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Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia! Excirial^{(Contact me,Contribs)} 18:35, 10 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

review of Array_DBMS article

Hi Excirial, first, I'm deeply impressed about the rapid response on my submission. Also about the accuracy of spotting where parts of the article stem from: it is a contribution I have written earlier, as can be seen from the author quote (Peter Baumann) preceding that article. Question: Is it not OK to use own work? The choices on the submission page have made me believe that, but I'm a newbie and ready to take any advice. Should this quote not be proper I can rewrite it of course. thanks, Peter — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pebau.grandauer (talk • contribs) 21:36, 10 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hello there Peter,

Before talking about the article itself, i would mention that i am quite impressed with the article itself as well - most first time AFC submissions barely resemble an article, let alone a decent, long article. I see that another admin removed the article on the basis of the copyright violation which (While correct) would be somewhat inconvenient if you wish to continue the article. For now i restored the article and moved it back to User:Pebau.grandauer/Array DBMS

As for the article itself: Using an article you wrote earlier is, based on the context, allowed or discouraged. If you were writing an autobiography it wouldn't be allowed to use a source you wrote yourself, but in this case i see no issues with using the source in question (Its a well written academic paper, so it definitely qualifies as a reliable source.

The problem at hand, however, is copyright. The PDF in question contains a copyright reserved marker, and even if it wasn't explicitly stated there US law dictates that copyright is automatically granted on all written texts. For legal reasons Wikipedia itself cannot accept copyrighted content, as using it would constitute a copyright violation. Due to the way Wikipedia works only GFDL and CC-BY-SA copyrighted content (Or compatible licenses) can be directly copied into Wikipedia itself.

How to get around this? Paraphrasing the article is the way to go in these cases. External sources can be used as a reference or inspiration for the text, as long as they aren't copied word-for-word into Wikipedia. Do be aware that close paraphrasing (Changing a word or two every few lines) is not sufficient as far as copyright is concerned, since the texts would be to similar. But with some restructuring and rewording of the sentences the entire copyright issue should be voided.

With kind regards, Excirial^{(Contact me,Contribs)} 14:52, 11 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Peter, you can sign your comments automatically using four tildes ~~~~. I think what Excirial says sums it up perfectly. Our servers are in Florida, so we are bound by US copyright law, and cannot repost the text as it stands. Some suggestions:

If you control the website, you can change the licence to PD or CC-BY-SA 3.0 License and the GFDL
There are other ways to donate copyrighted text to Wikipedia, as described here; please note that simply asserting on the talk page that you are the owner of the copyright isn't sufficient.
Otherwise, you have to rewrite as a (not too close) paraphrase

It's unfortunate that on the Internet Wikipedia is about the only site that applies the law. Jimfbleak - talk to me? 16:32, 11 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Excirial, Jim,

first, thanks for the speedy un-deletion :) Indeed, this makes it easier to continue. I will follow your advice and rephrase the article to become sufficiently distinct. To both of you, thanks a lot for your patience (from your talks I can see that you have to explain these basics to lots of people beside me) and your assistance, greatly appreciated!

cheers,

Pebau.grandauer (talk) 19:05, 11 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

PS: Hope you have turned on watching this page, as I have no idea (yet) how to crosspost to several recipients simultaneously.

Hello there Peter,

I don't tend watch other users talk pages since my watchlist is already quite stuffed, and because some talk pages receive a lot of (Non to related) traffic that would cause the page to pop up. Just a note for the PS: section - there are multiple ways to post reactions to multiple people. Personally i prefer to copy-n-paste the entire section back and forth between pages, since that assures that the conversation is always up to date and readable for everyone (Whereas only placing responses on other people's talk pages would lead to a fragmented conversation.

Other editors prefer other methods - some just post a reply on every involved parties talk page. Alternatively you can place the Talkback template on another users page to notify them that you left a response for them on your own page (Which is convenient in its own rights, since you can keep the entire conversation on a single page). All methods are really fine - in the end it is just a means to make sure that another editor managed to find your reply. :) Excirial^{(Contact me,Contribs)} 21:16, 11 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation

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Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia! Excirial^{(Contact me,Contribs)} 19:30, 12 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

OGC WCPS page, again :)

Hi Excirial,

it's http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_creation/Web_Coverage_Processing_Service again: think I have learnt that standards texts cannot be quoted, so I have rewritten the passages I believe have offended review. Can we give it another try please?

Thanks for your patience, Pebau.grandauer (talk) 14:39, 14 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Guess you might have already seen the "Article accepted" banner on your talk page, but yet, that is definitely well written and not to closely paraphrased. The only direct match i could find was "digital geospatial information representing space-varying phenomena" in some sources, but i would say that goes into the "1 line doesn't matter" bin, especially since i don't see how it could be altered without the text becoming unclear or losing its meaning.

In other words - Good job! :) Excirial^{(Contact me,Contribs)} 20:09, 15 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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I, and the rest of the hosts, would be more than happy to answer any questions you have! SarahStierch (talk) 03:06, 20 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

thanks, great hint! I'll almost certainly come by with questions having a cup of tea at some time. Pebau.grandauer (talk) 07:14, 20 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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