Israel-Hamas war: "For more on the Israel-Hamas war, click here." [22]
  • Google News - The Google News topic label uses "2023 Israel-Hamas war." Though there may be a bit of citogenesis here, as Google uses Wikipedia/Wikidata extensively for their current events and search engine metadata. But it's still interesting to see if they are expressing something different. [23]
Thanks. - Fuzheado | Talk 10:41, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
Thank you. Your detailed assessment of the sources is reassuring. Iskandar323 (talk) 10:53, 11 October 2023 (UTC)

This Month in GLAM: September 2023





Headlines
  • Argentina report: Disseminating open culture
  • Brazil report: Amazonia on Wiki
  • Colombia report: Wikidata and the editing of Ibero-American scientific journals
  • France report: Celebrating Rugby Herstory and History in Toulouse; Les Lorraines sans pages
  • India report: Wikimedia Commons Contest connects Pune citizens with the rivers Mula & Mutha
  • Italy report: 10,000 institutions on the Wikimedia projects
  • New Zealand report: West Coast Wikipedian at Large
  • Poland report: GLAM-Wiki educational activities
  • Portugal report: With multiple events, September was a busy month for Wikimedia Portugal
  • Sweden report: Wikipedia in education; Continuation at Swedish folk high schools; Wikipedians at the Bookfair
  • UK report: A new WIR and a very old book
  • USA report: Wikimedia New York City Election 2023; San Diego/September 2023; Climate Change and Food Safety
  • Structured Data on Wikimedia Commons report: OpenRefine and Wikimedia Commons: train the trainer course participants and two surveys
  • Wiki Loves Living Heritage report: European photo contest finalists, Local Contexts Wikiproject at GLAMhack
  • WMF GLAM report: Wikisource Loves Manuscripts, ICOM outreach, Flickr Foundation partnership, OpenRefine adoption, new sources in The Wikipedia Library, Image Description Month events, and the GLAM Wiki Conference
  • Calendar: October's GLAM events
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Wiki.NYC Pavilion for Open House New York (Oct 21–22) and Wikidata Day (Oct 29)

October 21–22: Wiki.NYC Pavilion for Open House New York @ Prime Produce
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You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for our Wiki.NYC Pavilion for Open House New York at Prime Produce in Hell's Kitchen, Manhattan. The event will feature several interactive exhibits highlighting the "wiki way" for New York City

October 29: Wikidata Day in New York City
2023 Wikidata Day NYC flyer

Additionally, you are invited to Wikidata Day in New York City at Butler Library, Columbia University, in celebration of Wikidata's 11th birthday. This coincides with the online/global WikidataCon 2023 and is a sequel to Wikidata Day 2022. The event will feature a Harlem Arts & Culture edit-a-thon, spotlight sessions, lightning talks, and cake!

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Wikidata weekly summary #598

Wikidata weekly summary #599

Lewiston and editorial guides

I wonder if we shouldn't create a more specific template for events of this kind for both the article and the talkpage, where we see a rush to post a name, any name, however thinly sourced, for a criminal POI/suspect/perpetrator. I had to intervene when the Gilgo Beach suspect was arrested, for instance, to protect the article and to get editors focused on BLP compliance The rumors were shown to be correct, but if one out of 20 of these turns out to be wrong, it can be irreparably harmful to post a name based on rumor. It might cite a few policies and guidelines for editors unfamiliar. with rapidly unfolding events. Beyond that, I wonder if we shouldn't develop some enhanced guidelines similar to MEDRS for BLP-related emerging events that are being rapidly edited. Acroterion (talk) 17:22, 26 October 2023 (UTC).

It's not a bad idea. I was also thinking we keep going through the same set of issues each time. We have WP:BLPCRIME, WP:BLPNAME and WP:PERP, but we might need a new WP:BLPPERP guideline that combines aspects of these with more firm examples of the range situations we see. What happens when individuals are persons of interest, BOLO, have arrest warrants issued, suspects, arrested, indicted, charged, arraigned, convicted, et al. And in what situations do we have the name or personal details incorporated. - Fuzheado | Talk 17:38, 26 October 2023 (UTC)
I have a rather wordy draft of an article header at User:Acroterion/currentcrime. The problem with talkpage headers is that nobody ever reads them, so I'm not quite so convinced that one will do much good - the AE BLP header is probably as much as we need. . I may start an outline of a guideline/policy proposal when I feel a little smarter, I got flu and Covid vaccinations today and am a little loopy. Perhaps a discussion is merited at VPP too. Acroterion (talk) 00:26, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
Looks pretty good though I'd like to see some experimenting with cutting down the prose for readability. Thinking about this more, it would be interesting to better document the best practices we've adopted for some set of representative articles. One that comes to mind that had a "slow burn" so we could better see the community's collective though process is 2022 University of Idaho killings. It was a cold case for a while, then details started emerging about a person of interest, to finally a standoff, arrest, and arraignment. What debates did we have then, and when did we determine the threshold to include the name of the accused? If we sample a few other articles of this type, would we see consistency or not? - Fuzheado | Talk 08:45, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
It;s too long. It could coexist with the {{current}} template for BLP-related events and just be cut down to emphasize the potential for real-world harm, with a few links, perhaps to a yet-to-be-developed BLPPERP, and let the other template do what it does. I agree that we should look at how these events played out on WP in the past, whether slow or fast, and craft language accordingly, to which we can link for a lengthier and fuller explanation. Acroterion (talk) 12:08, 27 October 2023 (UTC)

Welcome to the 600th Wikidata Weekly Summary!

Hussein II

You've just closed Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 October 24#Hussein II as delete both. While there was unanimous consensus to delete Hussein II of Jordan so that's not at issue. I disagree however regarding Hussein II - I recommended retargetting to a Tunisian (in modern terms) referred to by this name, the only other comment did not address that suggestion at all, speaking only to why it shouldn't be a redirect to the Jordanian crown prince. I don't see how this is a consensus. Thryduulf (talk) 12:37, 1 November 2023 (UTC)

That's a fair point. I've modified it to reflect the retargeting and made the edit. Let me know if there's any problems. - Fuzheado | Talk 13:51, 1 November 2023 (UTC)
Thanks, no more issues I can see. Thryduulf (talk) 14:12, 1 November 2023 (UTC)
@Thryduulf: I see this as an issue with the way you've formatted your !vote. At first glance, this discussion looks like there are 3 !votes to delete and 1 !vote to retarget. One would have to look very closely to see otherwise. If you keep your recommendations to one bullet point, it would help the closer see that there are actually only 2 !votes to delete all and 1 split !vote. -- Tavix (talk) 14:27, 1 November 2023 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #601

Administrators' newsletter – November 2023

News and updates for administrators from the past month (October 2023).

Administrator changes

added 0xDeadbeef
readded Tamzin
removed Dennis Brown

Interface administrator changes

added Pppery
removed

Guideline and policy news

Technical news

Arbitration

  • Eligible editors are invited to self-nominate themselves from 12 November 2023 until 21 November 2023 to stand in the 2023 Arbitration Committee elections.
  • Xaosflux, RoySmith and Cyberpower678 have been appointed to the Electoral Commission for the 2023 Arbitration Committee Elections. BusterD is the reserve commissioner.
  • Following a motion, the contentious topic designation of Prem Rawat has been struck. Actions previously taken using this contentious topic designation are still in force.
  • Following several motions, multiple topic areas are no longer designated as a contentious topic. These contentious topic designations were from the Editor conduct in e-cigs articles, Liancourt Rocks, Longevity, Medicine, September 11 conspiracy theories, and Shakespeare authorship question cases.
  • Following a motion, remedies 3.1 (All related articles under 1RR whenever the dispute over naming is concerned), 6 (Stalemate resolution) and 30 (Administrative supervision) of the Macedonia 2 case have been rescinded.
  • Following a motion, remedy 6 (One-revert rule) of the The Troubles case has been amended.
  • An arbitration case named Industrial agriculture has been opened. Evidence submissions in this case close 8 November.

Miscellaneous


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Nov 15: WikiWednesday Salon + Wikimedia NYC Executive Director job

November 15: WikiWednesday @ Prime Produce

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Wikidata weekly summary #602

A WCNA barncompass for you!

WCNA 2023 Barncompass
Thank you for all your advisory work behind the scenes, which ensured that the conference went as smoothly as it could be. Not only that, you uploaded plenty of photos related to Toronto which help illustrate the people, places and events in the city. For all these reasons, I am awarding this barncompass to you. (Barncompass originated in Wikivoyage as a response to Wikipedia's barnstar. Since everyone travelled long distance for the conference and would have no doubt pulled out a map app at some point, awarding a barncompass is probably as fitting as a barnstar.) OhanaUnitedTalk page 14:00, 15 November 2023 (UTC)