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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Confluence: The Journal of Graduate Liberal Studies

Hi, with all respect for all your efforts, but the policy that you linked to in your closing statement clearly says that non-admin closures are only appropriate in cases of clear consensus and "no consensus" means that there is no clear consensus... --Randykitty (talk) 00:21, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

I thought the same before closing. But the AfD was relisted three times and a fourth time wouldn't have changed things. You are welcome to open a new AfD. --LlamaAl (talk) 00:26, 15 February 2013 (UTC)
Out of curiosity: up till some months ago, non-admin closures were not very frequent and always limited to clear "keep" decisions. But recently I see more and more closures of "no consensus" decisions (and even "keep" closures of contentious debates). Are we (finally) running out of enough admins to do things properly? Or has community consensus changed and can non-admins now do "no consensus" closes? In the former case, we should hope that the current discussions about RFA soon bear fruit. In the latter case, we should re-word the policy guideline accordingly. --Randykitty (talk) 00:43, 15 February 2013 (UTC)
Well, WP:NAC is just a essay. Editors who do bad calls at AfD's can be restricted from performing NAC's by the community. --LlamaAl (talk) 00:45, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

Hello,

Yesterday, I tried to update the content of Camoplast Solideal page, but it was deleted and I didn't know why before I saw your memo today. Sorry, I haven't notice your memo yesterday and I thought there was a bug with Wikipedia. That's why I've done the same thing twice.

In fact, the company is no longer named Camoplast, but Camoplast Solideal. Would you mind explaining me how I could create Camoplast Solideal page on Wikipedia? Currently, when I try to create it, its telling me that Camoplast Solideal is redirected to Camoplast page. In fact, it should be the opposite (Camoplast page should be redirected to Camoplast Solideal page).

Also, I don't know if it's possible, but I was wondering if you could restore the text I tried to publish yesterday about Camoplast Solideal, to avoid me to type it all over again.

Best Regards, --Cathroy (talk) 19:44, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

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  • Development
    • Deployment to English Wikipedia
    • Fix various minor bugs in client, including watchlist toggle with preference to default to always show Wikidata edits
    • Added the new Baso Minangkabau Wikipedia (min)
    • Fixed wrong revision of statements being shown in diff and old revision view
    • Diff visualization for claims (simple version for main snak)
    • Diff visualization for claims (extended version for references, qualifiers, ranks)
    • Tooltip that notifies about the license your contributions will be covered by while editing (can be disabled by each user)
    • Started with valueview refactoring
    • Started with user interface handling of deleted properties
    • Started with refactoring of local partial entity lookup
    • Started with refactoring of toolbar usage in jQuery.wikibase view widgets
    • Finished improvement on jQuery.wikibase.claimview’s edit mode handling
    • Improved search by using entity selector in search field instead of normal MediaWiki search field
    • More work on Lua-based templates for entities
    • Specified the capabilities of the query language we need
    • Created query object
    • Proper bot-flagging of edits (bugzilla:44857)
    • Use of ID to directly address an item or property
    • Search should give more of the complete matches now
    • Special:ItemByTitle should work for canonical namespaces and later on for local namespaces
    • More robust format for notifications of changes on the repository to the client
    • Started work on refactoring API and autocomments code
    • Started to maintain documentation of configuration options in git
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DYK for John Hamilton (American Revolution)

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And again; I'll look into it. Cheers, —Theopolisme (talk) 23:14, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

Dark Fiber Community AfD

I'm highly amused that your close copied, word-for-word, my response to the AfD. Lukeno94 (talk) 20:56, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

WP:REUSE. Well, it was the first time I had to close with the Procedural close rationale , and your response fitted perfectly as an explanation for the closure. --LlamaAl (talk) 23:56, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
  • I didn't have any issue with it, I was just amused, that's all. :) Lukeno94 (talk) 08:40, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ceramic chemistry

You may want to reconsider the above AfD closure. If you look closely you see that the Supports are meant to be Deletes, so there are five keeps and five deletes, including the nom. I know why you closed it; the supports blend in with the keeps, but this one should be an admin no consensus close, not a keep close. Vacation9 00:22, 21 February 2013 (UTC)

Oops, I misunderstood the supports and thought there was a clear consensus. I have reverted the closure. --LlamaAl (talk) 00:23, 21 February 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Best of Me (Christina Aguilera song)

Hi can you please revert your relisting of this discussion because it hasn't ran for a full seven days (it's only been six days, 23:00 15 Feb—00:00 22 Feb). WP:RELIST says that it should be open for 7 days before relisting it in the logs. Which is why an admin hasn't come about yet and closed it as "merge". Thanks Till 02:11, 22 February 2013 (UTC)

