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Hi--I stumbled across this page and hope you don't mind my intrusion. Looks like you don't realize it's an American but not universal practice to put periods and commas inside quotation marks. Brits, for example, put them outside. Best, [[User:Yopienso|Yopienso]] ([[User talk:Yopienso|talk]]) 06:53, 21 March 2010 (UTC) |
Hi--I stumbled across this page and hope you don't mind my intrusion. Looks like you don't realize it's an American but not universal practice to put periods and commas inside quotation marks. Brits, for example, put them outside. Best, [[User:Yopienso|Yopienso]] ([[User talk:Yopienso|talk]]) 06:53, 21 March 2010 (UTC) |
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:I came here to respond to [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:JamesMLane&diff=351090287&oldid=349623076 your comment] on my talk page, but I see that Adrian J. Hunter has already addressed the point. Also note my comment a few threads up. I don't customarily discuss every change with an editor before making it -- see [[Wikipedia:BOLD, revert, discuss cycle]] -- but I did let you know what I was doing and why. |
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:On my talk page, you referred to logical quotation marks as "a punctuation method that cannot be found in any style manual." As Adrian's link to [[WP:LP]] shows, the method can be found in ''our'' style manual. You might be correct that the method can't be found in any ''other'' style manual, and I believe that argument has been made in the several discussions of this issue that have already occurred. For purposes of Wikipedia articles, however, if it's in [[WP:MoS]] (as it is), then the result is "one vote aye, seven votes nay, the ayes have it" (paraphrasing Lincoln when he disagreed with his entire Cabinet about something). |
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:Thus, this isn't "the manner which Wikipedia apparently tolerates" -- it's the manner that Wikipedia prescribes. |
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:As for use in legal papers, I haven't cracked the Blue Book in years, but my vague recollection is that it prescribes typographic style in most instances, but calls for logical style in quotations from statutes. Statutory quotations must be exact as to punctuation because the presence or absence of a comma can alter the meaning. That's just a side note, though; this project still follows the Wikipedia MoS regardless of what any other style guide says. [[User:JamesMLane|JamesMLane]]<small> [[User_talk:JamesMLane|t]] [[Special:Contributions/JamesMLane|c]]</small> 07:05, 21 March 2010 (UTC) |
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Punctuation style
I've reverted one of your recent edits to the Sierra Club article, in which you moved the comma in a reference to SUSPS. Pursuant to Wikipedia:Manual of Style#Punctuation inside or outside, Wikipedia uses the "logical" quotation style, under which the previous placement of the comma outside the quotation marks was correct (even though that's not the most common style). JamesMLane t c 21:04, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
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- Thanks for the reply. As I've said, this is a collaborative exercise and at least some discussion needs to take place. Sadly, no one ever seems to have given you a welcome messages so I'll add one with links to polices and guidelines. Edit summaries are explained at WP:Edit summary. I haven't changed anything you edited. For examples of edit summaries, click on the history tab of an article. Yes, not all editors leave them, but they should. To get a better understanding of Wikipedia, read WP:Verify, WP:RS and WP:OR for general stuff, and for our manual of style, WP:MOS. Each of these has an associated discussion page. Also, please don't forget to sign on talk pages (only) with four tildes. Thanks. Dougweller (talk) 06:03, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
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Punctuation style (again)
Could you please stop doing that ([1])? I see that you disagree with Wikipedia's WP:LP style. That's fine – most editors are going to have aspects of Wikipedia's guidelines they disagree with – but if we're all to get along in a project open to the entire world we need to follow long-established consensus. If you want to discuss the guideline the place to do so is Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style, though you should familiarise yourself with archived discussions first.
Thank you, Adrian J. Hunter(talk•contribs) 03:11, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
Hi--I stumbled across this page and hope you don't mind my intrusion. Looks like you don't realize it's an American but not universal practice to put periods and commas inside quotation marks. Brits, for example, put them outside. Best, Yopienso (talk) 06:53, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
- I came here to respond to your comment on my talk page, but I see that Adrian J. Hunter has already addressed the point. Also note my comment a few threads up. I don't customarily discuss every change with an editor before making it -- see Wikipedia:BOLD, revert, discuss cycle -- but I did let you know what I was doing and why.
- On my talk page, you referred to logical quotation marks as "a punctuation method that cannot be found in any style manual." As Adrian's link to WP:LP shows, the method can be found in our style manual. You might be correct that the method can't be found in any other style manual, and I believe that argument has been made in the several discussions of this issue that have already occurred. For purposes of Wikipedia articles, however, if it's in WP:MoS (as it is), then the result is "one vote aye, seven votes nay, the ayes have it" (paraphrasing Lincoln when he disagreed with his entire Cabinet about something).
- Thus, this isn't "the manner which Wikipedia apparently tolerates" -- it's the manner that Wikipedia prescribes.
- As for use in legal papers, I haven't cracked the Blue Book in years, but my vague recollection is that it prescribes typographic style in most instances, but calls for logical style in quotations from statutes. Statutory quotations must be exact as to punctuation because the presence or absence of a comma can alter the meaning. That's just a side note, though; this project still follows the Wikipedia MoS regardless of what any other style guide says. JamesMLane t c 07:05, 21 March 2010 (UTC)