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Welcome!

Hello, Gjr rodriguez, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Unfortunately, one or more of the pages you created, like Chad Huffman, may not conform to some of Wikipedia's guidelines for page creation, and may soon be deleted.

There's a page about creating articles you may want to read called Your first article. If you are stuck, and looking for help, please come to the New contributors' help page, where experienced Wikipedians can answer any queries you have! Or, you can just type {{helpme}} on this page, and someone will show up shortly to answer your questions. Here are a few other good links for newcomers:

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you have any questions, check out Wikipedia:Where to ask a question or ask me on my talk page. Again, welcome! TillsTalk 15:14, 23 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed deletion of Chad Huffman

A proposed deletion template has been added to the article Chad Huffman, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process because of the following concern:

Notability not established per WP:ATHLETE. TillsTalk 15:14, 23 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

All contributions are appreciated, but this article may not satisfy Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and the deletion notice should explain why (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{dated prod}} notice, but please explain why you disagree with the proposed deletion in your edit summary or on its talk page.

Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised because, even though removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the proposed deletion process, the article may still be deleted if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria or it can be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. TillsTalk 15:14, 23 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

March 2009

Welcome to Wikipedia. It might not have been your intention, but your recent edit removed content from Chad Huffman. When removing text, please specify a reason in the edit summary and discuss edits that are likely to be controversial on the article's talk page. If this was a mistake, don't worry; the text has been restored, as you can see from the page history. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia, and if you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you. TillsTalk 18:02, 23 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Please do not remove Articles for deletion notices from articles or remove other people's comments in Articles for deletion pages, as you did with Chad Huffman. Doing so won't stop the discussion from taking place. You are, however, welcome to comment about the proposed deletion on the appropriate page. Thank you. Fastily (talk) 06:38, 24 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Your created articles

Hey. Hope this doesn't come off badly, but I've been looking through your articles, and I'm seeing that a good deal of them are not notable. Minor league players in general are not inherently notable. They'd either have to be close to making the majors (i.e. at AAA for a season or so) or have some pretty good college or minor league accolades (pitcher of the week wouldn't be enough, the player would have to make the a-level all-star team or something along those lines. Just letting you know now, in case more do get deleted in the future and you're left wondering why. Wizardman 16:42, 25 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

AfD nomination of Greg Burke

I have nominated Greg Burke, an article that you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Greg Burke. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time.

Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message. Wizardman 16:44, 25 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed deletion of Jordan Parraz

A proposed deletion template has been added to the article Jordan Parraz, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process because of the following concern:

Minor league baseball players do not pass WP:ATHLETE even if they were drafted by a major league team.

All contributions are appreciated, but this article may not satisfy Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and the deletion notice should explain why (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{dated prod}} notice, but please explain why you disagree with the proposed deletion in your edit summary or on its talk page.

Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised because, even though removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the proposed deletion process, the article may still be deleted if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria or it can be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. kelapstick (talk) 15:23, 26 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed deletion of Brian McFall

A proposed deletion template has been added to the article Brian McFall, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process because of the following concern:

Minor league baseball players who have not played in a major league game do not pass WP:ATHLETE even if they were drafted by a major league team.

All contributions are appreciated, but this article may not satisfy Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and the deletion notice should explain why (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{dated prod}} notice, but please explain why you disagree with the proposed deletion in your edit summary or on its talk page.

Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised because, even though removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the proposed deletion process, the article may still be deleted if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria or it can be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. kelapstick (talk) 15:39, 26 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed deletion of Juan Richardson

A proposed deletion template has been added to the article Juan Richardson, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process because of the following concern:

Minor league baseball players who have not played in a major league game do not pass WP:ATHLETE even if they were drafted by a major league team.

All contributions are appreciated, but this article may not satisfy Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and the deletion notice should explain why (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{dated prod}} notice, but please explain why you disagree with the proposed deletion in your edit summary or on its talk page.

Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised because, even though removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the proposed deletion process, the article may still be deleted if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria or it can be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. kelapstick (talk) 15:40, 26 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed deletion of Marc Maddox

A proposed deletion template has been added to the article Marc Maddox, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process because of the following concern:

Minor league baseball players who have not played in a major league game do not pass WP:ATHLETE even if they were drafted by a major league team.

All contributions are appreciated, but this article may not satisfy Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and the deletion notice should explain why (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{dated prod}} notice, but please explain why you disagree with the proposed deletion in your edit summary or on its talk page.

Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised because, even though removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the proposed deletion process, the article may still be deleted if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria or it can be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. kelapstick (talk) 15:41, 26 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed deletion of Ed. Lucas

A proposed deletion template has been added to the article Ed. Lucas, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process because of the following concern:

Minor league baseball players who have not played in a major league game do not pass WP:ATHLETE even if they were drafted by a major league team.

All contributions are appreciated, but this article may not satisfy Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and the deletion notice should explain why (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{dated prod}} notice, but please explain why you disagree with the proposed deletion in your edit summary or on its talk page.

Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised because, even though removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the proposed deletion process, the article may still be deleted if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria or it can be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. kelapstick (talk) 15:41, 26 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Issues with WP:ATHLETE policy

If you have a problem with the notablity guidelines for athletes I suggest you bring it up at Wikipedia talk:Notability (people), not on an articles talk page.--kelapstick (talk) 15:45, 26 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Also winning an award does is not part of WP:ATHLETE.--kelapstick (talk) 15:47, 26 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed deletion of Blake Wood

A proposed deletion template has been added to the article Blake Wood, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process because of the following concern:

Minor league baseball players who have not played in a major league game do not pass WP:ATHLETE even if they were drafted by a major league team.

All contributions are appreciated, but this article may not satisfy Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and the deletion notice should explain why (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{dated prod}} notice, but please explain why you disagree with the proposed deletion in your edit summary or on its talk page.

Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised because, even though removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the proposed deletion process, the article may still be deleted if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria or it can be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. kelapstick (talk) 15:49, 26 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Alternative for minor league player articles

Welcome to Wikipedia! Wikipedia does not accept the notability of minor leauge players. There have been attempts in the past to change this, but all have failed. Don't expect the policy to change anytime soon.

With that in mind, I took the liberty of saving a number of your minor league player articles from deletion by merging and redirecting them to Kansas City Royals minor league players. The pages I worked on will automatically redirect to that player's section in the article.

You can do the same with other articles you have created or would like to create. If you'd like some help, feel free to ask me. Oh, and I also highly reccomend taking a look at the links in the very first message on your talk page (this page). They've got some great information concerning style guidelines, format, and article naming conventions. (For example, if there is already an article at Ed Lucas, a new article about a baseball player of the same name should be created at Ed Lucas (baseball). Again, feel free to ask me any questions. Good luck! -NatureBoyMD (talk) 17:11, 26 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hello again. I noticed you are still making minor league player pages. I'm worried that you maybe wasting your time if you keep creating them in this manner. I see a bunch of them have already been redirected to the articles about minor league players in each MLB organization. The ones that haven't have a very high probability of being deleted and/or redirected too. I support the inclusion of minor league players in Wikipedia, but stand-alone articles just aren't the way to do it. Let me suggest (again) an alternative. If you want to make an article about a player in the Oakland A's syetem, go to Oakland Athletics minor league players and create a new section about that player. Then you can create a redirect to that section from an article with the player's name. Also, read my comment about naming conventions again. Typically middle initials are not used to disambiguate one person from another on Wikipedia. Please feel free to ask me for any help or guidance you may need. -NatureBoyMD (talk) 15:57, 28 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Your recent edits

Hi there. In case you didn't know, when you add content to talk pages and Wikipedia pages that have open discussion, you should sign your posts by typing four tildes ( ~~~~ ) at the end of your comment. If you can't type the tilde character, you should click on the signature button located above the edit window. This will automatically insert a signature with your name and the time you posted the comment. This information is useful because other editors will be able to tell who said what, and when. Thank you! --SineBot (talk) 08:46, 27 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Please Stop

