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A Wolf to defend your page

Scientific studies show that have it on your page will ward off 99% of intruders. Redwolf24 (talk) 01:49, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

Red wolves are wonderful creatures, although endangered by the bigotry of E. NC formers and rainchers. Lone wolves, on the other hand, experience lives that are solitary, poor, nasty, brutish, and short, and get that way because they fail to achieve a mate. Geogre 02:17, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

Food for thought. What about wolf stars? —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 03:01, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

Madness, of course. "The dog star rages," as the man said. Also, it means that it's August. Hmmm, Paul? Geogre 04:31, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

Unfortunately, the wolf will not ward off Geogres. Redwolf24 (talk) 04:38, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

Speaking of: folks might want to keep a watch on User talk:Lonecanine while I sleep. (Likely thewolfstar sock, I've blocked, Doesn't seem worth AN/Iing.) —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 05:18, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

That corpse you planted in the garden, has it begun to sprout? Will it bloom this year? Oh keep the dog far hence, that's friend to men, or with his nails he'll dig it up again! No, I for one have stopped ANI'ing the dogstar. Just add any new pup to the category Sockpuppets of Thewolfstar (the sock tag will do that), and we'll have the whole lot of them in a tidy flock. This one I feel should be left and watched for a while. Obviously it's one of the family, tough, and good catch Grapey. Bishonen | talk 06:34, 29 May 2006 (UTC).

Aha, he was with you in the ships at My Lai? Geogre 12:15, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

Mon frère! Bishonen | talk 13:58, 29 May 2006 (UTC).

At least a hypocrite lecteur et semblabe. (Ah, it's a lost art, I tells ya'. Kids today don't even know what the thunder said or who's him when he's home or walking Dublin of a June morning with a Baedecker in your hand and Harry Blamires in the other or how Sweeney shifts from ham to ham in the bath while contemplating the darkened eye of Grishkin in the drawing room.) Geogre 14:47, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

I was editing my talk page

Archiving for the first time and messing with the settings, no need to bite my head off for not responding "soon enough". Yes, okay, fine, I concede, have it your way, but I still think it's unnecessarily cruelty to someone who's already hard a hard enough time of it (have you read some of the messages on the talk page like "is there anyone out there please talk to me?" etc? It's pretty sad. --Col. Hauler 22:37, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

The kiss of freedom

There's a lot of history, you know, in this car. I've been living in this car and its been a big part of my life. But you know its fucked me around quite a bit and sometimes it stalls on you, doesn't work right. You get to need to go somewhere and it's like, no, you're not fucking going anywhere because i'm gonna fuckin' stall on ya and it pisses you off. El_C 10:57, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

Fuck community college, let's get drunk and eat chicken fingers!

And you can teach how to get drunk, get fired from the police force, become a lousy trailer park supervisor that sucks, hangs around with a fucking idiot that doesn't wear a shirt and looks like a dick but thinks he looks good-101! El_C 10:57, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

If I can't smoke and swear I'm fucked

Thank you, your majesty. My first order of business is to tell the prosecutor to shut the fuck up, and wipe that stupid fucking grin off his face becasue it's distraculating my case. Next, I'd like to announce that Randy and Lahey have been drinking all day and they're wasted out of their fuckin minds, and they're both assholes. And the testimony they just gave is total fuckin bullshit and I can prove it ... Clearly Cory and Trevor accepted money on film, and they admitted they stole gas. And they're sick. I mean, look at them. That's gas sickness. Fucking idiots. I got nothing else to say right now except that the Crown and Lahey can go fuck themselves. The defense rests, everybody can fuck off. Except you, I didn't mean you. But those two guys, and him. Can you guys get the fuck out of the way, please? El_C 10:57, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

• Stay away from the brown acid. The brown acid is poison, man. Geogre 21:01, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

• Trinity has Got to quit smoking, like i can't have her smoking anymore, it's ridiculous. El_C 23:06, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

Temporary Relief Assistant Trailer Park Supervisor

I guess you didn't hear what I just said.
First thing i said was "It's my walkie now."
Second thing was "you're suspended."
And the Fourth Thing was "FUCK OFF!"
El_C 23:06, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

