User talk:Shultz III/Archive 1

Archive 1: Topics 1-50

Welcome

Hi and welcome to wikipedia. I hope you like it and decide to stay. Here are some handy links for newcomers.

Also you can sign your name on talk pages and vote pages with three tildes like this ~~~, and your name with a time stamp with four like this ~~~~. If you have any questions, ask me on my talk page. Father Howabout1 ^{Talk to me!} 16:08, 2005-08-13 (UTC)

August 16

Also, every minute event. The Ramones first concert. That had to be awesome. Sorry I missed it. But what about their second or third? Also, how about posting every date on which Jennifer Lopez got engaged to some poor clown? There's no end to it. I hope they have plenty of room on the TRS-80 or whatever it is that wikipedia runs on. :) Wahkeenah 04:12, 17 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

The Trash-80 is older than me, sorry. =) --Shultz III 04:19, 17 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

You're forgiven. I see that someone with no sense of humor took away your personal ad for your Mom. However, the 16th is almost over anyway. As far as murderers, commemorating their birth dates seems rather silly. It would be more fitting to commemorate their death dates. Like for example, the day that John Gacy was fried for killing 33 kids after raping and torturing them, the big meanie. Actually, he was euthanized, but it was a day of macabre celebration regardless. Wahkeenah 04:42, 17 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

"Supershadow" the next Director?

I read that George Lucas will direct Season 1, and "hand it off" to someone else during Seasons 2-4 (not sure what it said exactly). I think I read somewhere that a "Supershadow" will direct 2-4, and perhaps even film sequels (Episodes 7-9). Please post to User_Talk:Shultzii if you have any pertinent information.

SuperShadow is one of the biggest liars on the net. He has made hundreds of claims since the beginning of the prequels claiming he is friends with George Lucas himself. Shadow has even contradicted himself many times. The guy seems to really enjoy lying to the star wars community. There won't be a 7, 8, or 9, either directed by Lucas or SuperShadow, just this TV series. SuperShadow is just some loser named Mickey Suttle. He is hated at the worst level by most of us fans who know the truth behind his lies. Check out Supershadow for more information on this moron. Adamwankenobi 04:28, 20 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Ashley Nicholls

I can verify the name for you. I have several programmes with his name in. Matthew Platts 00:26, 28 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Siheung

If you were at Siheung train station, then you probably were not in Siheung Si. You would probably have been in Siheung Dong, which is in Seoul. I live in the city called Siheung with has no train station and is just outside of Bucheon. Masterhatch 05:27, 11 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Star Wars and requests

(Re: Wikipedia talk:Most wanted articles)

The easiest thing to do if you think an article should be created is to create it and then mark it as a stub. Otherwise, you can list your request on a subpage of Wikipedia:Requested articles. But all the Star Wars movies, of course, already have articles. See the bottom of Star Wars for links. If you type in the title you think an article should have, and you don't see that article, you can create a redirect to aid future readers. -- Beland 00:01, 15 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Exameter roads

Yes, I got the gist. The key difference is, all indications are they're not at all notable. Alai 23:46, 26 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

No, happily the standard isn't quite so high as that. :) Some 'general use' of the term/concept would probably be sufficient. (Lots of independent google hits, that sort of thing.) Alai 02:20, 27 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

There's no magic number of google hits. What's more important is that a number of distinct people seem to actually use the term, rather than just it seeming to be one person, or some very small number, trying to "promote" it. Obviously if it were a significant concept in a "real" publication that'd be a big help. Drop in on WP:AFD and you'll get a rough idea how people set their "notability" criteria in general. Alai 17:58, 27 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Recent redirects

Any particular reason for the redirects on New Orleans and Kim? They may be funny, but they're quite disruptive all the same. Kirill Lokshin 00:53, 16 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

See WP:CDVF :) Kirill Lokshin 00:55, 16 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

You are aware that Wikipedia is not a crystal ball, aren't you?

In any case, please try to keep such conjectures entirely away from existing articles. Kirill Lokshin 01:02, 16 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

He reminds me more of Dr. Evil than Palpatine (particularly due to his apparent ineptitude), but I suppose there are some similarities.

As far as better wikis are concerned, you can do all that at the Uncyclopedia, but I'm not certain if there's anything specific for conjectures. You might try asking at the reference desk for ideas. Kirill Lokshin 01:10, 16 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Ashley/Andrew

The feminine form of 'Andrew' is 'Andrea'; and, in fact, 'Andrea' is a nonsensical name, since it actually means 'manly'. 'Ashley' is traditionally a male name meaning 'clearing in the ash trees'; female forms are degenerative, but the name 'Ashley' as a female name has some popularity in the former confederacy. Matthew Platts 09:36, 30 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

SuperShadow

Hey! Thanks for the number! I'll give him a call, among other things... ;). And as for my old Adamwankenobi account. Well, I was blocked originally for a number of things. To see for yourself see User talk:Adamwankenobi. P.S. Sorry for my mistake on the SuperShadow talk page. I didn't realize it would be offensive. The Wookieepedian 22:50, 11 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Apology accepted. Saying "**** you" just sounds too strong, no matter who its for, at least for my eyes. Also, my inner consciousness (or perhaps my "inner child") thinks it's for me for the first two seconds or so. It's so strong even the darkest Sith Lords never say it. (Then again, it's probably to keep the SW movies enjoyable by broader demographics, which means higher box office & DVD sales.) I just wish it would get old. When did people start to -frequently- use that phrase anyway? --Shultz III 23:27, 11 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Yes! If he will talk, I will post my conversation with him on my talk page and will let you know. The Wookieepedian 23:05, 11 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I haven't got a chance to yet. But, I will, and it will be hilarious to hear what he has to say! And I will report it here. The Wookieepedian 07:23, 13 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Sandbox

Yeah, you thought I was stalking you back in August (the conversation is still on my talk page). This time I was following someone else's vandalism, which happened to lead to the sandbox. Adam Bishop 03:13, 28 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Please Cite sources

The edit you made to Taji, Iraq, changing 39th BCT to 239th BCT was not correct. According to the source I found (on a US Gov website)(see the article), it was the 39th BCT. While this is a minor point, it shows a very important fact - Always Cite Your Sources. That way, someone can come along later and check them. Sorry to dump on you, but this is basic. JesseW, the juggling janitor 05:57, 29 November 2005 (UTC)

SS

I had actually forgotten that. So, when you left your comment, I picked up the phone and dialed his number. The operator said that the call would have to be charged as long-distance, so I decided to bill his phone with the call. :D When I tried to do that, the operator then said that his phone number will not allow people to charge to his phone or call collect. Hmm... that tells something :D. So, I'm not about to pay to call that loser. Oh well. :( The Wookieepedian 09:07, 30 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Relocating

It is OK as long as people can easily find them. Talk page archiving is a normal thing, since it usually grows huge over time. Usually it is done by moving a whole continuous block into an archive page, so that the sequence of events can be seen. But this is not a formal rule. You can do it in ways convenient to you as long as the messages are not completeley deleted. mikka (t) 19:44, 30 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

re answerbag

yes, it seems that is how the vast majority of sites are displayed at Wikipedia. i.e. using a site's name without the .com I had previously run across Rediff.com and assumed that it was the case with all articles related to websites. Also I currently don't have a username there though I do enjoy reading the answers when I have the time and might create it soon since it has the same type of open endedness as Wikipedia is.

How about then redirecting the answerbag.com and putting the contents into answerbag? Tx Idleguy 12:19, 3 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Suicide methods

I removed your recent edit to suicide methods, see the talk page for my reasoning.--Clawed 10:14, 6 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Korean reunification

Hi, I assume that they just got to the url first because the site has nothing to do with reunification. Here are the results for a search in Korean: here.

