User talk:Oh My Volcano

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January 2012[edit]

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Request reason:

I made a contribution to the Yahweh article without any personal opinion. All I did was list papers/books/authors...about five of them....that stated Yahweh was a volcano god or Mount Sinai was a volcano. I entitled the section 'Yahweh as a volcano god'. My section was more than halved, it was moved to the bottom of the part I had put it into, the title was changed to 'Alternative Theories' and the only pro point left was preceded by a new con. My only dispute was with the inaccurate title and the uncommon and illogical order of the points. I was told in my talk page to discuss the issue on the article talk page, which I did. I did not make any new edits to the article. My disputes were stated clearly yet no-one mentioned them and instead insisted on challenging the ideas. That was not what I was trying to do. I was simply trying to get the section correctly titled at 'Yahweh as a volcano god' and the pro put before the con. I repeatedly asked if that was fair but no-one said a thing. Instead I was pushed to prove it was not an unknown subject by posting a list of books that had mentioned it. The list was not meant as a potential list of edits for the article. I just wanted people to see that people were talking about it. Users twisted this into me not know what classed as suitable material for the article. I feel I've been treated unfairly and my contribution has been censored almost to the point of removal. I would like the section to be titled correctly and the order of points to be put in the normally expected way...with the pro before the con. I would like my ban to be lifted only so that if I do find suitable material in the future I am able to add it to the article. (Oh My Volcano (talk) 11:16, 23 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Decline reason:

You do not get to determine the title of a section, or even it's content: the community does. Your "theory" is just that - a very poorly-supported wP:FRINGE theory. It deserves very little coverages as per most of Wikipedia's policies. Unfortunately, you seem hell-bent on making that rarely-accepted theory as visible as possible. You were advised to stop, and refused, and your edits became disruptive the panda ₯’ 12:02, 23 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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August 2014[edit]

Welcome to Wikipedia. We welcome and appreciate your contributions, including your edits to Yahweh, but we cannot accept original research. Original research also encompasses combining published sources in a way to imply something that none of them explicitly say. Please be prepared to cite a reliable source for all of your contributions. Thank you. Dougweller (talk) 21:03, 22 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to violate Wikipedia's no original research policy by adding your personal analysis or synthesis into articles, as you did at Yahweh, you may be blocked from editing. Also, quit signing in article space, it's just plain trashy. Your contributions will be noted in the article history. And finally, you've been reverted by multiple editors, please justify your differences on the article's talk page. Ian.thomson (talk) 21:57, 22 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Oh My Volcano, pattern continuing on this last Talk edit you seem not to be listening to any of the experienced editors asking you to provide sources for what is apparently WP:FRINGE. Mainly you should not now be editing the Yahweh article. Present reliable printed WP:RS on the Talk page and let others add if seemed needed. Given the considerable timesink here, I imagine if you edit the article again without first doing so, someone (probably me if I see it) will consult an admin e.g. @Dougweller: whether a block is required. In ictu oculi (talk) 01:59, 23 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

If you have read the talk page at Yahweh you will know my issue is with the incorrect title of the section and the twisting of the points to put the con before the pro. This is censorship. I am happy to put to you any new content but these issues need to be addressed as they are very unfair. The section should be titled 'Yahweh as a volcano god' and the pros should come before the cons. Do you agree? I am not asking a lot. If you agree then please edit the section and then I will see what new content I can put to you. (Oh My Volcano (talk) 02:11, 23 August 2014 (UTC))[reply]

You have mentioned one reliable source, The Oxford Companion, I'm guessing it's a passing reference to Freud-era speculation, but it may not be, please give the page number at the Talk page. I still think however that you are heading for a block, you don't appear to have the necessary competence to distinguish between a modern scholar with university tenure and a fringe source. But give the page number and we'll see. In ictu oculi (talk) 03:38, 23 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I guessed right. The ideas of Freud are being laughed at in this source. It's relevant for Freud's book, but that's all. In ictu oculi (talk) 03:52, 23 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is Single purpose account dedicated to pushing one particular religious idea. Thank you.

Please drop the censorship talk. Disagreeing with you is not censorship, we change section headings all the time. Censorship is about people deleting workds such as 'fuck' from articles where the word is appropriate, or pictures of nudes. And you seriously need to use and read WP:Edit summaries. Beke clearly abandoned his volcano idea, and if you don't know that then your research skills worry me, and if you do, then not mentioning it is a violation of WP:NPOV and not particularly honest. Dougweller (talk) 05:54, 23 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Unician ∇ 06:31, 23 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Oh My Volcano (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

Here is a list of academic sources.....please pass them on seeing as I am silenced.....

Thomas Mann, “The Pillar of Cloud in the Reed Sea Narrative,” JBL 90 (1971)

G. Hort, "Musil, Madian and the Mountain of the Law" in Jewish Studies: Essays in Honour of the Very Reverend Dr. Gustav Sicher, Chief Rabbi of Prague (Prague, 1955)

Foster, Ritner and Foster, "Texts, Storms, and the Thera Eruption," JNES 55 (1996)

K. Polinger Foster, “Volcanic Landscapes in Lugal-e” in L. Milano et al., eds., Landscapes: Territories, Frontiers, and Horizons in the Ancient Near East, Proceedings of the XLIV Rencontre Assyriologique, vol. III (Padua, 1999), pp. 23-29.

the volume Cultural Responses to the Volcanic Landscape: the Mediterranean and Beyond (esp. papers like "Volcanic Echoes in Ancient Near Eastern Texts")

Barbara Sivertsen, The Parting of the Sea: How Volcanoes, Earthquakes, and Plagues Shaped the Story of Exodus (Princeton Univ. Press 2009)

P. D. Miller, Jr., “Fire in the Mythology of Canaan and Israel,” CBQ 27 (1965), 256-61

Oh My Volcano (talk) 01:16, 24 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Decline reason:

Not an unblock request; please do not abuse this template. --jpgordon^{::==( o )} 05:25, 24 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Could you say what those abbreviations are for? JNES, JBL, and CBQ particularly. Thanks. 50.0.205.237 (talk) 02:14, 24 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Journal of Near Eastern Studies, Journal of Biblical Literature, Catholic Biblical Quarterly 88.104.23.102 (talk) 02:44, 24 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I've looked at the first article (JSTOR 3262982, published by Yale author Thomas W. Mann in 1971, not the Nobel Laureate Thomas Mann who died in 1955). It does mention the volcano theory briefly, attributing it to Martin Noth's book about Exodus. It mostly discusses cloud and flame imagery from a bunch of other angles. I haven't looked at the other articles yet but might try. 50.0.205.237 (talk) 04:45, 24 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The Forster/Ritner/Foster article JSTOR 545376 mostly tries to connect the Thera explosion to Egyptian mythology rather than biblical texts. Its conclusions are contested by JSTOR 545324. 50.0.205.237 (talk) 05:12, 24 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The recent JOT article[1] whose abstract you pasted into Yahweh is actually on point and may be usable somewhere in Wikipedia. This is still a niche theory though, so per NPOV it can't really get a lot of space in the main articles like Yahweh. It might be possible to neutrally pull the info together in a subsidiary article (maybe a new one) and add a brief mention with a wikilink to the main article. Look, the main principles to follow here are to edit neutrally, don't be obviously pushing an agenda, be careful not to claim anything in an article that isn't explicitly claimed by sources, and don't put more weight on any point in an article than is justified by that point's representation in the totality of sourcing about the subject. See WP:UNDUE for further explanation the last issue just mentioned. 50.0.205.237 (talk) 14:36, 24 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]