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Copy editing suggestions

I've noticed you doing yeoman's work on copy editing and formatting some highway articles. I have a suggestion for you to keep in mind though. In a few situations, you've downcased "Interstate" to "interstate". This has the effect of changing intended meaning though. An "Interstate Highway" or just "Interstate" (with a capital "I") is a component of the Dwight D. Eisenhower System of Interstate and Defense Highways, aka the Interstate Highway System. An "interstate highway" crosses state lines. I-10 is both an "Interstate Highway" and an "interstate highway", but I-610 is only an "Interstate Highway" and does not cross state lines. As a counterpart to this, US 2 is also an "interstate highway", but it is not an "Interstate Highway"; it is also a "US Highway", and all of these examples are "US highways". In short, capitalization matters.

One other thing: you don't have to pipe a link just to insert a non-breaking space. MediaWiki treats regular and non-breaking spaces alike in figuring out a link. Imzadi 1979 → 02:53, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

I restore the piped link in I-215's article for SR 60 though. The state name isn't really part of the highway's name, so we usually pipe the link to remove it unless context requires it. WP:USSH has a good chart of the official naming schemes for reference. Imzadi 1979 → 17:21, 14 December 2021 (UTC)

Also, we really shouldn't put spaces around the slashes in concurrent highway designations. There was a provision in the Manual of Style for a number of years that if we joined two named with an en dash we had to space it if either term had a space within it. In other words, if talking about a state line, we'd format it as "Michigan–Wisconsin state line", but "Pennsylvania – New York state line". {{jct}} mimics this with the slashes, but the MOS was changed a few years ago to drop the spacing requirement, so now "Pennsylvania–New York state line" is correct, and the other example is not. {{jct}} hasn't been updated yet, but it really should be. Imzadi 1979 → 17:26, 14 December 2021 (UTC)

Another piece of feedback: not all states call their roadways "routes". "US Highway" is just as valid as "US Route", and in many states, they have "county roads", not "county routes". A good rule of thumb is that if that state calls them state routes, then they have US Routes and county routes. Otherwise, they are US Highways and usually county roads. Imzadi 1979 → 05:02, 25 December 2021 (UTC)

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Revert at I-355

My reversion may have been a blunt move, but it was easier than trying to undo the problems and save the rest.

To wit:

• We don't actually need to use non-breaking spaces in many of the locations where you added them. For example, 75th Street doesn't need one; the line could break there without being an issue.
• "west side" is two separate words.
• About half of the references to ISTHA could have remained as "tollway authority" for variety in wording. I-355 is a Featured Article, so the prose quality needs to remain high, and repetitive uses of an acronym can be bad writing.
• Not all references to a cross road need to be "highway abbreviation (name)"; the other format may be preferable if the road is better known by name rather than number.
• The preferred plural is "oases" in Illinois, not "oasises" (which my spell check flags as misspelled).
• When referencing something stated by a municipality, like "Village of New Lenox", then yes, "Village" should be capitalized.
• "pre-opening" should have a hyphen. Ditto "multi-use".
• The decimal points should be retained in the mileages for consistency. I'd agree with removing all the ".0"s if there weren't ".5"s and the like in that paragraph too.

I appreciate that you did not change any fully spelled out highway name links to just the abbrevation redirects this time. For various reasons, it's a better idea to use [[Illinois Route 53|IL 53]] than [[IL 53]]. (Yes, you can use a non-breaking space in a link.) Imzadi 1979 → 03:42, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

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Revert on Interstate 69 in Michigan

I reverted for the following reasons:

1. The jct template does not hyphenate US Highways in Michigan, and yet you changed the abbreviation convention to be inconsistent with the the template.
2. "North Drive North"? Sorry, but the major roadways in that county are lettered, and that one happens to be called N Drive because it falls between M Drive and O Drive. Please double check before editing things to make sure you aren't adding inaccuracies.
3. "Old M-78" is the name of a road. See #2 above.
4. The name of the highway that I-69 connects to at the international border is "Highway 402". Our article may be titled with the province in the name, but that doesn't mean that is restates the actual designation.
5. Honestly, dates do not need non-breaking spaces, or else that would be listed in MOS:DATE.
6. The MDOT railroad map is only citing the names of rail lines. The rest of that one sentence comes from other sources. Source–prose integrity is important.
7. Each half of "This alternative highway was maintained on the 1955 plan for the "National System of Interstate and Defense Highways" and numbered I-67 in August 1957." was cited to a different map, and it's better to maintain the connection between sentence segments with the respective source than to bundle both footnotes at the end.

