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For better or for worse...

Hi Urshyam, thanks for commenting on my RfA. I was wondering if you wouldn't mind taking a second look at my userspace contributions tree. I've been doing a lot of script and template (demo) work which has inflated the overall userspace edit count. Please let me know if you're still concerned--I'd be curious to know your opinion. Thanks! ~MDD4696 19:35, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

removing candidate

Hey Urshyam about removing candidates from Wikipedia:Article Improvement Drive, it would be better to wait next day in UTC. Cheers --Ugur Basak 20:53, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

No need to sorry:)Just give them 3 hour chance:)--Ugur Basak 21:10, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
Probably they can't get enough votes to stay. I just look to your edit counter and wow you passed 10K just in March, congratulations. Aren't you a bot, hmm?--Ugur Basak 21:23, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

Re: Autotagging

Hello Mdd4696, It was really great that you care about individual's vote. My vote goes for support now as I am fully convinced with your reply. Will you help me about autotaaging process, because i am unable to understand it. Right now, I am associated with untagged images project. Thank you in anticipation, Regards, Shyam (T/C) 20:08, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

I've added some usage instructions to User:Mdd4696/Image Autotagger. With the next version, I hope to make the interface more intuitive. Are you currently using any tools to make image tagging easier? It seems that you have a very efficient method of tagging, whatever it is. Thanks for the vote of confidence by the way! ~MDD4696 20:51, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

Regarding Image copyright problem with Image:Pickupcat.jpg


Thanks for your message. I contacted the creator of this image and asked if I could upload the image to He said that it was ok so I didn't think more of it.

Do I have to contact the creator again to get a hold of the copyright templates? I am not to familiar with all the terms and stuff so I thought it waas best to ask how to procede.

Thanks for your help. Odd7—Preceding unsigned comment added by Odd7 (talkcontribs)

Peter Cusing as Van Helsing picture.

I guess I forgot to put a tag on this, but it shouldn't be deleted I think. I got it with permission from the website I had posted along with the description but there's also the fact that the Dracula film Peter had portrayed Van Helsing in is nearly 50 years old (46 to be exact). The film is a classic in the film vaults but for all intensive purposes, I highly doubt Hammer studio's is going to go after people for a screenshot of a 46 year old, somewhat obscure film and the film is closing in on public domain/fair use age so I recommend these tags:

{{Non-free fair use in}} {{withpermission}}.

I'll expand on the copyright itself once the web administrator gets back to me.

I've sent the website administrator whom I recieved permission to use this image from an email asking him how the picture came to be and any other needed information, so I'll post that up as soon as I get it. But for the mean time, I really don't think its necessary to delete this. I won't remove the removal tag and replace it with a tag until I hear from you. I'd like to save the image because it works very well with the two wiki's its linked to.--Kiyosuki 00:14, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

AID Maintenance Log

Hi there. I was just wondering why you sometimes sign the log twice within one hour? --Steven 03:22, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

I'm sorry, you must have misunderstood my last message. What I was saying was, you don't need to sign the AID Maintenance log every time you run the bot. You only have to sign it once. Otherwise, we end up loosing a quick record of the people that previously maintained the project. Thankyou --Steven 00:54, 14 April 2006 (UTC)


You voted for Indian cricket team, this week's Indian Colloboration of the Week. Please come and help it become a featured-standard article. - Ganeshk (talk) 07:27, 2 April 2006 (UTC)


Just curious, how was my answers unsatisfactory? - A Link to the Past (talk) 07:32, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

Thank you

Admin mop.PNG Namaskar Urshyam, how are you? Thanks for your support in my RFA. The final vote count was (88/3/1), so I am now an administrator. I am very humbled by your vote and grateful. Please let me know if at any stage you require assistance, or if you have comments on how I am doing as an administrator. Once again thank you and with kind regards Gryffindor 17:50, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

Clapton image

I merely uploaded to image to make way for a better quality one. Please talk to Samset89, he is the original uploader. -Greg Asche (talk) 19:24, 2 April 2006 (UTC)


Hi.. image for Anatole Wieck was taken from the Univ. of Maine website, and prof. Wieck gave the permission for it, but I didn't know that wouldn't count. So I would need the permission of the univ. of maine, or can I specify that it was from the University's website??



