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Hi ElijahBosley,

Benjamin Wittes and I are writing an article on lawfare, Wikipedia, and the Lawfare blog- and we would like to ask you a few questions about your elimination of earlier edits on the lawfare page. How would be best to reach you?

Thanks, Stephanie — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sleutert21 (talkcontribs) 19:01, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

Hi Stephanie--I make it a policy to discus Wikipedia edits only on Wikipedia. Either on the article talk page, or if you wanted to try revisions in your Sandbox and invite me to comment I would be happy to do so. I am not sure what "elimination of earlier edits" I did on the Lawfare page, though. Sure it was me? I generally tend not to simply delete things. Rather I look for sources, footnotes, and try to add them. Only if I can't find support for something do I consider deleting it, and then--usually I give advance notice on the talk page to invite editor support for the decision. Maybe if you told me what specifically you wanted to add, I could help. Best wishes,ElijahBosley (talk ☞) 20:07, 7 April 2013 (UTC)
Hi ElijahBosley thanks for the quick response. The edits I'm referring to are from June 9, 2012 and had to do with adding content to Lawfare's Wikipage and using the Lawfare blog as a source. You had removed them and written:
-Blogs are not encyclopedic, and articles are not venues to advertise them. At most this blog gets a reference in External links
-Delete advertisement for blog--newspapers or scholarly articles only please. These are respected scholars, so find a respected source for this
I was wondering:
1. Do you ever allow blogs to be used as sources - and if so what is your criteria for using blogs
2. Why doesn't the Lawfare blog fit in this category (since Wiki policy on blogs says allows for blogs to be sources if written by professional researchers writing in their field).
3. Why is a scholar who chooses to write on a blog less reputable than the same scholar writing an oped in a newspaper.
Thanks in advance.
Stephanie — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sleutert21 (talkcontribs) 20:46, 7 April 2013 (UTC)
thanks Stephanie--yes that was my edit, back in 2012. The distinction is between edited and unedited blogs. A blog on the New York Times website, or Huffington Post for instance, has to pass an outside editor's scrutiny. It is more dependable for being vetted. My own personal blog, or my best friend's blog, or even a professor I deeply respect--does not have outside scrutiny. No matter how expert the blogger, if nobody else has reviewed the work, best not to cite it. In the case of a professional researcher writing in their field, normally that researcher would have a sheaf of articles and bundles of books to cite, and need not resort to citing a blog. That said, we are increasingly seeing "vetted" blogs accepted as reliable. So who knows, under Wikipedia's evolving standards maybe the one to which you refer would now pass muster. To look at the criteria involved, cf. Self-published and questionable sources which--while questionable--may sometimes merit inclusion. ElijahBosley (talk ☞) 21:52, 7 April 2013 (UTC)
PS--here is an example of a blog which--even though not associated with a newspaper, or edited in the conventional sense--nonetheless would be reliable and notable enough to warrant citing on Wikipedia. Dr. Jeff Masters' Weather Underground Blog. It is widely read by fellow expert meteorologists who often contribute comments to it, so it is "vetted" in that sense by expert outsiders and considered reliable.ElijahBosley (talk ☞) 13:00, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
Got it - thanks so much for the explanation! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sleutert21 (talkcontribs) 00:15, 22 April 2013 (UTC)
FYI - Ben published your response to our piece on the Lawfare blog. You can read it here: http://www.lawfareblog.com/2013/05/wikipedia-volunteer-elijah-bosley-responds/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sleutert21 (talkcontribs) 13:36, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
Thanks. ElijahBosley (talk ☞) 13:50, 14 May 2013 (UTC)


Could you please comment on Talk:Thought_identification[edit]

Re: John Norseen and Lockheed Martin

I'm beside myself trying to update information that I believe to be very relevent. It looks to me like several users who "hang out" at "ANI:Fringe" are working together to remove well sourced, valid, on topic material which shows the state of military research into thought identification. Outside comments would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Damonthesis (talk) 19:48, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

May 2013[edit]

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Deerfield edits[edit]

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Spirit of faction[edit]

America's biggest problem? I agree it is an important issue but my sense is the Constitution needs a revamp. Big problem: people are no longer citizens, preventing an adequate solution to violence and terrorism. My two cents.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 15:57, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for your post. So it looks like you too have a book that needs to be written.ElijahBosley (talk ☞) 16:23, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
Yes I suppose. How is yours coming along? If you need feedback, let me know. Right now I am writing a sci-fi novel which I hope to finish soon.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 16:31, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

June 2013[edit]

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October 2013[edit]

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The appropriate place to discuss reliable citations is on the article's talk page. There is already some discussion there, so I will leave it at that.ElijahBosley (talk ☞) 14:48, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

Motorcycling Wikiproject[edit]

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Re Orwell would be proud[edit]

Civility Barnstar Hires.png The Civility Barnstar
for your exceptionally graceful response to my criticism of your Civility proposal. Tlhslobus (talk) 12:26, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

In other words, many thanks for your Civility Barnstar to me. Actually given that my suggestion that I deserved a Barnstar was intended as an ironic but illustrative joke, and that I thought about deleting it as possibly being sarcastic to the point of incivility, it was probably one of the most undeserved Civility Barnstars on record, but I ain't complaining :) Incidentally, your new wording represents a huge improvement, though I fear I still have some reservations about it which I expect to post there eventually. Tlhslobus (talk) 12:26, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

Ironic? Oh? heh he. Thanks. Ironic or not a barnstar always brightens one's day.ElijahBosley (talk ☞) 13:42, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

Your thoughts on reliable sources[edit]

@ElijahBosley: I read some of your posts in the Identifying Reliable Sources talk page, and do so agree with you in many instances. It appears to me that sourcing is often at the root of many disputes, blocks, and bans. I believe it would serve WP well to update the reliable source criteria, and possibly even include a list of the top 25 unreliable and reliable sources with a neutral balance determined first by general consensus, and maybe followed by a 3/4 majority consensus by admins who are elected to determine the final outcome, or some other process that will assure neutrality. I hope I'm not overstepping my boundaries by posting my thoughts and suggestions here on your Talk page, but if I am, please don't hesitate to delete it. However, I do believe this topic is important enough for editors to seriously consider, and at least try to get some changes made. If you think it's something you'd be interested in discussing, you can post a Talkback on my page. Kind regards... Atsme talk 19:01, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

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