I'm not gay, I love Lucy. Wait a second, maybe I am gay

You know, there's certain accidents where you may be drunk and on drugs, but, it's gona happen anyway whether you are or you're not. Garbage truck, I mean the shocks are different, there's a lot more weight. Next thing I know, we're crashing into stuff, things are catching on fire. Like I said, it was no big deal. I don't know why I got fired over it, which really pissed me off. El_C 11:10, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

Jim Lahey Is a fuckin' drunk and he always will be

Breaker, breaker, come in earth. This is rocketship 27, aliens have fucked over the carbonator in engine number four, I'm gonna try to refuckulate it and land on Juniper, hopefuly they got some space weed. Over. How's that, buddy? I don't fuckin' know! NÁSA power rockets are firing all over the place, they got lasers and shooting and, uh... Bubles, I can't fuckin do this, my brain dosen't work with space talk, I hate playing space! El_C 22:27, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

And IRC had better not kick any of my fiancés if they know what's good for them! Bishonen | talk 22:35, 1 June 2006 (UTC).

Trinity, what the hell are you doing driving this car? Did your father tell you to drive...? Trinity, stop the car right now! TRINITY! I'M IMPOUNDING THIS VEHICLE! STOP THE CAR! ... Randy, did you see that? Goddanm shitapple driving the shitmobile. What kind of father let's his daughter do that? Nobody in this goddamn park gives a fuck, why the hell should I? El_C 05:09, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

I am the liquor

File:Tequila-sunny-window.jpg

I just want to say that just because Lucy spent the night in the drunk tank, dosen't mean she's a bad mother, I mean, everyone spends nights at the drunk tank. I've been there about ten times, I'm sure you have and you guys have, it's not a big deal, just happens everyonce in a while. And the problem was that she lives with this girl named Sarah, who smokes a ton of weed, and that's what happens: When Lucy gets drunk, she's fine. She gets drunk and smokes a joint of hash, she's fine. She gets drunk and smokes a joint of weed, she's a different person. And that's why she ended up in the drunk tank, because of Sarah and her little weed joints. But as for the open liquor, I mean, I live in my car. My car is my home. So that should'nt have been open liquor anyway. You guys must have liquor around your house, probably all kinds of liquor; I'm sure you got liquor at your home. Cops pull you over in your house, how is that open liquor? Anyway, the big thing is [augh, just dropped my smoke there]: I'm gonna have a lot of money coming to me in the next couple of days, which, I'm not gonna tell you how I'm making it, but it's gonna be a lot of money. Gonna bail my dad out of jail and I'll buy a trailer. I'll be living there, Lucy will be living there, there's going to be lot's of people watching over Trinity, so this can't ever happen again. And you know, if you just release her, send her back to her mom; her mom is great, good mother. And I'll be looking after her once in a while when she is drinking, but other than that, she'll be always watched, and my dad can watch her when he's not drunk. But tonight I'm getting drunk, because it's my turn. Lucy got drunk yesterday and this is my day, so I'm gonna get her... I'm not gonna drink before she gets home, I'm gonna get her to Lucy, Lucy will be watching her, then I'll have some drinks. So, yeah, I think we're done here, and I'll just pick up my duaghter and take her home to Lucy. Get drunk. El_C 05:09, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

A dope trailer is no place for a kitty

Oh, I get it. Treena, that's a great idea! Julian, books have stuff recorded down all over the years from people, and if we can find a book with someone who had similar problems, just take what they wrote down in the book and [augh, fuck! sorry, Treena] take what they wrote down and make it ours. El_C 07:30, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

"Attica! Attica!"

... I go off and get drunk in the Caribbean, and come back to find all of you were apparently less connected than I... What psychotomimetic drugs were you all taking? KillerChihuahua^?!? 16:03, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

I'm not sure who gave El C the overripe rye bread, but all this love of the proletariat is getting out of hand. There's a reason we're trying to free those people. Now they should just hold still and vote socialist, and we'll be helping them along soon. Geogre 16:27, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

I like this "getting out of hand" sentiments that my various Ricky quotations are invoking., although I think he's is more of a [lovable] lumpen. But as for how far voting can free the people, as Chairman Mao said: the bullet, not the ballot. El_C 23:16, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

