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August 24[edit]

Why Am I Not On Here[edit]

Just wondering, I do a search for my name and 15 films or tv shows I am in come up. That is only about 15% of the credits I have but STILL I would think that is enough to have a page on here. SO who decides who tells my story? How do I get on here? Most recently, 5 episodes of season 2 OUTER BANKS (Gavin the pilot). Can you help?

Adam Vernier — Preceding unsigned comment added by Adamisinflorida (talkcontribs)

There is no central governing body on Wikipedia to decide who "gets on Wikipedia". Each Wikipedia editor works independently and decides for themselves what to write articles about. If some Wikipedia editor thinks you are notable, they might write an article about you sooner or later. This requires that independent reliable sources have published material about you before. To "get on Wikipedia", you should just keep on continuing your work. Asking for an article about yourself will not help. Lastly, you have to consider whether you even want to be on Wikipedia. Any article about you will not be owned or controlled by you in any way, and will possibly include content unfavourable to you if there is need for such content. JIP | Talk 02:25, 24 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Adamisinflorida: Hi there! Back in 2019, you created User:Adamisinflorida/sandbox/Adam Vernier to try to write your autobiography in your userspace, but did not include any independent reliable sources. Writing an autobiography on Wikipedia is an example of conflict of interest editing and is strongly discouraged - see Wikipedia:Autobiography. As JIP wrote above, an article about yourself isn't necessarily a good thing. In order for someone to create an article, they must demonstrate that the subject meets Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, called "notability". For actors, see WP:NACTOR. Hope these links help! GoingBatty (talk) 04:18, 24 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Replied at your talkpage. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:32, 24 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Needs help on moving the main article (Artist Page) from a sandbox link[edit]

i have created a page for the composer (Sidhartha Mohan) of the movie - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Shafiq_Karthiga

after publishing i can see it is located in a wrong link - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Kevinlittle71/sandbox

can someone help me move it to the link "sidhartha Mohan" ?

thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kevinlittle71 (talkcontribs) 07:23, 24 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I've added a {{user sandbox}} template to allow you to submit the draft for AFC review when you are ready. I also added a heading to the references section. - David Biddulph (talk) 07:31, 24 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Kevinlittle71, I'd recommend reading Help:Your first article before proceeding any further: you are going to need to provide more evidence of significant coverage of Mohan in third-party sources in order to ensure that your article meets Wikipedia 'notability' requirements. See Wikipedia:Notability (people) for further details. AndyTheGrump (talk) 07:47, 24 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Please help by adding Sheger to Oromia[edit]

I had edit request at Talk:Oromia § Protected edit request on 23 August 2021 to add Sheger in the lede of article and didn't respond. Please help me to add to the article. Regards The Supermind (talk) 07:48, 24 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The request was made only yesterday. Please be patient. --David Biddulph (talk) 07:52, 24 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
(edit conflict) @The Supermind: There is an ongoing thread at the link provided (of which you have been a part). Please continue with that discussion. Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 07:56, 24 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Eagleash: I'm not conflicting but I would like to insert at the lede section of the article that I detailed at the discussion with providing sources. The Supermind (talk) 08:27, 24 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@The Supermind: The right place to discuss changes to the article is at its talk page; please resolve the matter there and as David says above, some degree of patience may be required. Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 09:34, 24 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

External links been removed[edit]

Hi, I add a useful external link show all 500 Plus Traditional Colors of China (https://color-term.com/traditional-color-of-china), for wiki page "Color Term" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_term).

Later, I found page "Color in Chinese culture" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_in_Chinese_culture) is similer topic, so I add the same link (https://color-term.com/traditional-color-of-china). When I did it, the both two link been removed by "Serols".

Serols talk to me: Hello, I'm Serols. I wanted to let you know that one of your recent contributions—specifically this edit to Color in Chinese culture—has been undone because it appeared to be promotional. Advertising and using Wikipedia as a "soapbox" are against Wikipedia policy and not permitted; Wikipedia articles should be written objectively, using independent sources, and from a neutral perspective. Please take a look at the welcome page to learn more about Wikipedia. If you have any questions, you can ask for assistance at the Help desk. Thank you. Serols (talk) 07:19, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

I think the link I added is really useful for the topic. Did I doing the thing with wrong way? And if it's possible add the link back? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Heyulei (talkcontribs) 09:27, 24 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

John Webster (orator)[edit]

I have nominated the article John Webster (orator) for deletion, but this is the first time I have done it and I'm not sure if I got the technicalities right. Could someone please check it for me? Sardaka (talk) 09:49, 24 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

There are 3 parts to the process of submitting an AFD, but you've missed part of the process. The easiest way of doing it is with a tool such as Twinkle. --David Biddulph (talk) 10:40, 24 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Sardaka Yes, Twinkle makes this so much easier. You should state at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/John Webster (orator) why you think it should be deleted, and it should be added to some afd-lists so people know there is a discussion. LaundryPizza03, can you help with that? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 10:46, 24 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Sardaka, you've left the key page, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/John Webster (orator), blank; and instead you've written what might go there to Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion/John Webster (orator). (Talk pages of AfDs are seldom used and seldom noticed.) That aside, are you confident that your reasons for deletion accord with policy, and have you actually read up on the relevant notability criteria? -- Hoary (talk) 11:08, 24 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Sardaka: - I just notified the article creator on their talk page. It's not a strict requirement, but is a nice courtesy to give people a chance to defend their contributions. TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 22:41, 24 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hassan Elamragy[edit]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft_talk:Hassan_Elamragy

