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Sapient Leadership tagged for deletion[edit]

Hello TotoroAndFriends12, I wanted to let you know that I've tagged Sapient Leadership for deletion because the article is too promotional for an encyclopedia. If you feel that this assessment is incorrect, you can either edit the article to remove the promotional parts or you can click on the "Contest this deletion" button and explain it on the talk page, but please don't remove the speedy deletion tag from the top. You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions. – Thjarkur (talk) 12:55, 19 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

We try to just summarize what reliable secondary sources have said about topics. From what I can see, reliable secondary sources haven't discussed Sapient Leadership much. – Thjarkur (talk) 12:59, 19 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome![edit]

Hello, TotoroAndFriends12, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions.

I noticed that one of the first articles you edited appears to be dealing with a topic with which you may have a conflict of interest. In other words, you may find it difficult to write about that topic in a neutral and objective way, because you are, work for, or represent, the subject of that article. Your recent contributions may have already been undone for this very reason.

To reduce the chances of your contributions being undone, you might like to draft your revised article before submission, and then ask me or another editor to proofread it. See our help page on userspace drafts for more details. If the page you created has already been deleted from Wikipedia, but you want to save the content from it to use for that draft, don't hesitate to ask anyone from this list and they will copy it to your user page.

One rule we do have in connection with conflicts of interest is that accounts used by more than one person will unfortunately be blocked from editing. Wikipedia generally does not allow editors to have usernames which imply that the account belongs to a company or corporation. If you have a username like this, you should request a change of username or create a new account. (A name that identifies the user as an individual within a given organization may be OK.)

In addition, if you receive, or expect to receive, compensation for any contribution you make, you must disclose your employer, client, and affiliation to comply with our terms of use and our policy on paid editing.

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I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your messages on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically insert your username and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or ask your question on this page and then place {{Help me}} before the question. Again, welcome! Jimfbleak - talk to me? 13:34, 19 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Jimfbleak:. Thank you for your note and feedback; it's nice to connect. I hope you and yours are enjoying a healthy and peaceful Thanksgiving. I look forward to getting in touch after the holiday. Kind regards. TotoroAndFriends12 (talk) 20:16, 26 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Jimfbleak: I hope you're doing well. I would like to get back to editing the article I added on Sapient Leadership. Can you please help me get the text back and also give me some pointers and guidance to help me make it better for the Wikipedia community? Thank you. Kind regards, TotoroAndFriends12 (talk) 06:46, 30 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Managing a conflict of interest[edit]

Information icon Hello, TotoroAndFriends12. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things you have written about in the page Ron Gutman, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a conflict of interest may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for organizations for more information. We ask that you:

  • avoid editing or creating articles about yourself, your family, friends, colleagues, company, organization or competitors;
  • propose changes on the talk pages of affected articles (you can use the {{request edit}} template);
  • disclose your conflict of interest when discussing affected articles (see Wikipedia:Conflict of interest#How to disclose a COI);
  • avoid linking to your organization's website in other articles (see WP:Spam);
  • do your best to comply with Wikipedia's content policies.

In addition, you are required by the Wikimedia Foundation's terms of use to disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution which forms all or part of work for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation. See Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure.

Also, editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. Thank you. – Thjarkur (talk) 20:50, 19 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Your additions to Ron Gutman are far too promotional. Copy fit for a marketing brochure is not fit for an encyclopedia. Please use the article's talk page (with the {{request edit}} template) to ask someone who is not involved with the subject to add content to the page. – Thjarkur (talk) 20:54, 19 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
You claimed this is your "own work". Do you still claim, as you did to @Þjarkur:, that you have "No conflict of interest"? Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 21:31, 19 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Hi @Suffusion of Yellow:. Nice to connect. Thanks for reaching out. Yes, I do. Have a good weekend. TotoroAndFriends12 (talk) 04:24, 21 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

November 2020[edit]

Warning icon Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to add promotional or advertising material to Wikipedia, as you did at Ron Gutman, you may be blocked from editing. Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 18:16, 25 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Suffusion of Yellow:. I hope you and yours are well and having a healthy, peaceful Thanksgiving. I appreciate your feedback and look forward to connecting with you after the holiday. Thanks. TotoroAndFriends12 (talk) 20:12, 26 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Suffusion of Yellow:

I hope you had a good holiday.

