User talk:Surge Of Reason
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Surge Of Reason (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
On the grounds that it is not necessary to prevent further damage or disruption, I'm appealing my indefinite block. In regards to the above comment, I merely intended to call to order a crowd of people who had viciously rallied against me on the noticeboard. I will stay away from the Moderna page until a more favorable consensus can be established. Surge Of Reason (talk) 19:36, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
Decline reason:
Your comment was far beyond what is appropriate here. It was not merely a call to order. This unblock request is not significantly better. Yamla (talk) 21:41, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
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Surge Of Reason (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
Then I apologize for hurting their feelings and calling into question their motivations and understanding of Wikipedia's rules Surge Of Reason (talk) 09:19, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
Decline reason:
An apology is a good start, but you are going to need to go into more detail about the steps you will take to avoid the problematic behavior you were blocked for in the future. Since you aren't going to be permitted to edit about Moderna further, you will also need to tell what edits you intend to make. 331dot (talk) 09:29, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
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Surge Of Reason (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
I have a list of companies I intend to amend: Glencore, Gilead Sciences, Teva Pharmaceuticals, Lonza Group, IQVIA, Bloom Energy, Plug Power, TPI Composites, Royal Bank Of Canada, Toronto Dominion Bank, as well as others. My intention is to henceforth sidestep disagreements that I can't resolve through respectful dialogue. Surge Of Reason (talk) 11:10, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
Decline reason:
See below. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 19:11, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
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Surge Of Reason (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
I also apologize for edit warring, making a scene, accusing other editors without sufficient evidence, and behaving in such a way that I come over as single-minded. Surge Of Reason (talk) 10:54, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
Decline reason:
There is already an open unblock request above. SQLQuery Me! 20:06, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
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Surge Of Reason (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
I'm giving this another ping. People need this information in an easy to read format you know. Surge Of Reason (talk) 11:25, 13 April 2022 (UTC)
Decline reason:
You created a Confirmed sock puppet with User:Eagle Eye Looking Glass. You were also told before not to open multiple unblock requests. Opening multiple unblock requests does nothing to speed up this process, and it only creates more work for administrators who have to tediously close each of them. Your only real hope now is the standard offer. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 19:11, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
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Arbitration Request
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Surge Of Reason (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
What I have said may have been crude or unsupported by policy, but not so bad as to warrant the endless pile-drive blocking me from saying or doing anything here. The things I saw on the way over here have scared the crap out of me. I couldn't come across three subsequent pages without finding fallacies, striking omissions, or terrible spelling and grammar. Pages on mining companies simply didn't include incidents that resulted in the loss of dozens of lives.[1][2][3][4][5][6] Criticism Of Microsoft was hidden away as a kind of barely noticeable link in sections about “layoffs” or “United States government.”[7] Most company pages didn't share anything negative or you had to locate it in a tiny corner of its history. There's a flood of young investors coming in that can't tell Tesla from an ethical company, Nextera Energy from a charitable cause, or Bitcoin from a protest vote. If you let me make edits this will all become more obvious. That would be better than having me wait six months only to see this dispute resolution continue. If you don't you are protecting corporate criminal behavior. You are also protecting their fundraising, their deception of potential employees, and the deception of people who vote on relevant policies. I apologize to Acroterion who probably acted in good faith, for not understanding the full use of the pronoun “they.” I apologize to Deepfriedokra for not finding Defriedokra's antics suitable, to Ravenswing for not finding the “trout joke” suitable even though the internet's understanding of the trout joke is scary at best.[8] I apologize for claiming my accusers shouldn't even be on the noticeboard, because after looking at it more closely I am sure that I wouldn't maintain a great deal of patience and solemnity on it for very long either. I apologize for the false clean start using a new name, but you have to at least address some of my concerns before I keel over dead in solitary confinement. That being said, I don't want to be sent on a wild goose chase trying to reach a consensus with users who stubbornly veto admissible content or otherwise refuse to converse. I have contacted an arbitrator to deal with this matter. Surge Of Reason (talk) 20:04, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
Decline reason:
Your unblock request doesn't satisfactorily demonstrate that you understand why you were blocked, or why your behaviour leading up to your block was not acceptable. Additionally you're not addressing these issues, but pointing that articles are bad and placing the blame on others. Since this is your sixth unblock request and you're still not demonstrating that you understand why you were blocked, or why you were going to likely be blocked prior to your personal attacks, this is just wasting people's time now. Canterbury Tail talk 12:38, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.
- This isn't a matter for Arbitration. No comment on the rest of the contents of the appeal. Barkeep49 (talk) 20:25, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
- And this backhanded edit summary isn't appropriate [1]. Acroterion (talk) 21:10, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
- (°〇°) I could go on for a long time about the things that are inappropriate around here. Unfortunately, the act of doing so would be considered inappropriate.
