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"How can I help?"[edit]

I created this page in response to a talk page message. If anyone has ideas for easy ways in which newcomers can participate, go for it czar 17:26, 27 January 2019 (UTC)

Thanks, that's helpful! One suggestion: what about renaming "Popular Articles" to "Most-Edited Articles" (high edit count is "popular among editors" perhaps but not necessarily "popular" in the sense of most-viewed... also, doesn't a high recent edit count imply instability, and as such, isn't that perhaps the last article a newbie should go to edit?) In its stead, I wonder if there should be a "Popular Articles" box that lists most-visited articles (most pageviews). Even further along that train of thought, what about a most-visited-lowest-class box? Or top-importance-lowest-class? Another thought: I wonder if the How-to-Help page should appear on the main project page in a "How to help" section, just to make it real easy/obvious for anyone stopping by? Final thought: what is the status of article assessments in this project–are they generally accurate/up-to-date–and if not, would an "assessment drive" be helpful to correctly populate and "top-importance-lowest-class"-type lists? Levivich? ! 18:47, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
That's in the announcements template that shows on every project page (and in the talk page assessment banners), so wasn't intended specifically for new editors. And I changed it to "most-edited" but that's a bit of a misnomer too, since it's only the most edited from the last week. (The feature is called "hot articles" if that's any clearer.) "How to help" is listed in the announcements template too. I thought about removing the whole second row in the announcements template, which is in low use, to instead have a collapsible summary of "How to help", but not sure how much traffic the template drives or whether it's worth the effort. To the question, my impression is that editor visibility/community helps new editors stick around, ask for help, learn to collaborate, so I imagine that poking around a "hot article" is a better introduction than relegating them to an article with cobwebs. Or at the very least, that's what I would want for me.
For most-visited, lowest-class (i.e., most utilitarian potential impact), could use the actual "popular pages" tool but that doesn't generate an on-wiki list like "hot articles". For what it's worth, in my experience, editors don't respond well to randomly generated worklists. I haven't seen editors seek out articles by most utilitarian potential impact, but I have seen editors like to join lively, in-progress efforts and fall into articles/niches through serendipity.
For top-importance, lowest-class, can use the 1.0 tool (again, not automated for on-wiki, but likely doesn't need to be if only needs to be linked out for suggestions).
Ya, the project's front page needs some work but I'm still not quite sure what's necessary to list there. I tried to put most of the good links in the announcements template.
I'm up for an assessment drive but more on making sure that applicable articles are tagged as within the project's scope than whether articles are properly mid/low importance. (Other projects have done formal drives with checklists of articles, determining whether the quality tags were correct—it's a lot of unnecessary work with minor returns and I'd recommend against the formality.) And potentially even more interesting, when I'm finished with the project's cleanup queue (almost there!), I'm thinking about a stub drive to expand the project's 351 basic articles to something more substantive, even if it's just me. czar 19:25, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
These are good points. I think you're right about hot articles, which perhaps should be named "exciting articles", being of interest to a new editor. Maybe it would help to connect the topical categories that are listed with a "call to action", e.g. "anarchist biographies to create" or "French anarchist articles that need copyediting", etc. As for assessments, I find the many levels of both importance and quality to be confusing and unnecessary. It seems like there should be a top category (vital importance, featured quality); a bottom category (low important, stub quality); and then just a middle category for which the only criteria is "neither top nor bottom". Levivich? ! 19:51, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
Is there an automated way to query all anarchism stub articles in this category and list them in the "How can I help" page? The Category itself links directly to the talk pages and not the articles itself. And beside it, it would be faster if the stub articles are directly listed on the "how can i help" section! Ogat 19:12, 28 January 2019 (UTC)
@Levivich, mostly agreed. If it helps, the top/mid/low comes from Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Release Version Criteria#Priority of topic. Open to ideas for those topical categories and I can put together a selection.
@Ogat, are you looking for a list of all stubs? My "351 basic articles" link from above should work. czar 04:01, 29 January 2019 (UTC)
@Czar: Thanks; I had read the v 1.0 stuff before, and I support the idea of developing the core, but the implementation seems overcomplicated. As for categories, I was thinking something like:
Anarchist biographies (create  • expand  • copyedit  • research  • illustrate)
Anarchist organizations (create  • expand  • copyedit  • research  • illustrate)
Anarchist communities (create  • expand  • copyedit  • research  • illustrate)
Anarchist history (create  • expand  • copyedit  • research  • illustrate)
Anarchist media (create  • expand  • copyedit  • research  • illustrate)
Anarchist theory (create  • expand  • copyedit  • research  • illustrate)
Perhaps categories by continent?
Another possibility, if it's technically feasible, is to suggest specific articles, perhaps the ones with the most page views in that category or highest priority or both. Similar to the community portal:
Anarchist biographies
Create
Redlink
Redlink
Redlink
Expand
Article
Article
Article
Copyedit
Article
Article
Article
Research
Article
Article
Article
Illustrate
Article
Article
Article
Anarchist communities
Create
Redlink
Redlink
Redlink
Expand
Article
Article
Article
Copyedit
Article
Article
Article
Research
Article
Article
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illustrate
Article
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An editor scanning the list might see something that "jumps out" at them and click, read, and edit. Levivich 04:58, 29 January 2019 (UTC)