Featured Articles have already been reviewed and judged to be part of "our finest work". That doesn't mean that there aren't things that could be done to improve them, but please don't make them worse with your editing. Imzadi 1979 → 06:49, 30 March 2022 (UTC)

Revert on Interstate 70 in West Virginia

I can't believe that I have to tell you that "oneway" is not a word, and it should have its hyphen. (Many compound words should have hyphens that you've been removing.)

Also, please don't indiscriminately move footnotes around. Sometimes they're very specifically placed in the middle of a sentence for a very specific reason.

Lastly, do you not reply to messages on your talk page, ever? Imzadi 1979 → 05:37, 8 April 2022 (UTC)

My bad for unhyphenating "one-way" and moving the footnotes. Also, I just haven't found any need to reply to messages so far. Is there any reason I should? Titan877 (talk) 15:55, 8 April 2022 (UTC)

It's just nice to get some acknowledgment after someone takes the time to offer tips and advice. Imzadi 1979 → 17:24, 8 April 2022 (UTC)

Got it. Thanks. Titan877 (talk) 17:39, 8 April 2022 (UTC)

Interstate 74 lengths

It looks like you added added Google Maps sources for segments in North Carolina to the length from the 2002 FHWA source to derive a new total length for I-74. This is problematic. Maybe you didn't know that the 2002 Route Log and Finder List has been updated, and it's current as of earlier this year. In fact, the links to the old 2002 source redirect to the newer listing at the FHWA website. So I just updated the source and the lengths from within it. According to FHWA, I-74 is shorter than your computations, so either you double counted something FHWA had already counted, or you counted something FHWA doesn't consider to be I-74 yet. Imzadi 1979 → 18:56, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

Thank you for fixing that, but I didn’t make those computations. I actually got them from the length said on the Interstate 74 in North Carolina article. I can fix the one on that article if needed. Titan877 (talk) 19:34, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

That's one thing we as a project need to try to watch sometimes: the state articles getting updates that the national one lacks, and vice versa. When it comes to highways in active or semi-active construction, there will be some level of uncertainty/inconsistency as well. Imzadi 1979 → 20:45, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

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SPUI variants

I marked the whole "variants" section of Single-point urban interchange with a neologism template. For example, when I do a Google search for "inverted SPUI" with quotes, every one of the few results that I get appear to be either WP articles or their mirrors, or blog or forum posts, except this Virginia DOT document, and even that puts it in quotes, implying that it's not an established term, and even if it can be shown that it is, two mentions in one document of one transportation agency probably aren't enough to make it usable on WP. Mapsax (talk) 01:50, 16 May 2022 (UTC)

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I don’t understand what you mean by citing a “December 2022 resource in July 2022”. Also, I got the length numbers from the FHWA Route Log on the FHWA website. Titan877 (talk) 20:33, 27 July 2022 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) @Titan877: I think he means that in this edit, you ascribed a December 31, 2022, publication date for the FHWA Route Log and Finder List webpage. This is logically impossible as it's only July 2022. Imzadi 1979 → 21:21, 27 July 2022 (UTC)

Abbreviations

When abbreviating highway designations for special routes, don't forget to put a period at the end of "Alt.", "Bus.", and "Byp." and so on. This is standard in American English, and in this case, it also helps to prevent a possible ambiguity between a business route and a bus route. Imzadi 1979 → 20:00, 4 September 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for the advice. Will do that from now on. Titan877 (talk) 20:04, 4 September 2022 (UTC)

If you know of articles that need correction, could you go back and make that correction? Imzadi 1979 → 20:45, 4 September 2022 (UTC)

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Formatting issue

I had to revert part of your edit here for semantic reasons. While cosmetically nothing looks different, and your format looks simpler, there is a semantic reason why you should not start a line with a semicolon like that. The rendered text tells screen readers that those lines are part of a definition list, like dictionary definitions. By just making them bold, we avoid that semantic meaning. Imzadi 1979 → 20:42, 26 February 2023 (UTC)

"Hatnote"

In this edit, you didn't add a hatnote. You added a maintenance template. Hatnotes are the things like:

This article is about the section of highway in Michigan. For the entire length of highway, see U.S. Route 41.

at the top of U.S. Route 41 in Michigan. Calling the other templates a hatnote in the edit summary is confusing. Imzadi 1979 → 23:29, 27 March 2023 (UTC)

Sorry about that. I will remember the correct term next time. Titan877 (talk) 23:31, 27 March 2023 (UTC)

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Special routes of U.S. Route 10 moved to draftspace

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In short, that draft was not ready for main space. The article sections need more content than an infobox for the page to be moved over. We've tagged articles that were just an infobox for deletion, so at a minimum, I would expect to see a paragraph of prose in each section before that draft is moved back. Were it found by a less charitable editor, it would have been nominated for deletion instead of reverting your publication. Imzadi 1979 → 02:57, 30 April 2023 (UTC)

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