Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Biography/Archive 44
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- 1 Harry Culver (Culver City) other marriage
- 2 Elton John
- 3 Philipp Franz von Siebold, court journey
- 4 Welcoming new users
- 5 Medal of Honor related articles
- 6 Cecil Kellaway
- 7 A query about the article regarding Kenneth Anderson (hunter)
- 8 RfC to remove notable performers from list who don't yet have articles
- 9 Alt text for military ribbons
- 10 GENERAL HUMBERTO MARILES, CAVALRY/OLYMPIC CHAMPION, D.F., MEXICO
- 11 Janet Munro page in need of citations.
- 12 AfD of Oscar van Dillen
- 13 GA Reassessment of Tong Yabghu
- 14 HOWARD STORM
- 15 McLaughlin Reference on Julee Rosso Page
- 16 Yehuda Amichai
- 17 Mimi Smith GA Sweeps: On Hold
- 18 GA Reassessment of Sylvia Mendez
- 19 T.S. Arthurs magazine "The childrens hour "
- 20 DR. VAN SERTIMA ENTRY IS RIDDLED WITH WESTERN BIAS
- 21 FYI Biographical infoboxes
- 22 Yehuda Amichai RfC
- 23 Lennox Lewis
- 24 Lady Gaga image
- 25 Poul Lange
- 26 RfC needing comments
- 27 Setting up direct DNB links
- 28 Question: Biography of a married couple
- 29 GA reassessment of Daniel Rodríguez
- 30 Chase Beebe
- 31 James Pittendreigh MacGillivray - Misspelt
- 32 Pope Joan - medical aspect
- 33 W. Michael Blumenthal
- 34 Category:WPBiography templates using nested parameter
- 35 Talal Maddah - Biography - is almost unreadable.
- 36 Closure of Composers project RfC (see above)
- 37 k-os
Harry Culver (Culver City) other marriage
It is a concern that such a high profile article on a living person is so poorly sourced. It is a matter of priority that statements are sourced. See Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons. Quotations from Elton John or any other person must be closely cited, as per Wikipedia:Quotations. If reliable sources cannot be found then all contentious material should be removed - . It is better for us to have no material at all than to have incorrect, misleading or potentially libelous material. 10:46, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
Philipp Franz von Siebold, court journey
The court journey in which Siebold took part was not in 1828 but in 1826 (see e.g.: Scurla, Herbertn(ed.): Reisen in Nippon. Berichte deutscher Forscher des 17. und 19. Jahrhunderts aus Japan. Berlin, Verlag der Nation, p. 361.) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 126.96.36.199 (talk) 05:34, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
Welcoming new users
Over the past month or so I have been going through all the Medal of Honor related articles varifying their assessment status, makingn notes and creating a page to track it. This is not a formal project, just smoething that I created to give myself a starting point to start building up the content of the Medal of Honor related articles. I though I would post this out here as well in case others are interested as well. If you look at this page Medal of Honor assessments other than Amerian Civil War (ACW) you will find tables oif all of the Medal of Honor recipients other than those for the ACW with their assessment and some rough notes. This page reflects the same for the ACW Medal of Honor recipients and this page reflects those that still need to be created. The ones who are lined out are already done, although some are still stubs and need work. Just a few notes about the state of the articles in general:
- All have infoboxes
- Most have persondata
- All have references although some need to be cleanup and expanded
- Most have a link to at least one applicable portal
- Most have a link to at least 1 list
- Many still need photos
- A little over half the recipients have pages but a lot still do not, most of those that still need articles are in the Indian wars or the American Civil War.
- I am currently working on cleaning up the talk pages making sure they all have appropriate project banners (At a minimum they should have biography, MILHIST and United States), task forces and general info tags (needs photo, persondata, infobox, etc.).
- You might also check with the military history project. Maurreen (talk) 21:42, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
188.8.131.52 (talk) 03:41, 5 February 2010 (UTC)US (and other) classic television fans may point out the wonderful characterization Mr. Kallaway provided in the Perry Mason "Case of the Glittering Goldfish," in which he plays a besotten but highly qualified chemist who eventually admits his guilt in the sly murder of his new employer, regarding same as "vermin."