Mithridates 04:27, 8 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Your name

When I was little (in 2nd-4th grade), I made up the word "thue" in my head when I looked at a Macintosh keyboard. I never knew it was a real word until you came along more than a decade later. Where did you get the name "Thue" from? --Shultz III 20:08, 8 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

My mother; it is a normal Danish name :). It actually means "small mound" in Danish, and is currently use by 281 living Danes. Thue | talk 20:19, 8 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

How do you know it's used by exactly 282 living Danes? I live in the US and I don't know how many people use my name.

Because the Danish government keeps a list of Danes - Since you don't know how many people have your name then I assume that the U.S. does not keep such a list? The info from Statistics Denmark is at [1]. Thue | talk 20:58, 8 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Pita pit

Well then, cite a source saying that, and make the language like "This source says blah blah blah". See WP:NPOV... it doesn't matter if a lot of people think something... it's still a POV. --W.marsh 17:23, 15 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

St. Petersburg (disambiguation) / Jimbo Wales

Please see the talk page for issues with your recent edit.

Sangaria expansion

Hi! Tried to see what I could get off the website by translating it through Google and I think we may have a serviceable stub. Not much to go on, I'm afraid. - Lucky 6.9 06:11, 29 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Talk:Graham's number

Please do not link hexation and above. These operations are not at all likely going to have articles. Georgia guy 18:12, 2 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Vanity Edits

I'm not currently getting my bot to look at article content as I don't have access to the article content. I intend to apply for toolserver access (which I may or may not get), which would then enable me to write another bot which could do that, I won't be applying for that access just yet but probably within the next few weeks. Thanks --pgk^(talk) 07:40, 5 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The communism vandal

As a part-time vandal-whacker, I agree that we need shortcuts to Wikipedia:Long term abuse/Wikipedia is Communism to add new account names as they are discovered and blocked. Thus I have created WP:WiC, WP:TCV, and even WP:☭ as meaningful redirects to his vandal profile. However a redirect from the article space is not appropriate for a number of reasons. That's why I agreed that it should be deleted. However, if the communism vandal begins attacking other websites (example: he proclaims that "Slashdot is Communism" or "IMDb is Communism"), he may become notable enough as an internet meme to merit an encyclopedic article. If this occurs, we could write an article about this general phenomenon and have "Wikipedia is Communism" redirect to it, and have a link at the bottom of it:

==External links==

term abuse/Wikipedia is Communism Profile of the Communism Vandal at Wikipedia.

But to my knowledge, he hasn't reached that level yet. — FREAK OF NUR_xTURE (TALK) 13:26, Jan. 7, 2006

Paraphrasing

Paraphrasing "well enough" is adequate. But "well enough" means that no more than three words in a row can be the same. It's not just changing a word here and there. Whether the copyright holder could find the Wikipedia page by doing a word-for-word search is not the point. Legally, we could be guilty of plagiarism anyway. But Jimbo has said very clearly that the most important thing is more than the legal technicalities. It's about being able to say "we made this ourselves." [2] Anyway, I've found more of your copyvios at Dongdaemun and Apkujong so far. You really need to not do that ever again. FreplySpang (talk) 05:06, 8 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Also, I just looked at your recent contribs. Please don't add more than one stub template (or, rarely, two) to an article. See WP:STUB#Categorizing_stubs. FreplySpang (talk) 05:09, 8 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Nampolese

Well, Chicago (Chicagoan) and Mexico (Mexican) come to mind... as does the fact that Korea has scores of placenames that end in "o", but I have never encountered the suffix "-lese" added to any of them (Mokpolese? Gunpolese? Jejudolese? Dokdolese?)

As a rule, there are no established adjectives for these places, or for other places in Korea and other non-English-speaking countries. People, places and things are usually simply referred to as "in X" or "from X", as in "He's from Seoul" or "that gochujang is from Sunchang."

