User talk:Youtr21

Your username[edit]

Welcome to Wikipedia. I saw that you edited or created Draft:Youtrade ECSA, and I noticed that your username, "Youtr21", may not comply with our username policy. Please note that you may not use a username that represents the name of a company, group, organization, product, service, or website. Examples of usernames that are not allowed include "XYZ Company", "MyWidgetsUSA.com", and "Foobar Museum of Art". However, you are permitted to use a username that contains such a name if it identifies you individually (not your role), such as "Sara Smith at XYZ Company", "Mark at WidgetsUSA", or "FoobarFan87", but not "SEO Manager at XYZ Company".

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Youtrade ECSA (December 21)[edit]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by DoubleGrazing were:

This draft's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article. In summary, the draft needs multiple published sources that are:

in-depth (not just brief mentions about the subject or routine announcements)
reliable
secondary
strictly independent of the subject

Make sure you add references that meet all four of these criteria before resubmitting. Learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue. If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

This submission appears to read more like an advertisement than an entry in an encyclopedia. Encyclopedia articles need to be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources, not just to materials produced by the creator of the subject being discussed. This is important so that the article can meet Wikipedia's verifiability policy and the notability of the subject can be established. If you still feel that this subject is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia, please rewrite your submission to comply with these policies.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Youtrade ECSA and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
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DoubleGrazing (talk) 10:40, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Youtr21! Having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! DoubleGrazing (talk) 10:40, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of Draft:Youtrade ECSA[edit]

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A tag has been placed on Draft:Youtrade ECSA, requesting that it be deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under two or more of the criteria for speedy deletion, by which pages can be deleted at any time, without discussion. If the page meets any of these strictly defined criteria, then it may soon be deleted by an administrator. The reasons it has been tagged are:

It seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service, person, or point of view and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. (See section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion.) Please read the guidelines on spam and Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations for more information.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator, or if you have already done so, you can place a request here. DoubleGrazing (talk) 10:41, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

December 2023[edit]

This account has been blocked indefinitely as a sockpuppet that was created to violate Wikipedia policy. Note that using multiple accounts is allowed, but using them for illegitimate reasons is not, and that all edits made while evading a block or ban may be reverted or deleted. If this account is not a sockpuppet, and you would like to be unblocked, you may appeal this block by first reading the guide to appealing blocks, then adding the text {{unblock|Your reason here ~~~~}} below. Jimfbleak - talk to me? 11:26, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Youtr21 (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

"I`ve received a feedback regarding what i did wrong in my previous article version. I`m ready to solve issue with the article. Would also appreciate if you`ll share a source where i can receive a review of my article and detailed feedback, before publishing it." Youtr21 (talk) 10:41, 26 December 2023 (UTC)}[reply]

Decline reason:

We'll get to that stuff, but you are blocked for sock puppetry and will need to speak to that. 331dot (talk) 10:49, 26 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Unblock Discussion[edit]

@331dot, as you mentioned in response, we need to speak to that. My name is Mark. So how can we start this discussion? To be honest i`m a little bit tired, trying to catch someone related to Wikipedia and receive relevant answer to my questions, or some feedback refer my account block. I`d appreciate if you could share the links or credentials in order to start discussion about my account block, and my last article. Youtr21 (talk) 11:13, 26 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You just need to make a new unblock request where you discuss the sock puppetry, or explain why it isn't sock puppetry. There is no deadline for this, it doesn't need to be done quickly. I woukd suggest reading the unblock appeals guide, as well as WP:SOCK. 331dot (talk) 13:54, 26 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Youtr21 (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

I get into details of [[1]] article. According to context of the article, i was blocked for publishing article with the same name as other user made. Partially it is correct. Let me explain the situation: 1) I created user Markl1n (it`s shortened version of my name and surname - Mark Lindt) to publish article about Youtrade ECSA. My first article was really raw, because it was my first experience, so i was blocked. 2) I found more details and rules, how to write wikipedia article and decided to create new account. The idea of creating Youtr21 account is explained both by saving time (cause i didn`t know how to unblock account or that it influence on publishing next articles and so on) and by creating separate account, where i will publish only article about Youtrade ECSA (just a best practise for every engineer person. Separate credentials, separate account for specific need). Currently i understand that it can be defined as sockpuppetry and going to proceed working on Youtr21 account. In case i need to request some appeal to delete my previous account, please note me in next message. 3) Beside that reason, i want to clarify my article block reason (promotional actions). Because second version of my article include only side view and any promotional text. The summary of the article is events where company took part, awards it has. About restructurization, changing head director, some financial statistics. New version also include references, according to Wikipedia requirements. What i want to say, that i`m not really understand how i can improve my article to get it validated? Regarding events, that pretty all about the company. Regarding history, it`s pretty all, too. I believe it`s not necessary to describe who was hired or fired during that term. Financial statistics has links to document. It would be really welly to get some relevant details what to improve. Thank you, and appreciate your response. Youtr21 (talk) 09:16, 27 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Decline reason:

Absolutely ludicrous to falsely claim engineering best practice is separate credentials and a separate account for each specific need, in violation of website policies. Yamla (talk) 13:41, 27 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

Unblock request #2 answer[edit]

@Yamla Thank you for your response, but I`m a little bit confused. 1) First things first, it`s really interesting to hear from administrator, that keep separate accounts for specific need is not a part of security policy. I worked as system administrator, system engineer, DevOps engineer and even as a web developer for a short term, but I believe you were not unsubstantiated, so please provide me source, where it`s recommended to manage several projects from one recovery point. 1.1) I'd like to point out, that in my request I mentioned, that it was one of the reasons, why I didn`t keep trying to do something with my first account. Despite logically meaning security policy here, what is the problem for creating new account for the same purpose? Let me give an example how i can see this situation: When I go to the ATM point, paste my card to the ATM, but can`t cash out money, what will I do next? As per my point of view I can use second ATM nearby, which will successfully cash out my money. I`m not trying to fix ATM. 2) Secondly, I wish to see some feedback refer 3-rd party of my unblock request. From time to time, each administrator or freelance helpdesk representative pass through this question. Looking forward to your answer! Youtr21 (talk) 14:50, 27 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Unblock continue[edit]

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Youtr21 (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

@Yamla, appreciate your feedback refer my last answer. As I mentioned, I`m totally confused why you find "keep separate accounts for specific need is not a part of security policy" and ludicrous. Hope you will provide some extra details on your answer. Additionally, I appreciate an answer refer my article, and questions from my previous message.Youtr21 (talk) 10:06, 29 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Decline reason:

Not a valid unblock request that addresses the reason for the block. — JJMC89 (T·C) 22:11, 29 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

Unblock Continue #2[edit]

I`m writing to a request account unblock. During previous disscussion I managed to understand what is the main reason of my block. However i don`t have any promotional goals. As i described to previous admin, i`ve created second account because was not really into Wikipedia account policies. However now i understand what was wrong and ready to improve my article. Youtr21 (talk) 08:31, 8 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have looked at the drafts you created. To claim that you "don't have any promotional goals" is absurd: both versions were unambiguous pieces of marketing copy. If you are interested in starting to contribute to Wikipedia in a neutral way, about subjects other than your business, then you are welcome to post another unblock request. However, in view of the fact that you are apparently unable to see the promotional nature of your own editing, I very much doubt that any administrator will unblock you in order to allow you to return to writing about your business. JBW (talk) 18:53, 8 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]