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Nitrosyl bromide[edit]

At the top of the article it says "For the chemical compound, see Nitrosyl bromide". Why is this and what does that chemical have to do with HTML elements?109.149.80.240 (talk) 14:10, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

It was added in July in this unexplained edit. There is no relationship between these two subjects (as far as I can tell). I'm removing it. Mindmatrix 15:50, 24 October 2012 (UTC)
It's presumably a paste from a past article on the <nobr> tag (not part of standard HTML, but quite widely used). Delete it, it's an irrelevance here. Andy Dingley (talk) 16:59, 24 October 2012 (UTC)
I put in a more self-explanatory hatnote. There should be one because if you are search for the article on the chemical and type "nobr" instead of "NOBr" (the chemical formula for nitrosyl bromide) you end up on this page instead of the one you were looking for. -- Beland (talk) 15:24, 24 June 2014 (UTC)

text overprints box[edit]

Hitting CTRL+++++... to increase the text size in one's Firefox 22 browser causes some lines to overprint the box at the right... Jidanni (talk) 01:21, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

  • That's not a problem that is the fault of anyone except those that want to hit Ctrl++++++... If you've accidently done that and want to reset it to the "normal" font size so it fixes those issues, simply press Ctrl+0. — {{U|Technical 13}} (etc) 15:59, 24 June 2014 (UTC)

List of "all" tags[edit]

The list of "all" tags needs to be updated:

  • B does not define bold text in HTML5.
  • DATA is missing.
  • HGROUP is no longer part of HTML5.
  • ISINDEX (and friends) is missing (since the table claims to include not only HTML5 tags...).
  • MAIN is missing.
  • SMALL doesn't define "smaller text" in HTML5.

If tags from 'obscure' specifications/drafts are to be listed as well, then there are a lot of missing elements: BANNER, TAB, FIG, OVERLAY, MATH, NOTE, FN (from HTML 3.0), DI (from XHTML 2.0), ... --Andreas Rejbrand (talk) 23:08, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

I deleted this section since it also appears to be a copyright violation. -- Beland (talk) 15:11, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
  • Beland, it's all basic information about the tags, all of which can be found on MDN's HTML developer guide (which uses CC-BY-SA 2.5, which is a compatible license). Since this information can't be copyrighted as it is already released under an open use (albeit attribution) license, there is no CV here. — {{U|Technical 13}} (etc) 17:53, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
  • Technical 13, I don't see where on developer.mozilla.org for example the phrase "Defines a comment" (from the first line of the table) appears. http://www.w3schools.com/tags/default.asp does not attribute any source, so if that table does exist on developer.mozilla.org under an attribution-required license, then w3schools.com has an unauthorized copy. It looks to me like the table is original to w3schools.com and is fully copyrighted by them. Though the content concerns the HTML 5 standard, just because that standard or its official documentation has a copyleft license doesn't mean any given book or web page about HTML 5 must also have a copyleft license. That would only be true in the case of substantial verbatim copying. -- Beland (talk) 18:21, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
  • That's the whole point, it is not suppose to be verbatim "Defines a comment", that would be my summary of The Importance of Correct HTML Commenting. The table doesn't need to exist, the information in the table just needs to be available on the multitude of different pages (each row in the table has its own page on MDN). I don't see any of the formatting and the tool doesn't find any of the exact wording on w3schools of which the content there is common knowledge to anyone in the HTML world and the source upon which it is defined (the legal [=Any&pub_date_type=any rfc] documents for HTML) is actually open source to all. — {{U|Technical 13}} (etc) 18:43, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
  • Copyright only attaches to the exact words used to express an idea, not to the idea itself. So if we agree that the specific words that w3schools.com put into their table were written by them, then the copyright on that table text belongs to w3schools. It looks like w3schools does not use an open license, so their specific words cannot be copied into Wikipedia in their entirety. -- Beland (talk) 21:46, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
  • W3schools shouldn't be used as any sort of source, they're just too regularly inaccurate. Also there's no need for any source here other than the canonical W3C. Andy Dingley (talk) 21:55, 24 June 2014 (UTC)