I don't mean to knock your efforts, but I really think you're on the wrong track here. -- Visviva 14:35, 8 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Although I don't really know, a glance at History of Togo suggests that "Togolese" is a translation of the French Togolaise, Togo having once been a French colony. Presumably Togolaise is itself based on the French language's imponderable rules of word formation... but again, I don't really have a clue. -- Visviva 14:54, 8 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Lindsborg

No such luck. I just am a frequent visitor of the Special:Recent Changes page, and Lindsborg happened to be at the top of the list. --Mareino 19:03, 11 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

WP:NOT

Please read WP:NOT. "Wikipedia is not censored for the protection of minors" is a specific statement of a more general rule, that includes "some articles may include objectionable text, images, or links, provided they do not violate any of our existing policies (especially Neutral point of view), nor the law of the U.S. state of Florida, where the servers are hosted." It would be meaningless to say not censored for children, and then go about censoring it for employees.--Prosfilaes 16:39, 25 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

response from my talk page

I think you're imagining a lot that isn't there. Whatever you think of my writing style, it's not a calculated attempt to peer into your psyche, it's just the way I write. "FreplySpang" is an old nickname of mine that doesn't really mean anything, and that's why I picked it. And, I'm not much interested in personality analysis. FreplySpang (talk) 19:56, 25 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Table formatting

For future reference, here's how to make a table with different row and column sizes (just change the numbers as appropriate):

{| width="300px" border=1
 |-
 | width = 100px height="50px" |
 text
 | width = 200px |
 more text
 |-
 | height="80px" |
 even more text
 |}

gives:

text	more text
even more text

-- Gurch 15:07, 28 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

TfD nomination of Template:User GangnamSeoul

Template:User GangnamSeoul has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at Wikipedia:Templates for deletion#Template:User GangnamSeoul. Thank you. FreplySpang (talk) 16:21, 28 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Stormpay

Just to let you know that you created this article, but an article on the company already existed at StormPay. I have redirected Stormpay to StormPay as a common miscapitalization. The other article is not much better, so feel free to expand it. Stifle 11:54, 31 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Chicano Park

Hi, I notice you put a clean-up tag on the Chicano Park article. In your edit summary, you wrote "Blocks of text make it all boring". I'm not sure exactly how to "clean up" the block format--I don't have any images of the park that would "unblock" the text. Are there any other ways to do it? Is it just the "blocks of text" that need to be cleaned up in your opinion? Because usually I have only seen that tag on articles that have factual inaccuracies, that cite no sources, that have many grammatical errors or that need wikification. If it is just the "blocks of text" that you object to, perhaps another tag would be more appropriate? I really have no idea how to improve it based on the one-sentence criticism. I believe it is generally customary to explain the reasoning behind the placement of a tag on an article's talkpage with specific recommendation for improvements, so if you could do that, I'd appreciate it. BTW, I have placed requests for images of the park on my userpage and on the Southern California WikiProject page, so it's not like I haven't tried to spice the article up.--Rockero420 16:23, 6 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

OK, I have broken up the "blocks" into smaller paragraphs. I also removed the wikify tag, because there are appropriate (IMHO) links throughout the article. If the tag was in reference to some other problem, please let me know. The clean-up tag is still on. Would you take a look and see if my efforts have addressed your concerns? Do you have any other suggestions as to how to improve the article? Thx.--Rockero420 20:40, 6 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

encyclopedic style

Re: ReturnPath and Year-round school. Please write articles in an encyclopedic style. You should not write "come on why wasn't this article created a long time ago?" in the text of the article itself. -- Curps 06:07, 8 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The place for "why wasn't this created sooner" comments is a talk page, not the article itself. After all, that's your personal comment, not part of the description of the topic itself. To signal that the page needs attention, you can put various templates, which I see you are already doing. -- Curps 06:22, 8 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia has a lot of articles and lots of new ones being created all the time. You can't expect people to jump in and start editing your article. It might take weeks or months, you have to be patient. Putting a talk page comment into the page won't make anyone notice it any faster. Why not work on improving the article yourself in the meantime? -- Curps 06:35, 8 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

"ClockworkSeoul"

For what it's worth, I've deleted User:ClockworkSeoul. There is no such user, and creating this page as a link to User:ClockworkSoul "in case he ever visits Seoul" is not particularly useful. Sometimes typo redirects are useful if they help users find content that they otherwise might have missed, however "wordgame" redirects that no one would ever actually type are not useful and only clutter Wikipedia. -- Curps 05:18, 9 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I told CS that it's reserved for when he goes to Korea and uses Wikipedia there. He agreed to it. See User_Talk:ClockworkSoul. See our conversation? He accepts the idea. --Shultz III 05:24, 9 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Re: GTA questions

I don't usually issue replies like this as I usually reserve casual discussions to forums and online chatting, but in this case, I'll help save you the trouble of searching some of the information on the Interweb. Next time, however, you should have better luck asking around in or searching GTA forums or message boards.

Re:How to use Car Washes in GTA:SA

In the case of cars getting clean with a car wash, it appears the patch (upgrading the game to version 1.01 from 1.00) is required to enable this feature. I haven't tried it myself, but fell free to install it yourself after downloading it here. If you haven't known it already, the patch also removes the Hot Coffee feature.

I'm not sure about the effects of installing an older San Andreas patch over a new one, but it turns out the so called "car wash" fix is simply a Paint N Spray/Transfender fix that removes the dirt from the car each time the driven vehicle is resprayed, which I believed should had been addressed in 2.00.

There is a Beta user-made mod that actually creates a marker zone at a car wash [3], requiring users to download a main.scm file (requiring the 1.01 patch installed to work, but is unavailable for download at this time) and use it to replace it exact file in San Andreas. Here's another twist; version 2.00 no longer supports mods; the only workaround is to acquire the game's 1.00 or 1.01 versions EXE program. ╫ ２５ ^{◀RingADing▶} 15:07, 10 February 2006 (UTC) ╫[reply]

Re:Second Question:

Good to see you got out of that mess. Frankly, I never experience such a situation in SA to know of a remedy, although I had a similar experience in GTA III. I believe incendiary weapons (Molotov cocktails and flamethrowers) usually destroy Rhino tanks, but this may not be effective because these weapons simply burn, not displace with explosives, and garages will repair any vehicles even after it has exploded, if the vehicle is still within the garage and the garage door closes. Guess it's a lesson to learn though: never park a large vehicle in a small garage. lol.

Using cheat codes in San Andreas, and also Vice City, will effect the savegame where the codes are activated, by preventing players from ever reaching a 100% game completion (which should provide some nifty rewards), even though all missions and side missions are complete. On a side note, Vice City is less severe in a sense that this doesn't cover health, armor, wanted level and weapon cheats codes. However, San Andreas integrated the health, armor and money code into one, effectively making it a cheat code that is discourage to use for legitimate gameplay; I haven't tried the wanted level and weapon codes, though. In addition, some of the codes are no longer easily memorized, using random letters (at least for the PC version) instead of recognizable words. I'm having the feeling Rockstar is trying to discourage hardcore gamers from using cheat codes to complete the game.

╫ ２５ ^{◀RingADing▶} 14:08, 9 February 2006 (UTC) ╫[reply]

The only cheat codes I've ever used were the ones for the Hunter gunship and Rhino tank. Do they still prevent me from reaching 100%? --Shultz 16:35, 9 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, all vehicle spawning cheat codes in San Andreas should affect savegames. ╫ ２５ ^{◀RingADing▶} 15:07, 10 February 2006 (UTC) ╫[reply]

Re: Star Wars Cloning comment

You asked for an answer both on the page and on your talk, here's mine

Cloning has been established as possible, but neither practical or heavily used. Indeed, the only two major cloning projects that have ever been mentioned would be the clong army of the Republic and Thrawn's clone army (who was, actually, able to make it practical). While there has been the odd cloning project (eg, Hand of Thrawn: Thrawn clone), it happens so rarely that it would be false to assume that people will just be cloned back to life. Forgottenlord 19:20, 10 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Comment found on Yuuzhan Vong talk page