A query about the article regarding Kenneth Anderson (hunter)
I am really cofused about the exact year of death of Kenneth Anderson(b 1910). Whereas the Wikipedia article states that the Scottish Indian hunter turned conservationist died in 1974, the Kenneth Anderson Omnibus, Vol,I, Fourth Impression 2002, published by Rupa & Co.,India, contains a story " The Mauler of Rajnagara"(p.386, Ibid), which opens with this line : " AT THE MOMENT OF TELLING THIS STORY(NOVEMBER 1995) THE MAULER IS STILL ALIVE". Now, this is utterly sunning! Was Anderson alive till 1995? Can anyone pl. clarify?
- The story was published in his second book. As his third book was published in 1959, it is very unlikely that he wrote his second book 36 years after his third book. I have never read his stories, but either a typographical error or a plot device of setting the story in the future would explain the line. Road Wizard (talk) 22:37, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
RfC to remove notable performers from list who don't yet have articles
There is an RfC to remove dozens of entries from the only list of male performers in gay porn films because the articles for the performers don't yet exist. More eyes would be appreciated. -- Banjeboi 21:40, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
Alt text for military ribbons
There is a conversation regarding the standardization of alt text for military ribbons currently going on in the MILHIS wikiproject talk page. Here is a link to that conversation. --Kumioko (talk) 21:50, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
GENERAL HUMBERTO MARILES, CAVALRY/OLYMPIC CHAMPION, D.F., MEXICO
CORRECTIONS TO ARTICLE REGARDING "ROAD RAGE" C.1964
1. GENERAL MARILES WAS A MUCH BELOVED OLYMPIC CHAMPION WINNING THE MOST
GOLD, SILVER AND BRONZE STARTING C1936-64, BERLIN, GERMANY. HE ALWAYS
HAD A CHAUFFEUR; HIS DRIVER WAS SHOT BEHIND THE WHEEL. THIS WAS NOT ROAD RAGE.
THIS WAS A POLITICAL PERSONAL VENDETTA WHICH RESULTED IN GENERAL MARILE'S DEATH.
2. GENERAL MARILES WAS INSTRUMENTAL IN INTRODUCING "POLO" TO
PRINCE PHILIP OF ENGLAND. HE ALSO PERFORMED IN MADISON SQUARE GARDENS
IN NEW YORKY, U.S.A. (see "LOOK" Magazine, c1950's)
3. GENERAL MARILES ACTED IN WALT DISNEY FILM: "THE LITTLEST OUTLAW" WHICH
DEMONSTRATES "DRESSAGE" EQUESTRIAN EVENT; PEDRO AMENDARIZ SPOKE HIS PART,c1964.
4. GENERAL MARILES DIED AS RECORDED IN "LE FIGARO,PARIS,FRANCE:
"AFTER HIS RELEASE FROM MEXICO,TRAVELED TO EUROPE WHERE AIR WAS
INJECTED INTO HIS VEINS WHILE IMPRISONED POLITICALLY."
5. HISTORICALLY: WWI ENDED WHEN USA INTERCEPTED THE"ZIMMERMAN
TELEGRAM" SENT TO MEXICO FROM GERMANY. DURING THE SPANISH CIVIL-WAR
4-GENERALS IN POWER; 3-GENERALS WERE ELIMINATED AND GENERAL-FRANCO
LEFT STANDING BEYOND REPPROACH. IN USA,GENERAL-MCARTHUR WAS REMOVED
BY PRESIDENT TRUMAN; AFTER PRESIDENT TRUMAN DIED GENERAL EISENHOWER
BECAME PRESIDENT OF THE USA.===
020310: REF:CORRECTIONS TAKEN FROM TRIAL & NEWS DIRECTLY FROM MEXICO. BLANCA-SUSANA MARILES CERVANTES FRAYNDEL,(niece). firstname.lastname@example.org
- If you have issues or corrections for that article, you should take it up on the article talk page. That is where content corrections should be discussed. Wildhartlivie (talk) 23:40, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
Janet Munro page in need of citations.