I want to publish my project to the public and not as a modern project or a draftAl3mrgy (talk) 11:15, 24 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

You, Al3mrgy, then moved it to Hassan Elamragy. I then deleted it. This deletion was the fourth time it was deleted. As you have been told, you provide no indication that Hassan Elamragy is notable (by Wikipedia standards). He's very young; perhaps wait a year or longer? -- Hoary (talk) 11:33, 24 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
You were told that your draft was not fit for mainspace, and yet you moved it there, so it will be no surprise that it has been deleted for at least the third time. Continually recreating it is liable to cause the title to be salted, and may result in your account being blocked for tendentious editing. Please read the criteria for naotability for biographies. --David Biddulph (talk) 11:36, 24 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
For the fourth time, and I've already salted it. Al3mrgy, you are free to create a draft at Draft:Hassan Elamragy, if the draft accords with Wikipedia policy. See in particular Wikipedia:Notability (sports). If you create a good draft, then a more experienced editor will be able to move it to Hassan Elamragy. However, if there's not much more that you can say about Hassan Elamragy than what you've already said, please don't bother trying to say it: you'd just be wasting your own and other people's time. -- Hoary (talk) 11:43, 24 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Anomie Bot[edit]

I have had AnomieBot "rescure" certain of my references on articles I am working on. However to me that is a nuisance. In the long run it is extra work for me, to undo what it did. Is there a way I can "opp out" of this feature, where it doesn't do it functions on articles I am working on? This is a recent example. I'll fix my own errors = less work to me overall.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 12:15, 24 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

User:AnomieBOT is in Category:Wikipedia bots which are exclusion compliant so you can use {{bots|deny=AnomieBOT}} on the article, but I advice against it. You broke a reference in [1] and AnomieBot fixed it correctly two hours later. There is no way of knowing whether and when you will fix other references you break, or whether you remove {{bots|deny=AnomieBOT}} at an appropriate time. It may block other tasks by the bot. If you save a page with errors then I think everybody, including bots, should be free to fix it. It sounds like ownership to disallow it. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:56, 24 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Alright, I leave it alone. Thanks for advice. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 15:45, 24 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Comment on Wikipedia Page for Changtang Wildlife Refuge in China[edit]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chang_Tang_Nature_Reserve

I believe the english transliteration is better shown as "Qiang Tang Nature Reserve".

Just a suggestion.

regards

CloudBridgeBod.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.28.59.151 (talk) 13:24, 24 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

You could, of course, use the article talk page to suggest an alternative title. but a number of the existing references and links seem to favour the current title. See WP:COMMONNAME. A redirect from the alternative title might be a possibility. --David Biddulph (talk) 13:29, 24 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Create a redirect[edit]

Hello, I am trying to create a redirect from Moises Fuentes Garcia to Moisés Fuentes (swimmer). So I created it in Draft:Moises Fuentes Garcia but when sending it to review it asks for sources, the redirects should not ask for them. I sent it to Pending AfC submissions although I understand that it is for articles, is there a special one for redirects? Thanks. Andotero7 (talk) 15:58, 24 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Answered. Thanks. Andotero7 (talk) 16:04, 24 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Also, once you've done at least 10 edits on Wikipedia (and your account is over 4 days old), you'll become autoconfirmed, and will be able to create in mainspace directly. Joseph2302 (talk) 16:12, 24 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

File facing[edit]

Can someone point me to the guideline about file subjects should face the page text and not off page. Thirteen years and I just cannot find it. - FlightTime (open channel) 18:45, 24 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@FlightTime: WP:IMGLOC#Location what you are looking for? (2nd para after the 3 images). Eagleash (talk) 18:51, 24 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Eagleash: It has some of the language I was looking for, but doesn't mention "off page" I think I can work with this. Thanx :) - FlightTime (open channel) 19:04, 24 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
This is a well-established principle in publishing and graphic design generally, not just specific to Wikipedia, so no-one may have thought it necessary to spell it out here. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 2.121.162.207 (talk) 12:27, 25 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

How to format image[edit]

Hello, I am writing the "Baitoa" article in wikipedia and anytime I insert a thumb image to the left, it goes past the section that the image was typed into and extends to the next section, and at the same time, pushes the text from the subsequent section to the right. What can I do to make sure that the image fits under one heading and does not spill over the next? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Noelshafi (talkcontribs) 21:03, 24 August 2021 (UTC)Noelshafi (talk) 21:10, 24 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Noelshafi: Use [[File:Image|thumb|left|caption]]. Replace "Image" with the file name and "caption" with the image caption. Keep everything else the same. Place it directly under the heading you want it to to appear under. ––FormalDude talk 21:26, 24 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I see what you're saying now. The image extends into the next section simply because the image is bigger than the section that it is in. There's no way to prevent this without expanding the section, or making the image very very small. I'd recommend just allowing it to extend pass that section, but preferably keeping them aligned right rather than aligned left. ––FormalDude talk 21:29, 24 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Noelshafi: you can force the next section to start after the image by adding {{clear}} immediately prior to the new section header. The drawback will be that this can leave a large blank space, especially on a wide display. -Arch dude (talk) 21:56, 24 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Noelshafi: You may want to use the {{clear}} template right before the next section, if you don't mind a little whitespace before the next section. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 21:57, 24 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you all!Noelshafi (talk) 22:14, 24 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]