References
You are not allowed to remove declined unblock requests. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 00:54, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
Talk page access revoked
[edit]Since you seem to be unable to structure an unblock request that anyone would even consider unblocking you for, and since your unblock requests don't want to address any of the issues raised in the ANI thread that was headed towards having you blocked even before your completely unacceptable group attacks, I've removed your talk page access to prevent this from becoming more of a time sink to editors. If you wish to have your unblock requests treated seriously going forward, you'll need to go through the WP:UTRS system. Canterbury Tail talk 12:32, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
Your emails
[edit]Hello. As you were advised above, this is not a case for arbitration. Otherwise, I can only strongly echo the advice to follow the terms of the standard offer, and wait for your appeal to be processed. --BDD (talk) 01:25, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
- I expect what BDD wrote is a disappointing answer but it is the answer. Further emails along these lines will likely result in your email access being turned off. Barkeep49 (talk) 15:27, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
- is closed. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 22:55, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
- I have added the pertinent email addendum to the ticket. Please note that you were blocked for personal attacks and not vandalism. Please note that your response regarding dealing with content disputes was insufficient. Please see WP:DR. I see a checkuser notice on your user page, so apparently you were evading a block or using multiple accounts. Ultimately, you will need a checkuser to agree to unblocking you Best, --Deepfriedokra (talk) 18:37, 9 May 2022 (UTC)
- In reply to your email, your block log shows you were blocked for personal attacks and harassment
- 12:30, 18 April 2022 Canterbury Tail ... changed block settings for Surge Of Reason ... with an expiration time of indefinite (account creation blocked, cannot edit own talk page) (Personal attacks or violations of the harassment policy)
- 13:49, 23 March 2022 Canterbury Tail ... blocked Surge Of Reason ... with an expiration time of indefinite (account creation blocked) (Personal attacks or violations of the harassment policy) --Deepfriedokra (talk) 19:48, 9 May 2022 (UTC)
- I had quite forgotten this ANI thread --Deepfriedokra (talk) 19:52, 9 May 2022 (UTC)
- PS. It had not been 48 hours. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 20:10, 9 May 2022 (UTC)
- A strict reading of policy says that anyone could unblock this account. It's only when a CheckUser changes the block rationale to use {{Checkuserblock-account}}, {{CheckUser block}}, or {{Checkuserblock-wide}} that policy mandates a CheckUser review. I don't know if everyone on Arbcom would agree with that interpretation of policy, but that's how I personally see it. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 09:31, 14 May 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks, but given the consequences of undoing a check user block, and as you say, not all Arb's might agree, better safe than sorry. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 14:37, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
- A strict reading of policy says that anyone could unblock this account. It's only when a CheckUser changes the block rationale to use {{Checkuserblock-account}}, {{CheckUser block}}, or {{Checkuserblock-wide}} that policy mandates a CheckUser review. I don't know if everyone on Arbcom would agree with that interpretation of policy, but that's how I personally see it. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 09:31, 14 May 2022 (UTC)
- PS. It had not been 48 hours. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 20:10, 9 May 2022 (UTC)
Apology
[edit]You have not personally wounded or offended me, so you have nothing to apologize to me for. Best. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 14:39, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
- I also do not need an apology no, there's nothing personal going on here just editors trying to make the best of what we have and sometimes people's emotions get caught up in it. Canterbury Tail talk 19:25, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
- Seems a bunch of people got those e-mail apologies. I'd forgotten about the incident, of course, but given the sentence I got of "Will you support my unblock request so I can advance knowledge about companies and protect people from financial ruin and humiliation?" it's pretty clear that Surge of Reason still doesn't get it, and likely never will. Ravenswing 19:20, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
- Yeah we're not here to help people make financial investment decisions, we're an encyclopaedia. Canterbury Tail talk 20:01, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
- Stop sending me emails. If you have something to complain about, do it here. Oh and it’s not “my encyclopedia”. Canterbury Tail talk 01:15, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
- There's a link in those e-mails you can click to block future e-mails from him. I just used it, myself. (Psst: he CAN'T talk about it here. You removed his talk page access.) Ravenswing 01:54, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
- Oops, oh yeah. Forgot about that. That's old age for you. Canterbury Tail talk 11:28, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
- There's a link in those e-mails you can click to block future e-mails from him. I just used it, myself. (Psst: he CAN'T talk about it here. You removed his talk page access.) Ravenswing 01:54, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
- Stop sending me emails. If you have something to complain about, do it here. Oh and it’s not “my encyclopedia”. Canterbury Tail talk 01:15, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
- Yeah we're not here to help people make financial investment decisions, we're an encyclopaedia. Canterbury Tail talk 20:01, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
A word of advice it might be best if you stop sending e-mails eliciting support for an unblock. For a start many of us are not admins, and so can't even comment at a UTRS appeal. Secondly, you were blocked for many reasons, not just being rude to people (and I doubt most of them would have even supported your block for just upsetting them). Third, and I really can't emphasize this strongly enough, from my perspective the fact you are trying so hard to get an unblock means you are here for a reason, and that is not to build an encyclopedia, but to push an agenda. You need to demonstrate that is not the case, not to me but to the admins at UTRS. Slatersteven (talk) 10:27, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
And your latest email to me tells me you are also not all that sincere with your apologies, as rather than address the issue I raised you said "Well you were apologized to anyway, for all the good it did." (as if that was all that was needed). Slatersteven (talk) 17:41, 20 May 2022 (UTC)
Trolling
[edit]UTRS appeal #58955 has been declined, obviously. User is not eligible for unblock consideration under WP:SO until 2022-11-30 and will then need to account for deliberately wasting our time on UTRS. --Yamla (talk) 21:03, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
Unblock request via new account
[edit]See User talk:Passionate Dynamo and contributions. They've been directed to the SO page for instructions on how to appropriately request unblocking under the terms of SO. Acroterion (talk) 13:03, 2 December 2022 (UTC)
was neither concise nor clear. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 09:26, 5 June 2023 (UTC)