She was an actress (seen in the movies "The Swiss Family Robinson" and "Darby O'Gill and the Little People") who passed away in 1972. The article here claims she was an alcoholic and died of myocarditis but provieds no citations for these and other statements made about her. The citations could probably be found easily. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.108.40.206 (talk) 06:37, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
AfD of Oscar van Dillen
Note that he is an important Wikipedian and the previous AfD was closed with a comment that RSs need to added to the articles. These were not provided and I have completely failed to come up with anything after nearly 3 hours of searching. Kleinzach (talk · contribs) has added an EL to a Cybele recording of one of his records but the article remains unsourced to date. --Jubilee♫clipman 01:47, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
GA Reassessment of Tong Yabghu
I have done a GA Reassessment of Tong Yabghu as part of the GA Sweeps project. I have found the article does not currently meet the current GA standards. As such I have placed the article on hold for one week pending work. I am notifying all interested projects and editors of this. You can find my review here. Should you have any questions please contact me on my talk page. Thank you. H1nkles (talk) 16:59, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
Everyone has a personal testiomy. Facts can not always be proved, but that doesn't mean the testimony is any less true. People have no problem believing in near death experiences when it involves heaven. Why? Is it because it's a glorious place? Is it because heaven is close to God? Is it because heaven is where most people want to end up some day? If a person can have a NDE and experience heaven before returning to their earthly body, then why do people have a difficult time believing a person can experience hell before returning to their earthly body? Is it because the concept of hell is something to real and too fearful to comprehend? Is it because people want to continue living for themself rather than living for a higher spiriual power? Whether one wants to believe it or not, we're all going to be spending eternity somewhere. The choice is ours to make. Will it be heaven, or will it be hell? NDE experiences are provided as a gift from God so that others will hear and have their eyes opened to the heaven/hell reality.
I say leave the article in! To all the nay-sayers: It may not be YOUR testimonty, but it IS Mr. Storm's! It may not be how you would have written the article if it were your experience, but it is how he chose to write it; and, therefore, it is correct in every aspect!
- I'm not sure I know why people come to this page to comment when anything pertinent regarding an article should be brought up on the article talk page. Having said that, we don't need testimonials here, nor on the article talk page and all articles need to meet notability requirements. Hopefully, Mr. Storm didn't write his own article, that would introduce something even more problematic. Wildhartlivie (talk) 06:37, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
McLaughlin Reference on Julee Rosso Page
On Julee Rosso's page, the connecting link to Michael McLaughlin (the cookbook author) is going to the wrong Michael McLaughlin (the British far-right politician). Also, I have a copy of The Silver Palate Good Times Cookbook, which references Sarah Leah Chase, not McLaughlin, as its co-author. However, McLaughlin may have worked on other cookbooks besides The Silver Palate Cookbook with Julee Rosso and Sheila Lukins. I have not checked Sheila Lukins' page to see if there are similar problems.Barb Wooley (talk) 20:21, 11 February 2010 (UTC)Barb Wooley
- Feel free to correct these errors. And bring it up on the article's talk page. :-)-Duribald (talk) 21:00, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
We have a long-standing dispute/edit war going on at Yehuda Amichai. User:Epeefleche is currently trying to mediate at Talk:Yehuda Amichai, but it's quite intense and it looks like it's going to take a fair bit of time and effort. If there's anyone here who might be able to join in the mediation attempt, and offer opinions and suggestions, I would be very grateful. (Disclaimer: I am one of the parties in the dispute). I have produced a lot of diffs to illustrate the problem, but they're probably not needed at this stage yet - I have them for when they're needed. -- Boing! said Zebedee 14:46, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
Mimi Smith GA Sweeps: On Hold
I have reviewed Mimi Smith for GA Sweeps to determine if it still qualifies as a Good Article. In reviewing the article I have found several issues, which I have detailed here. Since the article falls under the scope of this project, I figured you would be interested in contributing to further improve the article. Please comment there to help the article maintain its GA status. If you have any questions, let me know on my talk page and I'll get back to you as soon as I can. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talk • contrib) 06:40, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
GA Reassessment of Sylvia Mendez
I have done a GA Reassessment of the Sylvia Mendez article as part of the GA Sweeps project. I have found the article does not meet current GA Criteria. My review can be found here. I have held the article for one week and I am notifying all interested projects and editors. If you have any questions or concerns please contact me on my talk page. H1nkles (talk) 22:25, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
T.S. Arthurs magazine "The childrens hour "
I have a copy of this magazine VOL.IX NO. 4 i would like to find out more about it mostly about worth any information would be great email me at email@example.com Zigzagdude1966 (talk) 02:28, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
DR. VAN SERTIMA ENTRY IS RIDDLED WITH WESTERN BIAS
I was executive producer of a long running radio program which featured Dr. Van Sertima's work. I also had the pleasure of attending a lecture he gave at California State University at Dominguez Hills. I also spoke with him at length by phone about a book he was finishing: "The Golden Age Of The Moor". The founder of the program has countless hours of Dr. Van Sertima in both lecture, and interview.
The late Dr. Van Sertima was constantly embattled with attacks from European centered critics that want to keep clear facts about Africans in antiquity out of history. I attempted to truthfully, edit this un-abashed malignment of his work and memory to keep it in the "conjecture" catagory in the minds of readers about him.
I researched Dr. Van Sertima's findings, and came to the same OBJECTIVE conclusions he did. Its fact that the Native Americans were Africoid. I've researched countless drawings, and etchings of early natives that substantiate his documentation.
I am tired of White supremacist media lying about the truth in history to affirm its so-called stronghold on the minds of Black people. The truth is already out, and there is no turning back. Shame on you Wikipedia for leaving this blasphemy on the name, character, and work of one of the greatest historian, anthropologists of the 20th, and 21st century. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bbey2 (talk • contribs) 07:30, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
FYI Biographical infoboxes
Just what some more eyes to see this conversation...I am just not sure if a consensus has been reached on this old topic as no one can really show me any proof of it..i know its an old debate but we have had a few editors deleting infobox templates from FA articles.. Pls see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Composers#Biographical infoboxes Thanks for you time on this matter!!..Buzzzsherman (talk) 03:27, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
Yehuda Amichai RfC
Hi. There is an RfC currently in progress on the Yehuda Amichai Talk page, concerning an ongoing content dispute. As the article is within the scope of WikiProject Biography, someone involved might wish to comment. -- Boing! said Zebedee 04:35, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
Lewis vs. Klitschko
The last sentence of this section states that Lewis was leading 58-56 on points when the fight was stopped. However, other sources suggest that it was in fact Klitschko who was leading with the same points score. My best source for this is at http://www.411mania.com/boxing/columns/99658/From-the-Vault-03.18.09:-Lewis-vs.-Klitschko.htm. I don't know how authoritative this would be considered. Other web sources also suggest that Klitschko was leading but without being so unequivocal about the score at the TKO.
Lady Gaga image
Hi all. I wanted to have a clarification from a biography point of view. In the Lady Gaga article, which of the following images is best suited to be used in the infobox?
My suggestions would be the second one, as it displays a recent most image and the subject's profile fully, rather than the first one, which is quite distorted. What do you guys think? --Legolas (talk2me) 10:27, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
- File:Gaga on Fame Ball1-edit.jpg is much sharper. Hekerui (talk) 10:48, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
Dear project editors, I am not very experience with BLPs so would someone be kind enough to go look at this new article on the award-winning Danish designer Poul Lange, who lives and works in NYC? If anything needs fixing please go ahead and fix it or let me know what needs doing. I am going to try to see if it can become a DYK, so thanks for any help you can give me. Best wishes and many thanks, Invertzoo (talk) 20:35, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
RfC needing comments
Your comments at the RfC debate on infoboxes over at WP:Composers would be welcome: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Composers#A new perspective
- Second this request for wider input to this discussion. This is an ongoing issue that needs to be properly resolved, through a widely-participated review. Please come and give your thoughts on the statement linked. Happy‑melon 16:23, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
While something of a biographer, I've not been here before. I wanted to mention that the Dictionary of National Biography (DNB), Victorian version, is being posted at Wikisource, a project that will take a number of years yet. Very many Wikipedia biographies (deaths by 1900) do cite the DNB in this edition, and I have created a maintenance category Category:Articles requiring a direct DNB link for any articles that would benefit from linking to an online biography in the DNB. As things stand, about 10% of the biographies have been created, and adding the category on the Talk page of any article will mean that biographies that are needed for referencing here can be given some priority. (I have in mind that the category will mainly be used in cases where the paper DNB is already cited; I'm interested in existing online citations too, but I have found many of those with the External Link Search tool. If you add the category when the DNB is not yet cited in the article, please leave a Talk page note if you are thinking of someone other than the subject of the article, otherwise it could be puzzling.) Charles Matthews (talk) 15:29, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
Question: Biography of a married couple
Having created a variety of biography articles, I am drafting an article entitled: Doris Ashley and Franklin Daniel Huffine. As can be deduced from the title Doris and Dan are a married couple. Apart from their early years and few years after Dan’s death, their biographies are essentially the same inter-twined story of their years working in and around Glacier National Park. If one wrote separate articles on each, each article would contain essentially the same story. Notability is not an issue here. My question is this: Are there guidelines or MOS issues I should be concerned about in crafting this article? A quick review of the Biography project pages provide no clues in this regard. Below is the probable lead-in to this article and potential outline.