Svetlana Miljkovic 09:17, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

RFA Thanks


Thank you for your support vote on my RFA. The final result was a successful request based on 111 support and 1 oppose. --CBDunkerson 17:29, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

My RfA

Cumulus cloud.jpg Hello Urshyam: Thank you for supporting me in my RfA, which passed with a final tally of 77/3/0. I hope I can perform at the standards expected for administrators. If I make any mistakes, or you need anything, please let me know. Prodego talk 01:48, 4 April 2006 (UTC)


I know who owns the copyright. Could you please hold off on deleting the photo until I get in contact with him? Thank you, --Rockero 03:37, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

I have been granted permission by the copyright holder and I have tagged the image. I'd appreciate it if you would take a look and make sure that it is the correct tag. Gracias, --Rockero 16:16, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
Thanks! You rock.--Rockero 17:27, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Our RfAs

Another newly produced robot thanks you for your handiwork, and excuses himself while he practices his new abilities. Back in action soon! -- Hoary 11:01, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
TeabagandMilk.jpg Hi Urshyam. Just a quick note to thank you for your support in my RfA, which recently passed 62/13/6. I will do my very best live up to this new responsibility and to serve the community, but please let me know if I make any mistakes or if you have any feedback at all on my actions. Finally, if there is anything that I can assist you with - please don't hesitate to ask. Cheers TigerShark 03:47, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Image problem

Hai Shyam, the images Image:Payan Chella Raj.jpg and Image:Muttirikkinaru.jpg are from the same website And so I marked them as fair use and I cited them. But now the website was missing. So what to do? - Vaikunda Raja 20:42, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Image:Queen Mary and Queen Mary.png

I don't know what is appropriate regarding the above image, it was assembled from what was listed as a public domain image, and another image taken by a relative, which was also placed in the public domain and posted to the commons. In other words it was a compilation of 2 public domain works. The first picture, of the Queen, Mary Stuart, has since been delted for some reason, and if that was a good reason, then the Image:Queen Mary and Queen Mary.png image should be deleted as well. I'm going to just acquiesce to whatever gets done with either image, I trust wikipedia to do whatever it thinks is appropriate.

Thanks for notifying me though, that was kind. Pedant 22:28, 4 April 2006 (UTC)


When you finish off a page, can you please add {{db}} to it! Thanks Admrb♉ltz (T | C | k) 21:56, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Copyright issues with CCGK photo

Hi, I got your message about the copyright issues on a photo I uploaded called CCGK Photo. It's my photograph, in that, the photographer and the subject are both me. I use it extensively as part of my profile description: on my blog, on flickr, on wikipedia and elsewhere. I am not sure where the copyright issue is... --Chandrachoodan Gopalakrishnan

Image copyright problem with Image:Medal.jpg

I added {{PD-PolishGov}} given that the site is I hope this resolves the issue, if not, let me know. •Jim62sch• 22:19, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Esperanza Newsletter, Issue #2

The Barnstar Brigade is a new program aimed at giving more very deserving yet unappreciated users barnstars. It will officially start on 2006-04-09, but signing up is encouraged before this date:
"Here in Wikipedia, there are hundreds of wikipedians whose work and efforts go un-appreciated. One occasionally comes across editors who have thousands of good edits, but because they may not get around as much as others, their contributions and hard work often go un-noticed. Sadly, these editors often leave the project. As Esperanzians, we can help to make people feel appreciated, be it by some kind words or the awarding of a Barnstar. A project the size of Wikipedia has thousands of editors, so there are plenty of people out there who deserve recognition, one just has to find them. The object of this program is not to flood editors with Barnstars, but to seek out people who deserve them, and make them feel appreciated."
The Stress alerts program aims at identifying users who are stressed, alerting the community of thier stress and works in tandem with the Stressbusters at trying to identify causes of stress and eliminating them.
Welcome to the second issue of the new format Esperanza Newsletter - we hope you still like it! This week, it was delivered diligently by our new dogsbody. MiszaBot (run by Misza13): any execution complaints should go to him. Content comments should be directed at the Esperanza talkpage. Thanks!
  1. The next elections: Approval voting as before and, also as before, an previous leadership member can run. Please submit your name for voting in the relevant section of this page. Voting starts on 2006-04-23 and ends on 2006-04-30. There will be three places up for grabs as KnowledgeOfSelf is leaving Wikipedia. Please see the previously linked page for full details.
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A plea from the editor...
The propsed programs page is terribly underused! Please leave any comments, good or bad, on the page, to help us determine the membership's thoughts on the ideas there.
Celestianpower, JoanneB, Titoxd, KnowledgeOfSelf and FireFox 19:53, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

