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Make a User Page

Hi! You obviously have a lot to contribute. It would be best if you create a user page, just so your user name doesn't appear in red. It doesn't have to say more than a few words. Even one word would do. On the other hand, you can have a user page like mine, which even my mother would think is too long. Lou Sander (talk) 20:54, 16 July 2017 (UTC)

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I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Carrier Air Group SEVENTEEN. Thanks! Domdeparis (talk) 11:42, 7 September 2017 (UTC)

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Inactive Squadrons

Thanks for all your work on the List of inactive United States Navy aircraft squadrons article. I did a lot of work there a few years ago when I was trying to increase my count of articles created. I didn't have much background in Naval Aviation except that which I gleaned from DANAS. It looks like you have a lot more background than that!

FYI, most of the links in the External links section of that article have moved. The new links are in the Table of Contents page of each volume. If you have the time and motivation, it wouldn't be much of a job to update them. I would do it myself, but I just don't have much time for Wikipedia editing these days. Lou Sander (talk) 09:20, 23 January 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for replying to my comment. FYI, usually the best place to reply to something posted on your talk page is to do it right below whatever is posted. When somebody posts on your talk page, your talk page goes onto their Watchlist. Therefore they will (usually) be notified of your response.

Also, I didn't start the inactive squadrons page, but I did a LOT of work in cleaning it up. It took me a while to figure out how the tables worked, but it finally came clear. I'll try to find time to clean up the DANAS External links.

You also might find useful some of the "tracks" I left when I was working on this material. See User:Lou_Sander/Aircraft_Squadrons. Especially follow some of the links in the first paragraph.

Finally, I remember finding a source for information about disestablished squadrons. I don't remember its name, but it was a naval aviation magazine of some sort. An official one, as I remember. Their website contains most or all of the material that they have ever published, and it is searchable. When I was looking for material on VAQ-nnn, and it wasn't in DANAS, I'd look there. There was sometimes a note about the squadron, particularly if it was disestablished or changed its home base.

That's it for now. BZ and keep up the good work! Lou Sander (talk) 17:16, 24 January 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for the lesson on talk pages, we'll see if I'm doing it right. Your tracks are very interesting, I'll enjoy looking through them. I'm sure the info source that you are talking about is "Naval Aviation News". It would often, though not in every case, do an article on a recently disestablished or deactivated squadron which would include varying levels of detail of the history of the squadron. The Naval History and Heritage command has most of them available on their website going back to during WWII, unfortunately they are not searchable beyond the magazine edition on that site so it takes considerable dedication to search through them for a specific squadron or topic. You must have come across them on a different site, I'll definitely see if I can find itNavalaviator84 (talk) 19:21, 25 January 2018 (UTC)

I think you are right about Naval Aviation News. I'm trying to remember if I found a searchable archive or not. I remember finding at least one small note about the disestablishment of a squadron. It seems to me there was, at least for a while, a section of the magazine that featured tidbits like disestablishments. I don't remember how I zeroed in on that one small note. Maybe DANAS had something about the disestablishment that let me narrow down the search. I just don't remember much about it; sometimes sleeping on something like this will bring back the memory.

By the way on talk pages: a colon at the start of a paragraph will indent that paragraph. Two colons will indent it more, three even more, etc. If you go to the Edit tab of this page, you can see it. There is more stuff about editing at User_talk:Lou_Sander/Useful_Stuff. I feel your pain about learning all the ins and outs of editing. I am pretty good at it now, but it took a long time to get here. Also I've noticed that if you don't use the editing skills for a while, you tend to lose them. You can get a lot of help at Wikipedia:Help desk. Questions are usually answered very quickly, and the answers show up on your Watchlist. So does every other response to the Help Desk, so it's a good move to remove the Help Desk from your watchlist after your answer comes up. Lou Sander (talk) 02:24, 26 January 2018 (UTC)

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You seem to have run afoul of what I call the image police. Wikipedia is VERY fussy about the images that it contains. This is understandable, since image companies such as Getty Images raise huge stinks when their images are used without payment. The Wikifolks who enforce the image policies are not very amenable to discussion (they have a hard job to do, and not much time). It is helpful for editors to become familiar with the requirements for images, but the image police don't make that very easy to do. I find their explanations to be opaque and very hard to understand. In my own editing, I've pretty much decided only to post images that I have taken myself, or that are clearly in the public domain (like Official Navy Photos). Others just aren't worth using, since sooner or later somebody will take them down, even years later. Lou Sander (talk) 20:11, 5 February 2018 (UTC)

Yes it is very frustrating! I'm only trying to add squadron insignias, all created by the US Navy and all in the public domain. The form is extremely user unfriendly.Navalaviator84 (talk) 03:16, 6 February 2018 (UTC)

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