Affinity Groups and "Class Struggle" federation[edit]

@Czar:, since I started modifying the anarchims navbox last year I noticed that here in wikipedia there are no articles for:

  • Anarchist affinity groups, since the article Affinity group is for any kind of people organization and not specifically anarchist
  • What the An Anarchist FAQ call "Class strugle federation" wich is described as another type of affinity group that differs from synthesis anarchism and plaformism types.

It´s described on the section J:

  • What kinds of organization do anarchists build?
    • What are affinity groups?
    • What are "synthesis" federations?
    • What is the "Platform"?
    • Why do many anarchists oppose the "Platform"?
    • Are there other kinds of anarchist federation?
    • What role do these groups play in anarchist theory?
    • Doesn't Bakunin's "Invisible Dictatorship" prove that anarchists are secret authoritarians?
    • What is anarcho-syndicalism?
    • Why are many anarchists not anarcho-syndicalists?

Would it be ok if I create both articles based on these 2 chapters and reference the content using the same anarchists books and works already used by the faq inside those chapters? Ogat 15:21, 29 January 2019 (UTC)

The Anarchism FAQ isn't a reliable source, so it shouldn't be used for statements of fact. The question is what literature discusses "anarchist affinity groups" as an independent topic to warrant treatment as a separate article. (E.g., is there enough literature on "class struggle federations" to warrant a separate article about the concept?) Ideally, if the sourcing exists, you can expand the concept summary style within an existing article until it warrants a split out into something separate. When making new articles, we look for significant coverage in multiple reliable, independent sources. (?) (The gist being that it's impossible to do encyclopedic justice to a topic if there is no extant, reliable coverage to cite.) Feel free to bring sources here and we can discuss where/how best to cover? Other editors might pitch in with sources too. czar 04:46, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
fwiw, the articles on platformism and the International of Anarchist Federations are really shoddy on sourcing as well, so if there's any way to combine all of them into something broader on anarchist organization, might be better off. czar 04:55, 30 January 2019 (UTC)

Tagged for a long time[edit]

Wanted to highlight these few individual articles, which have been tagged for cleanup for a while, in case anyone might be interested in resolving the issue or in discussing to make the issue easier for someone else to take action:

  1. Direct action has been tagged for "limited geographic scope" since 2013. Ostensibly this means adding more sources on direct action used in non-US contexts per Talk:Direct action#Globalize.
  2. Libertarian socialism has been tagged as "too long" since 2017. Makes sense. It needs a machete to stay on topic. Looks like someone went too hard on summary style copy-paste a few years back.
  3. Anarchism in Ecuador, Anarchism in China, Buenaventura Durruti each have general references but need specific inline footnotes. If searching the source for the right page looks infeasible, we should TNT so someone else can be clear to expand from scratch.
  4. Individualist anarchism: overreliance on primary sources, tagged since 2016. It goes into the weeds and reads as an essay at times because it isn't summarizing secondary sources. Could start by simply pruning back the quantity of primary source claims?

czar 04:40, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

Libertarian socialism needs a TNT. A good book that might help us re-write this particular article would be Libertarian Socialism: Politics in Black and Red but doesnt really help in terms of structure. There is this chapter also at p 75 Cinadon36 (talk) 11:44, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
Nice. Let's continue this one at Talk:Libertarian socialism#Cleanup for length. Open to ideas on the other articles listed above. czar 04:49, 26 February 2019 (UTC)