User talk:Xenani/Archive 1

Adding misleading facts

Your edits on Kanniya Hot water spring clearly shows that you have deliberately removed the archaeological parts from the article giving improper reason but unprovable myths or something. This shows your normal edit pattern again, biased to the Tamil nationalism. Don't disrupt the wiki articles on your personal interests--L Manju (talk) 03:21, 10 September 2017 (UTC)

Hi L Manju. It was not my intention to edit the article according to my personal interest nor has anything to do with Tamil nationalism. I removed only uncited content and content with non reliable sources such as content from the website Amazing Lanka, according to is the site self published and thus not suited to articles on Wikipedia. I see you did some edit on the Kanniya Hot water spring article, and it seems better than the previous one. Peace Xenani (talk) 20:46, 10 September 2017 (UTC)

Wikipedia and copyright

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Hi Diannaa. Will try to avoid this for next time.Xenani (talk) 16:58, 19 September 2017 (UTC)

your edits on Meenakshi

Hi, I have reverted your edits on Meenakshi regarding etymology section. Few of the sources are not reliable and the content you added is not there in any of the given references. agasthyathepirate(talk) 11:13, 25 September 2017 (UTC)

Hi agasthyathepirate. I don't quite see why is not reliable. It is published by the Unirversity of Kerala. In aditiion I used Agarathi which again uses University of Madras Lexicon. If you think that the site itself is not reliable, here is the online version of the University of Madras Lexicon published by Tamil Virtual Academy. This site at page 68. The website is an official website by Tamil Nadu state of India. If you want can I add this page directly as etymology. It is also not clear for me how the cite you have left for the Sanskrit etymology is more reliable than mine sources, thinking that the source is by Philosophical Research society. Xenani (talk) 14:15, 26 September 2017 (UTC)

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Citations

Hi, this edit needs page numbers for the citations and, preferably, direct links to the page in the url fields. - Sitush (talk) 04:19, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

• And now you have done a similar massive change to sourced content at Vellalar. You need to discuss big edits such as these. Please note the information below. Thanks. - Sitush (talk) 00:39, 7 October 2017 (UTC)

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I have just reverted you at the Vellalar article again. You are going to have to discuss those huge changes to content, much of which appeared to be sourced. - Sitush (talk) 22:27, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

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Scripts and other issues

You keep adding Indic scripts to various articles. Please don't, per WP:INDICSCRIPT. I am also concerned about your large-scale changes to some articles, often done in one edit, that seem to amount to rewrites of the things. Big changes like that, especially if information was already sourced, usually need discussion. As indicated in a notice I gave you recently, the topic area is rife with problems and thus it is important to proceed with care than with a feeling of your own certainty. - Sitush (talk) 08:50, 23 October 2017 (UTC)

Actually, I think you may be basing the scripts on their usage in Sri Lanka, which I suspect is ok. However, we need to be careful how we treat articles such as Karaiyar, where a community exists in two different countries but the sources are only referring to one of those countries. Unless the sources indicate a commonality, we're in danger of ascribing our statements to the whole when in fact they only apply to one part. - Sitush (talk) 09:22, 23 October 2017 (UTC)

And that leads me on to another point because I've just realised that you may be unaware of the sanctions regime that applies specifically to castes etc and affects Sri Lankan communities as much as those of India and Pakistan. The notice is below. - Sitush (talk) 09:36, 23 October 2017 (UTC)

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Thank you. Will take the notes from you. Xenani (talk) 15:24, 26 October 2017 (UTC)

Your Edits to Sri Lankan Moors

Your addition of Sonakar as a "colloquial term" is not supported by the source. Please read Pg. 82 on the stated source. It is instead a Tamil term and is thus mentioned else where in the Sri Lankan Moors page as a "Tamil term". I am removing this as it is neither supported by the source, and it completely goes against the meaning of the word "colloquial". Please check a dictionary for the meaning of the work "colloquial". Best Regards Floating Philosopher. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Floating philosopher (talk • contribs) 15:30, 26 November 2017 (UTC)

Hi Floating philosopher. I don't think you have read the actuall sources. I can cite what the sources say here for you :). :" The Tamils call them, "Sonakar" a name by which they are also known among themselves." Thus the statement that they call themselves "Sonakar" is backec up by the source. Also you changed native speaker of Tamil to Arwi, which you also did here "". Arwi is not a spoken language, it is an arabic script used to write Tamil. That is even stated in the actual Arwi article. Also you changed "Scholars" to "Tamils". The source used for those sentences were referred from an foreign scholar, not a Tamil. For me, it seems that you are turning the articles to much to your own perspective instead of following what the sources indicate. Please read W:OR and WP:NPV. Peace Xenani (talk) 18:49, 26 November 2017 (UTC)

Hi User:Xenani

As your source rightly mentions the "Tamil term" for this race is sonakar, it is NOT Colloquial English (English is the language of this article). The only two terms that are Colloquial English are "Muslims" and "Moors". As your source mentions, the Tamil term for this community is Sonakar and has been mentioned else where as the "Tamil Term". I am saddened that this simple and obvious fact has led to so much debate.

I changed scholars to Tamil because the source quoted by the "Foreign Scholar" is a Tamil. Your mention of Arwi has been duely noted and corrected.

I have no intention of influencing this article with my own perspective. I am merely being specific as to the term "colloquial" and correcting its usage in keeping with its accepted meaning. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Floating philosopher (talk • contribs) 19:29, 26 November 2017 (UTC)

Hi Floating philosopher. The Scholar is a foreigner, not Tamil. The source is from John Holt of Duke University. He is certainly not Tamil. I will only correct on that. And also, you added Sinhalese as one of their native tongue. You need to add a reliable citation for that part statement.Xenani (talk) 19:42, 26 November 2017 (UTC)

Hi User:Xenani

John Holt is certainly not Tamil, as he is not the author of the text in the book. His book is a compilation of works authored by a Tamil, namely Sir Ponnambalam Ramanathan, amongst others. Therefore this information cannot be attributed to John Holt. In addition, the page cited leads to the text that counters Ponnambalams claims within the same book. (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 00:19, 29 November 2017 (UTC)

Could you refer to which specific page that cites this claim? Xenani (talk) 16:48, 29 November 2017 (UTC)

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