Sorry for the delay in getting back to you; I got a bit busy.

Thanks again for your feedback. I'm committed to learning and growth and am happy to work with you to do this right. I drafted some edits — which are factual, timely, and relevant — to this history, which is not currently up to date on this page. I made sure to make them non-promotional, as you suggested. If these are all good, I'll go ahead and post them, and I will continue my research when I have some more time.

Thank you.

Kind regards, TotoroAndFriends12 (talk) 19:12, 13 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Gutman founded the Live Long & Flourish Club (LL&F) to map, research, and scientifically validate the most effective health solutions for living healthier, happier, and longer lives.

Gutman also founded the non-profit organization FestiHealth at the onset of the COVID-19 crisis, an interactive platform that curated speakers, wellness activities, and a virtual expo of health-tech solutions to help organizations and individuals live and foster healthier and happier lives at no cost.

If you can't see how that reads exactly like an advertisement, I don't know what to say. Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 20:07, 18 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Hi @Suffusion of Yellow: Thank you for your feedback; I really appreciate it. I looked at the guidelines again and ran these edits by other people, and with all honesty, I feel that these paragraphs represent the current facts about this person (whereas the current history on the page is outdated). Having said that, I'm always happy to learn and would welcome your suggestions of how to write this in a way that you think is not advertising. Feel free to send me your comments so we can move forward and update this page. Thank you. Kind regards, TotoroAndFriends12 (talk) 21:00, 19 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Hi @Suffusion of Yellow: I hope you're enjoying a nice holiday season. I'm following up as I've been looking forward to hearing back from you about this article. I looked into the guidelines again and even consulted with experts in my community, and neither using the guidelines nor the experts found advertising in the edits I sent you. What we did find, however, is that this article in its current form is not serving Wikipedia's mission of representing the facts, which are currently both lacking and inaccurate. Nonetheless, I am still happy to get your experienced guidance based on the guidelines on how to write this better. Please feel free to send me your suggestions so we can accomplish our mutual goal of making Wikipedia a great source of trusted information. Otherwise, I'm happy to go ahead and post the suggested edits I have already submitted. Many thanks for your help and Happy Holidays! TotoroAndFriends12 (talk) 21:31, 26 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Hi @Suffusion of Yellow: I hope you're well. I wrote to you a few days ago but didn't hear back, and just to reiterate, I'm happy to work with you together to ensure this article actually reflects reality. My intention has always been and still is to write something that is accurate and not mistakenly interpreted as "advertising." Once again, I am happy to get your guidance if you have any suggestions. Otherwise, I'm happy to post it as is to make sure that the article doesn't continue to misrepresent the reality as it stands. Thank you. Kind regards, TotoroAndFriends12 (talk) 05:50, 30 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Hi @Suffusion of Yellow: I was surprised to see that you reverted my edits again. I invested a lot of time and energy researching and validating the facts and rewriting this section based on your initial suggestions. I asked you three times for your feedback, and you didn't send me any suggestions. If you have any constructive feedback, please share it; as I mentioned before, I ran this by multiple qualified people, and none of them found any issues that contradict Wikipedia's guidelines. If you don't have any suggestions, I will post the edits again, and please leave the facts where they belong. TotoroAndFriends12 (talk) 03:20, 11 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I'd suggest replying at WP:COIN#Ron Gutman instead. I'm done here. If you need it explained to you why help organizations and individuals live and foster healthier and happier lives at no cost is plain pure spam, I can't help you. Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 03:26, 11 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Comments[edit]

You have already been told that if you have a conflict of interest , you must declare it. In particular, if you work directly or indirectly for an organisation, or otherwise are acting on its behalf, you are very strongly discouraged from attempting to write an article at all. If you are paid directly or indirectly by the organisation you are writing about, you are required by the Wikimedia Terms of Use to disclose your employer, client and affiliation. You can post such a mandatory disclosure to your user page at User:TotoroAndFriends12. The template {{Paid}} can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form: {{paid|user=TotoroAndFriends12|employer=InsertName|client=InsertName}}. If you are being compensated, please provide the required disclosure. Note that editing with a COI is discouraged, but permitted as long as it is declared. Concealing a COI can lead to a block. Please do not edit further until you respond to this message. Also read the following regarding writing an article:

