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Your submission at Articles for creation: Birr distillery (January 23)

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Whispering^(t) 20:25, 23 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Birr Distillery has been accepted

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Theroadislong (talk) 19:45, 4 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Ways to improve Kinahans Whiskey

Hello, U238isotope,

Thank you for creating Kinahans Whiskey.

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Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 22:06, 1 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Kudpung:

Hi, thanks for pointing out the weak parts of the article, found more reliable citation sources and removed some information that I took from company's website. While verifying those statements and finding reliable citation sources left factual information only.

U238isotope (talk) 16:08, 2 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed deletion of Kinahans Whiskey

The article Kinahans Whiskey has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

questionable notability. Seems to be a re-vitalization of an old brand with new owners, dabbles in NFTs etc?

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@ZimZalaBim:

"re-vitalization of an old brand with new owners, dabbles in NFTs?" Can't get it how involvement in NFT by itself(seems to be popular stuff for the younger public nowadays) can somehow affect the credibility of a brand by itself(Haven't mentioned their NFT project in the article, strongly believe it should be focused on whiskey only).

Being whiskey enthusiast by myself, I suppose we should expand the knowledge by including new brands rather than keeping them off. Working right now on improving the article, and will appreciate any help.

It was a mistake to use a marketing kind of language (was inspired by information from their website). Now I'm cleaning all unverifiable stuff to make it concise and factual, also looking for more trustworthy sources. U238isotope (talk) 11:19, 2 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

curprev 22:22, 1 July 2022‎ ZimZalaBim talk contribs‎ 29,067 bytes −137‎ Reverted 1 edit by U238isotope (talk): Arbitrary original reseaarch, and that form of a link would be surprising undothank Tags: Twinkle Undo

That's about another article - Barrel - Wikipedia

Little bit confused here. I see, that was not a proper citation source.

Can any of these(whiskybase.com, masterofmalt.com) be used to cite the statement about the hybrid barrels? It is the whiskey industry, I suppose that established authorities in the field can be a source of a citation? Impossible to find any academic papers on that matter. Found one more trusted source - forbes.com(https://www.forbes.com/sites/felipeschrieberg/2019/03/16/5-irish-whiskeys-perfect-for-st-patricks-day/?sh=6403befc156e) U238isotope (talk) 11:29, 2 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

U238isotope (talk) 15:07, 2 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Kinahans Whiskey (July 18)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Valereee was:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of organizations and companies). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

The comment the reviewer left was:

Sources seem to be all self-source, bare mentions, general listings, etc. I'm not seeing at first glance significant coverage in independent reliable sources. We need to see three instances of such; can you point to those three, to make assessment easier for reviewers?

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valereee (talk) 13:49, 18 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Valereee:

Sources seem to be all self-source, bare mentions, general listings, etc. I'm not seeing at first glance significant coverage in independent reliable sources. We need to see three instances of such; can you point to those three, to make assessment easier for reviewers?

Hi! Here they are:

1) Dublin Historical Record

https://www.jstor.org/stable/30101677

2) Irish International Exhibition 1907, The official catalogue

https://books.google.com/books?id=AXZBAQAAMAAJ&pg=RA2-PA115&dq#v=onepage&q&f=false

3) Book by Jerry Thomas: Bar Tender's Guide: How to mix Drinks, 1862

https://books.google.com/books?id=r-x1DwAAQBAJ&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q&f=false

4) The Business Post is a Sunday newspaper distributed nationally in Ireland and an online publication and is focused mainly on business and financial issues

https://www.businesspost.ie/more-business/irish-whiskey-firm-seeks-e1-million-backing-from-investors/

5) Reputable industry magazine: thespiritsbusiness.com

https://www.thespiritsbusiness.com/2016/10/kinahans-irish-whiskey-to-re-enter-uk-market/

And others:

Reputable magazine: forbes.com

Reputable sources in the area of whiskey: iconsofwhisky.com, thewhiskeywash.com

Independent awards in the world of drinks: iwsc.net, thetastingalliance.com

Non-commercial, social sustainability organisations: origingreen.ie, quercus.pt

U238isotope (talk) 09:46, 19 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

is possibly sigcov in rs, but it doesn't appear to be independent of the subject.
is simply an ad?
is simply calling for the whiskey as an ingredient in a recipe?
is routine financial coverage.
appears to have been written from a press release.

None of these qualify as significant coverage in independent reliable sources. Please let's take any further discussion to Draft talk: Kinahans Whiskey so that other editors can easily see that there's been discussion. I'll copy this there. valereee (talk) 12:35, 19 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 15:07, 27 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft article, Draft:Kinahans Whiskey

Hello, U238isotope. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Kinahans Whiskey".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. When you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 07:03, 21 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]