KreemKing Image

Hello, please delete the KreemKing image. The page was taken down by an administrator and the image will not be used for anything. Thanks. NIRVANA2764 23:36, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Image:Europe040727 1024.jpg

Ok, this has been taken care of. Norum 03:36, 07 April 2006 (UTC)

hey that flour mill picture i took, i even included the date and time when i took it, i thought i indicated it was, please put it back up.

Kusma's RfA


Hello, Urshyam! Thank you for your support in my recent successful request for adminship. If you ever have problems that you could use my assistance with or see me doing stupid things with my new buttons, don't hesitate to contact me. Happy editing, Kusma (討論) 02:28, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

Beethoven image

The Beethoven image (Image:Beethoven wiki.jpg) is from the Library of Congress. The source location was deleted by user Not sure why, but I reverted it. Janderk 15:24, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

I was just wonderin if you could answer me a question. I don't really understand the deal with the photos and all that goes with them. I mean, this whole site is a basic free for all and anyone and everyone can do anything and everything to it. So why is it that when someone adds a photo to it, they've got to get permission to use it. Now myself I look at this as a waste of time because of the simple fact that there are a zillion photos of anything and everything out there that people use. As long as you are giving credit to where you got it, I don't see the big deal. Now that is the same thing with anything and everything that is on this site. If you the powers that be want to be so picky about photos, why aren't they picky about the information that people put in the entries. I mean, I've gone on to some people's bios and shows and have seen things literally plagiarized, word for word from one source or another. I'm just really curious why they are so stingent about some things but not others. If you could help me out and answer some of these things or if there is someone who might be able to, I would appreciate it. If you could, please contact me at instead of replying here since I only come on here every so often. Thanks Charley —Preceding unsigned comment added by Charley28 (talkcontribs)

Retail Alphabet Game image


On the page for the graphic above, why do you keep removing my detailed copyright explanation? I am the author of the image, and I provide express approval for it to be used, but only as indicated. It is a specialized license. Suggesting that its usage is only "fair use" makes it appear as if I have not given express approval. It's important, though, that I've given express approval for use on only one page. Jkatzen 07:38, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

Jkatzen, you mentioned in your detailed copyright information that it is only for use on a single article. On any other article it is simply copyright infringement. You did not use any tag to explain your copyright information, so it was untagged. I have tried to tag it according to information provided. If you think, it is tagged incorrectly, then please tag it suitably but don't leave as untagged image. Thank you, Shyam (T/C) 08:59, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
Well, if there's no tag that suitably explains my license, what is supposed to happen? Jkatzen 05:04, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

Copyright - Image:NrGorge.jpeg

Hello, photos really are a pain in the arse with wiki...

There is no copyright, its used with express permission of the author Richard Pane (an aquaintance). his site is

I don't know the tag which best describes this.

If this doesn't answer your problem then i cant be bothered, just delete it.


Bjrobinson 14:20, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

Image of Chatris for Laxmangarh

I just noticed that you have taken off the image of chatris that I had put in in the entry for Laxmangarh. I had clearly indicated that I had taken the picture myself, and that I was placing it in public domain, unfortunately nobody bothered to read that.

Anyway, it is what it is, more power to you and your deletions.