"The Bible or the ballot/ The bullet or the gun." Yeah, yeah, but any violent overthrow fostered by, designed by, led by, or containing non-proles is just another totalitarianism. Meanwhile, actual socialism of a non-19th-century-economic-theorist variety comes through the ballot, not the bullet, and leaves all alive, not some dancing on graves. I already have a religion and don't need to believe so fervently in one disgruntled Hegelian that I'll pass up social justice that doesn't fit his predictions. Geogre 04:09, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Well, "yeah yeah," this is no longer the 19th Century, some things change but some fundamentals stay the same. I have no need for a religion, and you'd be critically mistaken to confuse a breadth of vision with faith, or militant rhetoric with crude anarchoangst ... if you actually get down to whichever underlying particulars. I'm uninterested in prediction and prophecies, then, but am confident in the inevitability of certain things becoming explicable in the course of human history. Violence is tragic, but these are violent conditions and tragic times for billions of people. Hunger is violence, as is plunder. I want no violence, in any sense of the word, but I also know that the imperialists will (and have been) wage war over their continued ownership of the planet, and they are able to do it effectively because they are in power right now. At some point in time, the people will prove well-organized, well-led, and progressive enough to be able to defeat them. It may take hundreds of years, hopefuly less. But so long as the imperialists are allowed to exist as such, an existence which is indefinitely guranteed when accepting parliamentary and electoral machinations as a final strategy, there will be no end in sight, no possibility for a stable (not to mention, genuine and holistic) social justice. Obviosuly, I'm not calling for armed struggle in countries that are more suited at the present time to legal forms of struggle, I only emphasize on the revolutionary character that this struggle needs to take. Because I'm realistic about the lengths the imperialists will go to forever stay in power; on what it would take to overthrow them, and the realities that define the nature of their system, this system, the unfathomable toll it takes on humanity. El_C 06:01, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

The one critical mistake there is assuming that "they" won't be "them." In the past, every armed revolution for justice has been led by someone who turns it to private benefit and who always intended to do so. Perhaps the Zapatistas are pure, but they also struggle not for The Revolution but for indigent rights. Imperialists will do anything to remain? Indeed. They'll coopt revolutions, join juntas, and this is when the revolutionaries and juntas don't decide to become ideological imperialists and justify their own economic parasitism by pointing to the bearded Hegelian instead of the periwigged republicans. The reason I applaud the Sandanistas, and few others, is that they were a democratic socialism and willingly stepped down when they lost elections. Only having the people continually controlling will enable anything like a socialist state; otherwise, it's one totalitarianism that becomes imperialistic vs. another. Geogre 12:21, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

If a formerly revolutionary party sells out and becomes social imperialist, as the USSR and the PRC did, they need to be overthrown, too. But put back on track, not replaced with other imperialists. This is one of the lessons that needs to be drawn from the mistakes of the past. It isn't possible to build socialism in countries to the point where these contradictions no longer exist so long as one buys into these liberal-democratic games as the will of the people. Inhabitants of imperialist countries especially have been indoctrinated from a very early age not to intellectually surpass certain limitations which ultimately serve to defend the vital interests of the imperialists. This, then, is expressed even among more progressive tendencies, in romaticized and unscientific notions, ones which distort both the meaning of and relationality between democracy and dictatorship. While I applaud moderate progressive forces such as the Sandinistas and the Zapatistas (even Emiliano Zapata was ultimately a moderate progressive), I support the FARC-EP and others who offer a broader vision, one ultimately not bound by parochial localism. A socialist state is but one key stage of the struggle. It will not be possible to share power and resources in this planet in a natural and noncoersive way by envisioning socialist (or any) states existing indefinitely. But giving up on revolution because it might go wrong and one would need to take a few steps back before taking further steps forward, or even starting it all over, is far too deterministic and historically unhumble for me. The tired claim that the failure of revolutions in this past century are bound to be repeated in that sense for all centuries to come, is the sort of human nature argument that I reject and history has rejected; for ex., the supposed (sub)human nature of women, of different ethnic groups, and so on. Those contradictions once thought of as the final (biblical & otherwise) word, are still with us to the detriment of all but the imperialists and their lackyes. With the contradiction of class gone, they too will become but a fleeting nightmerish memory. But with easily circumvented or suppressed electoralism as a final strategy, all these contradictions will remain a reality. I look beyond them. El_C 21:26, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

So you want to believe in History, because it shows the necessity of a revolution, but you don't want to believe in history that shows that every worker's revolution has been a totalitarian one? You want to relegate any concepts of representation to the dustbin because they were cooked up by gentry, but you want to hang onto concepts of classless societies despite their being concocted by a German gentry? You want the will of the people to be invisibly present in the future society, but you don't want to hear from them in any say on the government? And, if any particular historical example turns out to be corrupt, you want to say that it wasn't genuine. More, though, you say that people can't tell what they want because of their historical conditioning, and yet you can see what they should want in spite of historical conditioning. Finally, while you are against imperialism (presumably as an economic formation), you dismiss any local social justice in favor of those who believe in invading their neighbors to spread the good word of socialism. Sorry, but I'm of my own opinion still. Geogre 04:49, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

In chopped order:
Q1. So you want to believe in History, because it shows the necessity of a revolution, but you don't want to believe in history that shows that every worker's revolution has been a totalitarian one?

A1. I don't believe every worker's revolution has been a totalitarian one, I do believe that inhabitants of imperialists countries have been indoctrinated from a very early age to think that.

Q2. You want to relegate any concepts of representation to the dustbin [of history ?]

A2. Far from relegating every concept of representation, I want ones the imperialists do not control, even indirectly, by virtue of owning the means of communication in that society, and so on.

Q3. Because they were cooked up by gentry [?]

A3. I fail to see where I mentioned the gentry.

Q4. [B]ut you want to hang onto concepts of classless societies despite their being concocted by a German gentry?

A4. I'm not following how that. Yes, the concept of a classless society, eventually. But inhabitants of imperialist countries have been indoctrinated to see such a stage as impossible or the opposite of what it is (i.e. as monolithic, boring uniformity, etc.)

Q5. You want the will of the people to be invisibly present in the future society, but you don't want to hear from them in any say on the government?

A5. I want them to end up having more of a say, I just don't want to be an imperialist-dominated government. The dictatorship would be over the imperialists and the democracy of and by the people, the opposite of how it is now, where the imperialists impose their dictatorship (electoral & otherwise illusions aside) over the people. But eventually, there will be no need of a government as we understand it.

Q6. [I]f any particular historical example turns out to be corrupt, you want to say that it wasn't genuine.

A6. If something (anything) turns out to be corrupt, than either it wasn't genuine to begin with, or at some point it stopped being genuine.

Q7. More, though, you say that people can't tell what they want because of their historical conditioning, and yet you can see what they should want in spite of historical conditioning[?]

A7. Moi? In spite of and because of historical conditioning, with science and a correct scientific theory we can go beyond the abyss. But, no, it is revolutionary conditions that result in more people becoming open to what myself and my comrades are for, or nothing happens.

Q8. [W]hile you are against imperialism (presumably as an economic formation), you dismiss any local social justice in favor of those who believe in invading their neighbors to spread the good word of socialism.

A8. Against imperialism in all its form, of course, though my focus is economic (for a reason). I far from dismissed local social justice, even when it is (what I think you meant to say) of a narrow scope. But I am for acting local and think global. Nor do I think (or anywhere said) that I support invasions or finds these particularly useful or progressive, though in some instances they may well be.

Q9. Sorry, but I'm of my own opinion still.

A9. `You would go into the militia yourself,' was Ernest's retort, `and be sent to Maine, or Florida, or the Philippines, or anywhere else, to drown in blood your own comrades civil-warring for their liberties. While from Kansas, or Wisconsin, or any other state, your own comrades would go into the militia and come here to California to drown in blood your own civil-warring.' `Not when the government suspends civil law. In that day when you speak of rising in your strength, your strength would be turned against yourself. Into the militia you would go, willy-nilly. Habeas corpus, I heard some one mutter just now. Instead of habeas corpus you would get post mortems. If you refused to go into the militia, or to obey after you were in, you would be tried by drumhead court martial and shot down like dogs. It is the law.' El_C 08:23, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

When the Revolution Comes (an original poem

When the revolution occurs, the best that can be imagined will be;

And the student leader will be draped in a sheet, head back,

While a friendly lady shampoos his hair before the stylist goes to work.

The sun's rays will shatter on the erupting glass of the shop door

And the revolutionary, bulging in striped horizontal spandex,

With her burp gun now vomitting its bullets, will take her aims

Out to the street.

The moment, like lightning from east to west across the skies,

Like a bridegroom coming to the hall at night, when the virgins run out of oil,

Will catch the organizer awash, plashing, staring,

While a deluxe massager shower head beats his throbbing neck

As the workers in Guatemala never intended when they put it together.

