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Former good article nomineeLarry Page was a Engineering and technology good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There may be suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
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Current status: Former good article nominee

Place of birth[edit]

Somebody insists that Page was born in Lansing because there are no hospitals in East Lansing. This insistence reflects a misunderstanding of how births are often officially recorded and attributed geographically. The "place of birth" may be recorded based on where the mother lived at the time of the birth, not where the hospital or other medical facility was located. In Larry Page's case, if his mother was a resident of East Lansing but gave birth to Larry in, say, Sparrow Hospital in Lansing, his place of birth could be regarded as East Lansing -- that is, the place where his parents lived when he was born. For all intents and purposes, he could be a "native" of East Lansing even if the hospital was located in Lansing.

It is also true, however, that often people use the hospital/medical facility location as their place of birth -- regardless of what the official statistics say or where their mother lived at the time of the birth. But local governments, school districts, etc., need to know how many births occur to residents within their jurisdiction. In the case of East Lansing/Lansing, unless the state attributes the birthplace to the place of permanent residence of the mother then you end up with a "birth rate" of essentially zero in East Lansing (only homebirths would be counted) and thus end up with a completely distorted picture of the birth rates of different municipalities near Lansing. Local schools need to have this information -- births to mothers living in East Lansing -- in order to make long-term enrollment projections, otherwise none of the townships and municipalities in the area surrounding a major hospital complex would have any idea how many kids are likely to show up in kindergarten 5 years later.

Also, unless the state of Michigan attributes live births and infant deaths to place of residence of the mother, it couldn't produce this table or meaningful infant death rates by city.

(1) In Page's case, the bio doesn't say where his family lived, just where his parents worked (at MSU -- in East Lansing). I suspect his birth certificate may say he was born in East Lansing (even if the hospital was located in Lansing). But there is no right answer to the question where he was born based on the currently available information in the article. However, to insist that he was born in Lansing because that's where the hospital was located (a couple of miles from East Lansing) is being pedantic (we don't even know if he was born in a hospital, after all). It was therefore not "vandalism" to report the birth place as East Lansing. Take a look, for example, at this "Answers.com" response to an inquiry on this very subject.

(2) The Encyclopedia Britannica gives East Lansing as Page's birthplace.~~Mack2~~ 21:58, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

(3) Finally, HIS OWN bio, in the paper from his graduate school at Stanford University, in which he and Sergei Brin described the prototype for Google, lists Page's place of birth as East Lansing. Take a look: http://infolab.stanford.edu/~backrub/google.html The Anatomy of a Large-Scale Hypertextual Web Search Engine Sergey Brin and Lawrence Page {sergey, page}@cs.stanford.edu Computer Science Department, Stanford University, Stanford, CA 94305 ~~Mack2~~ 05:13, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

That looks like solid research, thanks! I have updated the article using the sources you provided.
While I was at it, I noticed that the Britannica page gave 1972 as his birth year (instead of 1973 in this article). This is confirmed by the following reference:
  • Christos J. Moschovitis, Hilary Poole: "The Internet: a historical encyclopedia", vol. 3, ABC-CLIO 2005, p. 46
Also, the reference cited for his full name ([1]) does not contain "Edward".
Regards, HaeB (talk) 07:40, 3 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your attention to this information and for amending the text.~~Mack2~~ 21:40, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
It appears that the same individual, using various anon accounts, keeps reverting the East Lansing birthplace, despite this birthplace being documented with reference to Page's own bio on his seminal paper. Despite several requests to the user to discuss the matter on this page, he has never acceded to the request but instead continues to insert Lansing instead of East Lansing. I believe (from a comparison of the various pages that the individual has posted on or become engaged in disputes and revert wars on, e.g., on Juris doctor pages) that the same individual has posted under these anon accounts: 24.11.161.213, 98.209.6.176, and 192.203.222.59. ~Mack2~ (talk) 22:18, 25 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

- I added a comment in the "Early Life" section of this talk page a while back addressing the East Lansing/Lansing issue. It came to my attention because I myself was born in Lansing while my parents were grad students and lived in East Lansing where Michigan State is located. My birth certificate says "Lansing - Sparrow Hospital." I don't doubt Page colloquially considers himself a native of East Lansing, but the place of birth in the simplest (and legal) definition is almost certainly Lansing, Michigan. Tomqj (talk) 07:43, 31 May 2019 (UTC)tomqj[reply]

Flying cars / autonomous air taxis[edit]

Nothing about that in this article. A few sources:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jeremybogaisky/2019/12/01/inside-larry-pages-kitty-hawk-returned-deposits-battery-fires-boeing-cora/

—Jerome Potts (talk) 17:19, 19 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Net worth error?[edit]

Right now, his article says "as of July 2020, Page was the 13th-richest person in the world, with a net worth of $69.4 billion, according to Forbes" and Sergey Brin's article says "As of July 2020, Brin is the 7th-richest person in the world, with an estimated net worth of US$67.6 billion." Something's not right here, since the 7th richest person can't be worth $1.8 billion less than the guy in 13th place. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2605:E000:1805:D80F:B88B:F9A0:1561:531C (talk) 06:35, 21 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Preview page[edit]

When hovering over this page from another page (Google for instance), it just says "I Love men." I cannot fix this but I thought it should be brought to someone's attention. 161.185.153.53 (talk) 22:53, 7 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The article's lead was vandalized a couple of days ago. I'm not sure why the page preview isn't displaying the live version, but I'm hoping it will fix itself soon. (Purging cache didn't work for me.) If not, then we will revisit the matter. InfiniteNexus (talk) 01:28, 8 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
This is only visible when Wikipedia's page preview is enabled (default).The source for this pop-up is an API call to https://en.wikipedia.org/api/rest_v1/page/summary/Larry_Page
The modification only affects the English language text.
https://it.wikipedia.org/api/rest_v1/page/summary/Larry_Page shows the correct info. Elwikieditor (talk) 22:24, 9 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The vandalism is no longer on the article, but I would like to know why the page preview isn't showing that most recent version of the article. Any idea what's going on? InfiniteNexus (talk) 01:18, 10 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
This did the trick: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Page?action=purge
Source: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:PurgeElwikieditor (talk) 20:29, 10 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Yep, that worked. I tried purging my browser's cache, but didn't think of purging the actual page itself. Thanks! InfiniteNexus (talk) 01:02, 11 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Is Carrie Southworth really British?[edit]

I can’t find anything to suggest she is.. 2.96.234.204 (talk) 17:37, 27 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 10 February 2024[edit]

Lucinda Southworth's sister Carrie is listed as British, she is American. Followthedamntraincj (talk) 16:12, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Done ARandomName123 (talk)Ping me! 17:45, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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