Mukul Pareek

Image Tagging

Dear Shyam,

I have uploaded several images that I own copyright to with the proper copyright tag. But all the images I uploaded were removed. Here is a list of the images:

Image Tagging Image:Europride02 001.jpg Image Tagging Image:Berlin01 090.jpg Image Tagging Image:Amsterdam03 103.jpg

The first time I uploaded I was unaware of the copyright restrictions so the second time I uploaded the files I made sure they were tagged properly. Would you please assist me in re submitting these images?

Image copyright problem with Image:Poland1939 GermanPlanMap.jpg


I have specified the source of the map. The place is known for being public domain. My understanding is that you question only maps of unknown sources?

However, right now they are under construction so I cannot find easyly apropriate statement.

I hope it solves the problem?

Cautious 11:15, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

My RfA

Many thanks for your support on my recent RfA. It was successful. Thanks again, Mark83 10:53, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

Image copyright problem with Image:Sonicoval.gif + OTHERS

That image was my mistake. It can be deleted, a better picture was already uploaded. Lord Falcon 13:30, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

Should also be deleted

Image:Captain vahn.jpg - No comment needed.

Image:Captain Falcon imagehere.jpg - No links since another picture is already being used.

Lord Falcon 17:22, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

Unnecessary deletions of images of paintings

thumb|The Wrath of Achilles by François-Léon Benouville (Paris, 1821 - Paris, 1859)The Wrath of Achilles by François-Léon Benouville (Paris, 1821 - Paris, 1859) has been deleted. If you see any images of paintings that have no copright status, I wonder whether you'd alert me before having them deleted. I'd be glad to do the minimal work to provide copyright status.How do I reinstate this image painted by an artist dead in 1859? --Wetman 01:12, 14 April 2006 (UTC) {{PD-old}}

Hi! Thanks for your response. This communication is continued at my discussion page. --Wetman 18:16, 14 April 2006 (UTC)


I just reviewed the wikipedia article I have written at length at, and to my suprise I found 20 very legal images removed from the article. As I might have stated before, I do not know if there was a copyright issue with those images or not but I listed the urls from where they came and that is what I believed wikipedia required. As a second comment, I've have never had those images removed before and they were posted for much longer than that the 7 prohabitionary days, all those images were there for months before you decided to remove them. Please kindly resubmit them as I believe honestly that you're orphan image removing bot made an honest mistake. Please contact me if you need further details on where I downloaded those images. Thank you.


I had to get the questions the next day. General Eisenhower 20:23, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

Vote #7: Removal of voters with only votes as contributions

There is currently a vote taking place to help set a limit on who can vote. You might want to voice your opinion on the matter. --Steven 22:27, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

Brian Lara

You have changed the text form "passed away" to "died". Please tell me what is the difference? Is there any such need to do so. Shyam (T/C) 22:23, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

"Passed away" is usually a euphemism. It doesn't say what it means. It is idiomatic. It is not encyclopaedic in tone. It is verbose. (See also parrot sketch.) "Died" is accurate, clear, concise universal English. Regards, Rich Farmbrough 22:42 18 April 2006 (UTC).
Incidentally it is mentioned explicitly at Wikipedia:How_to_write_a_great_article#writing. Rich Farmbrough 23:02 18 April 2006 (UTC).

Image copyright problem with Image:Chris Huhne.jpg

Thanks for uploading Image:Chris Huhne.jpg. However, the image may soon be deleted unless we can determine the copyright holder and copyright status. The Wikimedia Foundation is very careful about the images included in Wikipedia because of copyright law (see Wikipedia's Copyright policy).

The copyright holder is usually the creator, the creator's employer, or the last person who was transferred ownership rights. Copyright information on images is signified using copyright templates. The three basic license types on Wikipedia are open content, public domain, and fair use. Find the appropriate template in Wikipedia:Image copyright tags and place it on the image page like this: {{TemplateName}}.