Please stop making articles on non-notable Minor league baseball players. According to WP:ATHLETE, they are not notable, so please stop--Yankees10 22:54, 27 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Please start

Assuming that you have complied with the advice above and are creating an article in the right place for the person's notability, will you please start to use proper wiki markup for tables. Using HMTL is contrary to the Wikipedia collaborative ethos - it discourages people from changing the article. — RHaworth (Talk | contribs) 18:46, 28 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Talkback

Hello, Gjr rodriguez. You have new messages at Radiant chains's talk page.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Radiant chains (talk) 07:58, 30 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ownership of articles

Welcome to Wikipedia. Everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to Wikipedia. However, please know that editors do not own articles and should respect the work of their fellow contributors. If you create or edit an article, know that others are free to change its content. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. -NatureBoyMD (talk) 20:37, 30 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did with this edit to the page Template:Charlotte Stone Crabs roster. Such edits constitute defacement and are reverted. Please do not continue to make unconstructive edits to pages; use the sandbox for testing. Thank you. Blanchardb -^{Me•MyEars•MyMouth}- timed 14:15, 31 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion of Michael Affronti

The article Michael Affronti has been speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This was done because the article, which appeared to be about a real person, organization (band, club, company, etc.), or web content, did not indicate how or why the subject is notable, that is, why an article about that subject should be included in Wikipedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not indicate the notability of the subject may be deleted at any time. If you can indicate why the subject is really notable, you are free to re-create the article, making sure to cite any verifiable sources.

Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, and for specific types of articles, you may want to check out our criteria for biographies, for web sites, for musicians, or for companies. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. If the subject has not played in a fully professional game, he is ineligible according to WP:ATHLETE. - CobaltBlueTony™ _talk 14:07, 2 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Reply to your comment on my talk page

WP:ATHLETE states that minor league players are not automatically notable. There was no presentation of notability other than being a player. If there is a rule change pending, it can only be applied once it is approved by the "Wikibrass". Select your AAA players carefully until then. - CobaltBlueTony™ _talk 14:24, 2 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

See Wikipedia:WikiProject_Baseball/Notability_guidelines for more clarity on this. If you are participating or are aware of a specific discussion on this, please link me so that I can read up on it and avoid any more confusion. Thanks! - CobaltBlueTony™ _talk 14:42, 2 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

A couple of comments

I see many, many people have talked to you about the minor league player articles.

Wikipedia operates on a couple of key principles. One is consensus. If a number of people are telling you that there isn't consensus that all minor league players are fully professional, it should be a clue to at least slow down and start talking to people.

Another is Wikipedia:Civility. You certainly aren't making any friends by calling people douchebags or telling people who make a good faith proposal for deletion to get over themselves. You'll get a lot further on Wikipedia if you treat people the way you would like to be treated.--Fabrictramp | talk to me 17:05, 2 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Do not remove speedy deletion tags from articles you created

Please do not remove speedy deletion tags from articles you created. If you do not believe the article deserves to be deleted, then please do the following:

Place {{hangon}} on the page. Please do not remove any existing speedy deletion tag(s).
Make your case on the article's talk page.

Administrators will look at your reasoning before deciding what to do with the article. Thank you. - CobaltBlueTony™ _talk 19:53, 2 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Your recent edits

Hi there. In case you didn't know, when you add content to talk pages and Wikipedia pages that have open discussion, you should sign your posts by typing four tildes ( ~~~~ ) at the end of your comment. If you can't type the tilde character, you should click on the signature button located above the edit window. This will automatically insert a signature with your name and the time you posted the comment. This information is useful because other editors will be able to tell who said what, and when. Thank you! --SineBot (talk) 20:18, 2 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed deletion of Todd Donovan

A proposed deletion template has been added to the article Todd Donovan, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process because of the following concern: