User talk:Sonaefc

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Speedy deletion nomination of Llandegfan Antelope FC

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A tag has been placed on Llandegfan Antelope FC requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a club, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable.

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Hi, FYI this is the consensus about the notability of football teams on wikipedia: Wikipedia:WikiProject Football/Notability. According to Anglesey League the clubs there don't compete in a National Cup, here Welsh Cup. Isn't this right?--Ben Ben (talk) 18:16, 17 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Best place to ask football related questions should be here: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Football. There are the top football related writers here on wikipedia.--Ben Ben (talk) 18:21, 17 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Ben, thank you for your help on this and your comments on Peridon's page. You are right in your suggestion regarding the Welsh Cup; however, due to the complex nature of the football pyramid in Wales, this is not a fair reflection of eligibility. The country's football competitions are split into regions due to the inadequate transport infrastructure between North and South Wales. Indeed, only the Welsh Premier League caters for fully "national" football. Clubs from the Anglesey League are entered into the North Wales Coast FA Cup, which is a regional Cup within Welsh domestic football. You will also note that former Welsh Premier League teams can be relegated down to the Anglesey League (see Cemaes Bay). I feel my in depth knowledge of football on Anglesey will be of benefit to people looking into Welsh football as a whole. Sonaefc (talk) 19:17, 17 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Sonaefc, thank your for the answer. Unfortunately there is no article about the North Wales Coast FA Cup (it is mentioned in the article about the English FA Cup). Maybe you want to write one, would fill a gap. It isn' mentioned in Football in Wales.--Ben Ben (talk) 20:14, 17 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Ben, excellent thank you. I must admit, having my first ever page deleted after spending hours on it was most demoralising and I nearly decided to give up contributing altogether, but your advice and comments have certainly helped; plus your invitation to write an article about the North Wales Coast FA Cup has reignited my desire to write about Anglesey football. By the way, perhaps you could take a look at my changes made to the Llandegfan Antelope FC page and advise whether it is now suitable? Thanks in advance. Sonaefc (talk) 20:22, 17 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Sonaefc, I had a look at your article at User:Sonaefc/Llandegfan Antelope FC. I don't want to discourage you from writing articles for Wikipedia, but - to say it frankly - you will not get an article on wiki that is about a tier 6/Sunday League team. Except other notability, for example, founding member of the Wales league or similar would be given. The teams in your league, that have an article, are the reserve teams of higher level teams. Sorry, but "my" team also doesn't have one, they have their own web site instead. Don't try, you only will get frustrated with a second deletion. --Ben Ben (talk) 19:09, 18 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Football in Wales

I've moved that to the bottom of the page, where it should be. Peridon (talk) 15:25, 18 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]