 Done. Althought I think it wasn't necessary. --LlamaAl (talk) 17:16, 22 February 2013 (UTC)

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DYK for Khawabi

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My Edit To 7500(film)

The information was unsourced. Thats why I removed it. Please revoke my warning. 96.240.138.139 (talk) 02:42, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kiwijet (2nd nomination)

Hi there, I appreciate the work you do over in Afd but I'm not entirely sure this close falls under the remit of a non-admin closure. I was wondering if you could explain your close for the above article. Funny Pika! 22:58, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

Sure. I closed it on the basis of WP:NTEMP and the notability demonstrated by many reliable sources. --LlamaAl (talk) 23:26, 23 February 2013 (UTC)
The above reasons are suitable for a vote in an AfD, not for closure. Non-admin closure should be avoided for evenly balanced debates. Xxanthippe (talk) 00:20, 24 February 2013 (UTC).
That debate was not even close to be balanced. The keep side defended the notability of the subject while the delete camp never rebutted their arguments. If you find my closure inappropiate, feel free to revert it. Regards. --LlamaAl (talk) 00:34, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
I counted 4 keeps and 3 deletes. Please confine non-admin closures to clear-cut cases. Xxanthippe (talk) 00:38, 24 February 2013 (UTC).
Although AfD's are not based on !votes and WP:NOTDEMOCRACY, thanks for your advice. --LlamaAl (talk) 00:41, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for the response. I agree that Afd's should not be purely based on !votes but non-admin closures are still restricted to unambiguous keep outcomes. In the above discussion I don't believe anyone rebuked the WP:CRYSTAL argument made, which should technically override WP:GNG as per WP:NOT. Given that neither side provided any link evidence to support their view, a decision would've been made accounting both. This I believe is beyond the remit of non-admin closure. Since I've contributed to this discussion, I would prefer that the original closer reopen and relist this for further comment. Funny Pika! 14:44, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Kiwijet. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Funny Pika! 20:26, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Black Anvil

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    • Fixed bug where incorrect statements revision was shown in diff view
    • Added first version of Linked Data interface (RDF/XML); will be accessible from Special:EntityData
    • Updated the demo system
    • More work towards using Solr for our search
    • More investigation and fixes of search issues
    • Fixed several bugs in the entity selector and improved its behavior
    • Worked on refactoring of how our widgets use the toolbar
    • Worked on implementation of missing data model components in JavaScript
    • A lot of bug fixing
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    • Rollout of phase 1 (language links) on all remaining Wikipedias is still planned for March 6
    • Next update on wikidata.org is also planned for March 6. This will have bugfixes and if all goes well string as a new available data type.
    • Proposal was made to the Hungarian, Hebrew and Italian Wikipedias to be the first batch to use phase 2 of Wikidata (infoboxes). Scheduled timeframe for this is end of March
    • d:Wikidata:Database reports has some useful reports like the list of most used properties
    • The interwiki shortcut :d was changed to always use www in the resulting link (to prevent editing issues on other URLs).
    • The list of available properties is growing and a whole bunch of new ones are being discussed
    • Reasonator gives you a nice adapted view of an item about a person
    • Items by cat helps you find missing items in a certain Wikipedia category
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DYK nomination of United States biological defense program

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LlamaAl, it's been well over a week since this was posted, and as this is your nomination, it's up to you to respond to it. I hope you're able to do so soon, before the nomination is closed because it appears to have been abandoned. Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 05:36, 7 March 2013 (UTC)
Well, I don't have time to address those issues, and I'm not the article's creator. I withdrawn my nomination. Sorry for the inconvenience. --LlamaAl (talk) 20:55, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

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Dupe vote

FYI ~ Amory (u • t • c) 03:24, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

Oops, thank you :) --LlamaAl (talk) 00:34, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

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List of UFC champions interim titles

You recently reverted my edits on the List of UFC Champions page regarding interim titles.

First off, i'm totally fine with this, wasn't sure if I liked the added info or not myself. I was merely expanding on the work done by someone else because I thought the information could have been presented in a less confusing manor, kinda like when I turned your "Most successful title defenses" table into the current "Most wins in title bouts" table. (Sorry, I was bragging there. And I wanted to be sure you took this I.P.er seriously)

I thought the added info was unnecessary to begin with, but their revisions (13:39, 8 March 2013‎ 70.95.150.45) went unchanged for a couple days so I figured I better improve it and expand it beyond the welterweight division. This is why i'm confused. I fail to see how the version you reverted to is better than the changes I made. The info on GSP and Condit's interim titles is both confusing and, frankly, sloppy looking. And, if this is the way you're choosing to go with it, are you planning to update the other interim titles to match? Just my opinion, but I prefer older (original) version prior any these edits.

Thank you for your time and thank you for watching over this article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.244.33.83 (talk) 20:38, 10 March 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for trying to improve the list. I didn't revert your edits because i didn't like them -- it was because they were original research. You can add sourced information and your changes will be welcomed. It is a featured list, so it represents the best from Wikipedia. Regards. --LlamaAl (talk) 02:06, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
As I mentioned, I don't really care about my edits, I only created them cause I thought it was a better alternative then the version you reverted to. I mean, bullet points within the title defense column, really? That looks terrible. How can you prefer that? And how are those not original research? It's the same info I re-wrote (though I frazed it better). I'm just concerned with the appearance of the page and I disagree with the current welterweight layout, that's all.98.244.33.83 (talk) 18:23, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
BTW, other then the fact that I didn't site references (It was late, I was tired, and I didn't feel like looking them all up at the time), do YOU think that the info I added regarding the reasons for the interim titles should be added? Just curious. If you do, I'll go ahead and redo it with the references. If you don't approve I won't bother. I could care less either way.98.244.33.83 (talk) 18:28, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
Hey, take a look at WP:Article ownership. You can do whatever you want, but you have to add references. --LlamaAl (talk) 22:23, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

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Article Feedback deployment

Hey LlamaAl; I'm dropping you this note because you've used the article feedback tool in the last month or so. On Thursday and Friday the tool will be down for a major deployment; it should be up by Saturday, failing anything going wrong, and by Monday if something does :). Thanks, Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 21:43, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

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    • Development
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    • More work on implementing the simple inclusion syntax that will be 1 way to access Wikidata data on Wikipedia
    • More work on Lua (the second way to access Wikidata data on Wikipedia)
    • Added parser page property to hold entity id in client. This fixes:
      • bugzilla:45037 - don’t show edit link if noexternallanglinks has suppressed all Wikidata links
      • bugzilla:44536 - have the edit link go directly to the Q### pages, instead of Special:ItemByTitle which shall make the link be more reliable and work for all namespaces
    • Selenium tests for deleted-property-handling
    • Selenium tests for multiline references
    • Selenium tests for add-sitelinks-from-client
    • Selenium tests for Entity-Selector-as-Searchbox
    • Selenium tests for language-table
    • Implemented in-process caching for entities
    • Lua support to access the repo data and implement getEntity (so you can use stuff like entity = mw.wikibase.getEntity("Q1459") in Lua modules)
    • rebuildTermSearchKey is now ready for production (this still needs to be run but once done it will make search case-insensitive)
    • Improved error reports from the API
    • Ground work for better edit summaries from the API
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    • Added debug functionality to be able to investigate why it takes longer than it should for Wikidata changes to show up on recent changes and watchlists on Wikipedia
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    • Worked on fixing a bug related to deleted properties where the UI would display wrong information
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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Siberian Republic

Good day! ru:Википедия:К восстановлению/18 февраля 2013 - Article ru:Сибирская республика restored to the Russian Wikipedia. Can you restored an article Siberian Republic on English Wikipedia? Vyacheslav84 (talk) 08:52, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

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  • Development
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      • Improved references. They can now have multiple lines. This should make references much more useful. You can now have one reference with for example values for each of the properties "book", "author", "page" to describe one source.
      • Fixed the prev/next links in diff view (bugzilla:45821)
      • d:Special:EntitiesWithoutLabel now lets you filter by language and entity type
    • Widget to add language links on the Wikipedias directly: added setting to enable/disable it per wiki and made it available for logged-in users only
    • Widget to add language links on the Wikipedias directly: improved layout / size
    • Made it so that the “edit links” link on Wikipedia is also shown when the corresponding item only has a link to this one language and no other languages
    • Submitted improved Apache config patch to make wikidata.org always redirect to www.wikidata.org, which is awaiting code review and deployment.
    • Improved the script that is responsible for taking Wikidata changes to the Wikipedias
    • Added a few ways to better debug the script responsible for taking Wikidata changes to the Wikipedias. This should help with investigating why some changes take way to long to show up on the Wikipedias.
    • Started work on automatically adding edited items to the user’s watchlist (according to preferences)
    • Finished script for rebuilding search keys, so we can finally get case insensitive matches in a lot of places
    • Support for multi-line references in diff view
    • Selenium tests for inclusion syntax
    • Improved parser function (that will be used to access Wikidata data on the Wikipedias) to accept property ID or label
    • Increased isolation of data model component to increase clarity and visibility of bad dependencies
    • Worked on schema access in the SQLStore (of the query component)
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Barnstar

The Original Barnstar
In recognition of your consistently solid work, in WP:MMA and throughout the encyclopedia. Keep up the great work! CaSJer (talk) 21:52, 24 March 2013 (UTC)

Thank you, that's very kind. --LlamaAl (talk) 01:19, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

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