Please signify the copyright information on any other images you have uploaded or will upload. Remember that images without this important information can be deleted by an administrator. If you have any questions, feel free to contact me. Thank you. Shyam (T/C) 21:53, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

I didn't upload the original picture of Chris Huhne, it was uploaded by somebody else. I just edited it, so that the size would be on line with the other pictures of the Lib Dem politicians. I had the impression, that it was originally uploaded by somebody who was related to the site of Chris Huhne, but I can't tell this for sure, because all the original data seems to have disappeared. --Liberalis 23:28, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

PS: See also [], I think that the same picture or a similar can also be found from the site of the Lib Dems.

Image:Plains North Lanarkshire.jpg


You left a message asking me about the copyright status of the image which I had uploaded. Well, I took the photograph myself with my own camera! How do I indicate this on the page?



Running Man'sBarnstar - Cricket

Barnstar-goldrun7.png The Running Man's Barnstar
For being our resident cricket statistician, I hereby award you this barnstar (we're struggling without you)! Enjoy, ßlηguγΣη
Not all all complaining Urshyam - it just shows how important you are to the functioning of WP:CRIC. All the best with your studies. Regards,ßlηguγΣη | Have your say!!! 06:50, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

Please see my reply (DD Ting)

My RfA

Just a note: you have made two "votes" in my RfA. One in the Support section, and one in the Neutral section. Would you mind a tiny clarification? Thanks. --LV (Dark Mark) 21:12, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the clarification. See ya around. --LV (Dark Mark) 21:25, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

Image Deleted?

Hello Shyam,

I am the author of an article ( which had an image deleted and I do not understand why. Can you help me?

The image is one of several that I believe are fair use and were tagged as such in the article. It seems to me it was randomly deleted by a bot and I do not have a backup of the image. I would like to know if it is recoverable.

The image is a scan from a newspaper advertisement from 1927 and I assume the copyright has expired.

Thank you for your help.



Hi. Sorry for the delay, but I've answered your question on my talk page. I hope that I've addressed all the points. Let me know if you have any more questions. Cheers, Redux 02:47, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

Hi again. I've answered your second post. Redux 16:25, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
There's a follow-up to your post, if you are interested. Redux 18:20, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

CFD backlog

Thanks for the help, but my bot's getting edit conflicts. I've been starting at the bottom and going upward, hopefully to avoid that. Could you start at the top and work downward? Then when we end up in the same spot again, the job will be done. — Apr. 22, '06 [13:40] <freakofnurxture|talk>

Okay. I got an edit conflict on somebody in the English bowlers category, Trevor Bailey. I guess he was in more than one category. No worries then, I double check that they're empty before deleting. — Apr. 22, '06 [13:48] <freakofnurxture|talk>

Indian Portal

Please include Tamil Nadu and Swami Vivekananda in the Indian Portal's Forum

Saravan_p 10:00 pm 22-4-2006

Hindi Wikipedia


With regards to the comments you left on my Hindi Wikipedia page, can you specify in a bit more detail as to what trouble you are having with the infobox. Currently I am a bit inactive because of exams, but will definitely try to help once I become fully active. -Ambuj Saxena (talk) 18:38, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

Hi, The link to Hindi Wikipedia's RfA page is hi:विकिपीडिया:Requests for adminship. But its useless to contest for adminship as Hemanshu is the only bureaucrat and he is inactive. You might be knowing that only bureaucrats can appoint users as admins. Even I want to be an admin to Hindi Wikipedia as the place is going like hell. The only admin who has shown any activity in 2006 is Spundun and he makes some 10 edits in a month. What do you suggest we should do? Anyway, please give me some time to work on the infobox. My exams are going on currently and I will get back to you as soon as I am free. If you need more help, do contact me. -Ambuj Saxena (talk) 07:24, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
Even I support the idea of asking for external help. I will come back to you as soon as my exams are over and then we can jointly ask some of the people in the Wikimedia foundation. Let's hope this helps. Best of luck to you too. -Ambuj Saxena (talk) 08:11, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

Thank you

Hello there again. I just wanted to thank you for your support! I hope to behave in such a way that you never regret your vote.--Rockero 00:15, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the help at CFD/W

You've been doing a great job buzzing through the recategorizations. I wanted to remind you though to please make sure that the over-categories of the renamed categories get copied over to the new name. If you need an example of what I'm talking about, check my edit to Category:Elections in the Isle of Man. I dropped it into the same categories that Category:Elections in Man is in. Thanks! --Syrthiss 01:52, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

Category:Democratic National Committee chairs

Wikipedia:Categories for deletion/Log/2006 April 14#Category:DNC Chairmen to Category:Democratic National Committee Chairmen

Please reconsider your closing. Even the nominator agreed on the change to "chairs" (see final comment). There were 5 supporters for "chairs" and only 2 for "chairmen".

Moreover, Wikipedia cannot decide to call folks a name that they have explicitly decided not to call themselves. Wikipedia:No Original Research is policy.

--William Allen Simpson 04:04, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

Category:Korean self-propelled artillery

Wikipedia:Categories for deletion/Log/2006 April 14#Korean self-propelled artillery

Please reconsider your closing. The nominator is automatically counted as delete. That gives 2 deletes and 2 comments. The category is already empty, and normally would qualify for speedy delete.

--William Allen Simpson 04:17, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for letting me know my mistake. I will reconsider my closing for both these categories. If you found my any closing unsuitable, please let me know. Regards, Shyam (T/C) 05:27, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
No problem, just working a bit too fast.... You've been extremely helpful in handling the backlog, and we all thank you very much.
--William Allen Simpson 00:14, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

ifd tagging.

Hey, I just noticed you IFD tagged a couple images I have on my watchlist. You should subst the templates and you also need to list them on the current days IFD page, as well as notifying the uploader. I have taken care of this for you.--Drat (Talk) 14:29, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

Another image question

I completely don't understand this image permission thing. Please can you tell me why I can't use the photograph on this website:- (as this is my website!) in my Wikipedia entry?? If I use the photograph, people just take it away and I don't know why. (I obtained the photograph years ago and I think it was from the "Women in American History by Encyclopedia Britannica" site - which doesn't seem to be around any more.) However, this photograph is on a few websites now - so why should anyone care if I use it? Isn't that what they call public domain? (I would really like a reply that doesn't contain lots of baffling acronyms - thanks!) Jaycey 18:23, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

Just another RFA thank you note

NonFreeImageRemoved.svg Dear SB, I appreciate your vote and your kind words in my RFA. It has passed with an unexpected 114/2/2 and I feel honored by this show of confidence in me. Cheers! ←Humus sapiens ну? 03:30, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

Selected articles for Portal:Hinduism

Hi Shyam, you did some outstanding work on Portal:India/Selected articles. Like it says you are a bot! I've nominated Indian cricket team on WP:PINSAC and more importantly, would you be able do a similar job for Portal:Hinduism. It is one of my goals to make it a FPortal. Thanks a lot. GizzaChat ©

India Portal selected articles?

Why are you going around slapping selected article templates on the talk pages of articles that any sensible person would not consider "India-related" (Coca-Cola, Butter, C programming language, Dinosaur, Blue Whale, Aquarium, Graffiti, etc.)? Also considering these were never nominated at Portal:India/Selected article candidates. —jiy (talk) 19:03, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

My RfA

Lutherbibel.jpg Thank you for voting at my RFA. Even though you did not vote for me, your counsel was appreciated. In the next few months, I intend to work on expanding my involvement in other namespaces and try a few different subjects than in the past. - CTSWynekenTalk

Hey - the image I uploaded I took myself, so I can assure you the copyright is mine -- well, consider it copylefted (reprint as you like).

More can be found at:

FYI, the images hosted at marked as contributed by RTF (and even some which are not) were taken by....Well, you can see where that's going ;)

I'll do whatever it is I need to do to correct things/affirm copyright et al.

Best Regards,

~rtf~ --


Thanks for the support on my RFA. Unfortunately, it did not achieve consensus. I look forward to your support in a couple months when I apply again. Holler at me if you need anything. SWATJester Ready Aim Fire! 01:15, 29 April 2006 (UTC)