Doris Dorothy Ashley (born February 1, 1902, died January 20, 1989) and Franklin Daniel (Dan) Huffine (born 1905, died December 2, 1984) married 47 years were Glacier National Park (U.S.) employees, concessionaire employees, entrepreneurs in and about Glacier National Park operating several tourist related establishments and museums in close proximity to the park from 1925 to 1989. --Mike Cline (talk) 02:22, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
GA reassessment of Daniel Rodríguez
I have conducted a reassessment of the above article as part of the GA Sweeps process. You are being notified as this project's banner is on the talk page. I have found some concerns which you can see at Talk:Daniel Rodríguez/GA1. I have placed the article on hold whilst these are fixed. Thanks. Jezhotwells (talk) 11:40, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
The VAC declined to overturn his loss to Mike Easton. someone fix http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/Controversial-Easton-Beebe-Decision-Stands-22079 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.127.116.11 (talk) 03:20, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
James Pittendreigh MacGillivray - Misspelt
I noticed that "James Pittendreigh MacGillivray" has his name wrongly spelt. It should be spelt as "James Pittendrigh MacGillivray", i.e. without the "e".
- Sent to WP:RM for admin assistance: James Pittendreigh MacGillivray → James Pittendrigh Macgillivray The external links actually use the un-CamelCased version of his surname, too, but that is also blocked by page history. --Jubilee♫clipman 22:57, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
Pope Joan - medical aspect
User talk: As a retired scientist (reproductive medicine, biochemist) since six years, I (Jeanne S. E. Dericks-Tan) missed the medical aspect of Pope Joan in english as well as in german wikipedia articles. Since my retirement, I am dealing with gardening and reproduction in botany (fruit, wildfruit) with historical aspects from the ancient time untill now. Together with my coauthor Gabriele Vollbrecht (history, mathematics), we contribute to many german wikipedia articles.
In the section Related issues or see also - we propose to add Pope Joan: an obvious syndrome:
A feminine phenotype could hardly not be a pope, she must be masculine. This could be the case in females with high androgen secretion such as in adrenal hyperplasia, androgen-producing tumours or hermaphroditismus verus. Persons with these syndromes must not be infertile as seen in paintings of the 16.-19. century (e. g. Manuel Deutsch (1481-1530): Femme enceinte et barbue; Jose de Ribera (1591-1652): Maddalena Ventura; Madame Fortune Clofullia, the Bearded Lady of Geneva).    /archive 1--VoDeTan 09:23, 24 February 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by VoDeTan (talk • contribs)
W. Michael Blumenthal
In Time magazine in 1979 it says that the former U.S. Treasury Secretary W. Michael Blumenthal was married to Eileen Policy since 1951 while Wikipedia says that he married Margaret Polley in 1951. I wonder was Eileen Policy previously Margaret Polley ? Pat Flynn —Preceding unsigned comment added by 18.104.22.168 (talk) 15:43, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
Category:WPBiography templates using nested parameter
I dunno what's going on with Category:WPBiography templates using nested parameter, but I found it unparented and added a parent category ... however, it contains tons of article talk pages. I suspect that some template which is supposed to be in this category has omitted the
<noinclude>...</noinclude> wrappers. I haven't the energy to fix it myself, but maybe someone might like to investigate.
Talal Maddah - Biography - is almost unreadable.
The bio for Talal Maddah looks like an automatic translated article and is almost unreadable. Please review it, i would do this for myself but i'm not a native english speaker. This great artist deserves better... Thanks. Ultragroove (talk) 11:30, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
Closure of Composers project RfC (see above)
I have proposed that the RfC be closed. Please continue to voice your opinion at the straw poll, also, as that must be the barometer for consensus. After that we can consider the full implications, deal accordingly and move on. Thank you --Jubilee♫clipman 16:41, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
- Proposal rejected by admin and discussion moved off Composers project talk page. New link: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Composers/Infoboxes RfC --Jubilee♫clipman 18:52, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
User:Tutmosis has nominated k-os for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Dabomb87 (talk) 15:11, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
- M.I. New, E. S. Kitzinger. Pope Joan: A recognizable syndrome. J Clin Endocrinol Metab 76 (1993) 3-13
- Dericks-Tan, Martin: Onans Kinder. Merk-Würdiges zu Sexualität und Fortpflanzung aus Geschichte und Medizin. Abadi Verlag 2000, ISBN 978-3-00-006497-5, S. 134-138
- Mehler N, Dericks-Tan JSE. Johanna die Wahrscheinliche – ein schwangerer Papst? Zentralbl Gynäkol 121 (1999) 79-81