"No bread" icon

LOL...you're right. I'll keep looking for a really houselike image. Meanwhile, "no bread" describes many of the homeless as well, alas. Cheers, Her Pegship 23:24, 13 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

New stub templates

WikiProject Stub Sorting is a group of people who work on keeping all the different stub categories organized. If you want to create new stub types, it's best to mention them at Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Proposals before creating them. I'm not saying you did anything wrong here, just suggesting a way to be more organized and productive. FreplySpang (talk) 02:49, 14 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Also, there's no need to create redirects like Category:Amusement Parks. The software handles that capitalization automatically. For instance, Category:Russian Film Stars works fine without anyone making a redirect page for it. FreplySpang (talk) 02:57, 14 February 2006 (UTC) Never mind, my mistake. FreplySpang (talk) 02:58, 14 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

cluttering

It's not cluttering in terms of disk space, it's cluttering the encyclopedia with entries that don't belong. Wikipedia isn't a blog or personal webspace. -- Curps 05:34, 14 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

On a blog or personal webspace you can do anything you want, it's your personal space. On Wikipedia you can't, it's shared space. You can't write your personal comments within articles, for instance. Redirects that no one will ever type in are not useful. You are creating these as a form of personal word game. The goal of contributors should be to improve Wikipedia, not to treat Wikipedia as some kind of personal playground.

In your room or your house you can do whatever you want (for instance, put up any poster you want on the wall), but in shared space used by many people you can't do so. If you put up a poster of your favorite actor or singer on the walls of a classroom or in the corridor of an office building, someone else will probably come along and take it down and tell you it's not appropriate. -- Curps 05:49, 14 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Substitution of deleted summaries

Oh, and thanks for bringing me back that Userbox, Pathos. If we want to express what we want, then we shall. Anyway, how'd you get the subst code after the template was deleted? -- Your edit summary

You're welcome. I'm an administrator, so I have access to deleted pages. I can temporarily restore them to obtain their code for this purpose. // Pathoschild (_admin / ^talk) 13:16, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

Rugover/Rugxulo

Hi, in response to your question on my talk page, I am not User:Rugover. BTW my own username is a compound Esperanto word meaning a person with red (in my case definitely socialist) characteristics: Ruĝx (root word for red) + ul (person) + o (noun ending). I do not know who Rugover is. ATB Rugxulo 21:24, 14 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Userboxes

A personal profile through userboxes? Interesting, and nigh impressive. ~^ Eluchil 09:56, 15 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Requested Moves

Last I heard, only the newest one percent of accounts are prohibited from moving pages, so you should be able to move pages after about three days. --Tantalum T e lluride 00:43, 24 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wonder Showzen on iTunes

next time do some google searching before assuming something is vandalism and removing it, as it was clearly not. Boneyard 14:39, 27 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

RE:Familiar Name

boneyard on harvestgain, also on the official board and vn boards. Boneyard 20:55, 27 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

USA today

Thanks for the link, Shultz! I wasn't sure where the article had been printed. The Wookieepedian 20:28, 1 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

2180

It would really help that article if you could find some more facts about things that could happen in 2180, perhaps even in fictional universes. It is bad to have an article with only one fact, especially one that is barely notable like that one. It is very disputable whether advances that will prolong life that much will be available during our life times, and Rader, who is rather old by now anyway and one of the most hated people in America, may not be able to receive them. Academic Challenger 22:06, 1 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

requested photo

The photo request template belongs on the talk pages, but I think people are already on the job, anyway. O bli (Talk)^? 01:28, 2 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This is regarding Jordanhill railway station, Wikipedia's One-Millionth Article. --Shultz III 01:35, 2 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

True O bli (Talk)^? 01:45, 2 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Jordanhill

is created on Latin la:Mons_Iordanus_constituo -- user:zanimum