  • you must provide independent verifiable sources to enable us to verify the facts and show that it meets the notability guidelines. Sources that are not acceptable include those linked to the organisation or company, press releases, YouTube, IMDB, social media and other sites that can be self-edited, logs, websites of unknown or non-reliable provenance, and sites that are just reporting what the company or organisation claims or interviewing its management. Note that references should be in-line so we can tell what fact each is supporting, and should not be bare urls. Most of your text is completely unrefrenced, and the only two refs you do have are unacceptable, one is a COI primary source, the other is YouTube.
  • You need independent third-party sources to show notability. There are five components that must be evaluated separately and independently to determine if it is met:
  1. significant coverage in
  2. independent,
  3. multiple,
  4. reliable,
  5. secondary sources.
Note that an individual source must meet all four criteria to be counted towards notability. Your text is a bit of history and "this is what we do", but the organisation
  • You must write in a non-promotional tone. Articles must be neutral and encyclopaedic, with verifiable facts, not opinions or reviews. The whole text is just promoting the theory, but statements like Sapient Leadership provides leaders a useful framework for creating perpetual, pervasive, and exponential capacity building necessary for handling 3-D change effectively... Sapient Leaders and their successful organizations change with change itself. are present without any independent evaluation that shows this to be true, rather than promo.
  • There shouldn't be any url links in the article, only in the "References" or "External links" sections
  • You must not copy text from elsewhere. Copyrighted text is not allowed in Wikipedia, as outlined in this policy. That applies even to pages created by you or your organisation, unless they state clearly and explicitly that the text is public domain. We require that text posted here can be used, modified and distributed for any purpose, including commercial; text is considered to be copyright unless explicitly stated otherwise. There are ways to donate copyrighted text to Wikipedia, as described here; please note that simply asserting on the talk page that you are the owner of the copyright, or you have permission to use the text, isn't sufficient.

Before attempting to write an article again, please make sure that the topic meets the notability criteria linked above, and check that you can find independent third party sources. Also read Your first article. You must also reply to the COI request above. Jimfbleak - talk to me? 11:23, 30 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Jimfbleak: Thank you for all of this helpful information. I’m learning a lot and looking forward to getting back to editing soon with all of this in mind. I respect your COI request and understand why it's so important, and after reading very carefully everything that you shared with me, I'm happy to report that there isn't any COI. I now understand all the needs for independent third-party sources to show notability and all the five components you mentioned, and they make sense. When I have some free time, I will seek additional sources that will support Sapient Leadership.

Also, could you please let me know what you meant by the following two points that you made? 1) “Your text is a bit of history and "this is what we do", but the organisation” 2) “There shouldn't be any url links in the article, only in the "References" or "External links" sections” (I went over my draft again and didn't find any exposed external URLs in the article; could you please point me to them in the article so I can remove them?)

Finally, I'm happy to work more on the tone and the text when I have a little bit of free time to get back to it.

Thanks so much again for taking the time to provide valuable guidance; I'm looking forward to continue working with you on this.

Kind regards, TotoroAndFriends12 (talk) 06:58, 2 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

What I meant by the first comment is that you tell us about the origins and principles, but your text, totally lacking in independent third-party sources, gives absolutely no indication of why the topic is notable as defined by our guidelines. As it stands, it's just someone's essay or original research and doesn't merit an article here. You need to show, with proper refs, that major organisations (not Stanford) have adopted this approach for it to have any chance
The url link was a general guideline, I accept that you didn't have any.
Jimfbleak - talk to me? 11:35, 2 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Notice of Conflict of interest noticeboard discussion[edit]

Information icon There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Conflict of interest/Noticeboard regarding a possible conflict of interest incident with which you may be involved. The thread is Ron Gutman. Thank you. Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 03:21, 11 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

For those of us from another generation[edit]

I was about to give you a warning for having a username that suggested you were more than one person - someone named Totoro and some friends of someone name Totoro. Yeah, I'm old.

I didn't realize "Totoro And Friends" was a thing until I fired up ye olde fashioned internet search engine. Now I feel really old. Sigh, well, at least I remember the 20th century. But not the 1960s - as they say, "if you remember the '60s, you weren't there." davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 17:05, 11 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It might be helpful for old codgers like me to put a brief statement on your user page saying you are a fan of the Totoro movie/character/universe or something. That way 1) we won't think you are breaking the rules and 2) we might learn something new. I've heard good things about the stuff that comes out of Studio Ghibli. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 17:05, 11 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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