The small beer men will hardly notice.

The torturer, looking up from the water dancing on the cloth over the stubble

Of a three year old "ticking bomb," will tell himself again that it's worth it.

Some people will get shot, and some will do the shooting, and he can be one or the other.

The revolution will be only as great as we can imagine it.

Geogre 16:10, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

Most dangerous

Most treacherous is not the robbery
of hard earned wages
Most horrible is not the torture by the police.
Most dangerous is not the graft for the treason and greed.

To be caught while asleep is surely bad
surely bad is to be buried in silence
But it is not most dangerous.

To remain dumb and silent in the face of trickery
Even when just, is definitely bad
Surely bad is reading in the light of a firefly
But it is not most dangerous
Most dangerous is
To be filled with dead peace
Not to feel agony and bear it all,
Leaving home for work
And from work return home
Most dangerous is the death of our dreams.

Most dangerous is that watch
Which run on your wrist
But stand still for your eyes.

Most dangerous is that eye
Which sees all but remains frostlike,
The eye that forgets to kiss the world with love,
The eye lost in the blinding mist of the material world.
That sinks the simple meaning of visible things
And is lost in the meaning return of useless games.

Most dangerous is the moon
Which rises in the numb yard
After each murder,
But does not pierce your eyes like hot chills.

Most dangerous is the song
Which climbs the mourning wail
In order to reach your ears
And repeats the cough of an evil man
At the door of the frightened people.

Most dangerous is the night
Falling in the sky of living souls,
Extinguishing them all
In which only owls shriek and jackals growl,
And eternal darkness covers all the windows.

Most heinous is the direction
In which the sun of the soul light
Pierces the east of your body.

Most treacherous is not the
robbery of hard earned wages
Most horrible is not the torture of police
Most dangerous is not graft taken for greed and treason. -- Paash

El_C 20:48, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

RfA Notification

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Administrators should each wear a bell

I've finally seen the query you mentioned. It's nearly impossible to negotiate all those pages associated with the SS case. The drowning often flail, and it's dangerous to get near them. I'm really on edge, myself, as I still don't have the danged book I'm supposed to use for this class. That should change today. Oh, and of course everything happens the moment anything happens, so it's feast or famine on busy-ness. Geogre 12:25, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

Your comments

Thank you for your comments concerning DreamGuy. I would ask you to review his edits in detail prior to making further statements on this matter. I note he is already the subject of an RfC for abusive and obnoxious behaviour, and has been accused (by me) of using sockpuppets to subvert the 3RR - there is clear evidence of this within the last 24 hours at Beelzebub. Victrix is his sock. I would also point out that I did not revert his talk page 5 times as you claimed - I reverted it 3 times - as it says clearly in my edit summary - and I then added 2 further comments without re-adding the original comments. --Centauri 22:20, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

These are the reverts I refer to, all within the span of an hour: 1 2 3 4 5

Note also that you edited DG's page twelve times altogether in less than an hour and a half, against repeated and insistent requests to desist. And today you resumed. Seriously, just stop. As for your accusations of sockpuppetry, they are rather serious. You may consider yourself lucky that DreamGuy isn't one to bother with RfCing people, or running to admins to complain. (He hasn't been in contact with me.) I urge you to either try to verify the specific User:Victrix accusation, or retract it as publicly as you've made it. Sockpuppet verification is quite easy: all you have to do is place the evidence you have on the Wikipedia:Requests for CheckUser page, and if it's at all convincing (which I assume it is, since you've been making public accusations based on it), one of the CheckUser admins will perform an IP check. Bishonen | talk 23:17, 31 May 2006 (UTC).

I take your point concerning the reversions - I had overlooked the fact that each time I added a new comment I also restored the old ones, and I apologise for my oversight. However, that does not change the fact that DreamGuy is obviously using at least 1 sockpuppet to openly subvert the 3RR, and I have formally sought verification accordingly, per your advice, so thanks for that. --Centauri 02:21, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

On RFA

I don't know what you were going for, but I don't think this edit had the desired effect... Dragons flight 00:44, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, Dragon. I was just adding my Oppose vote, that's all. Didn't get an edit conflict or anything. And do you see how a crapload of Oppose votes timestamped much earlier than mine have now appeared, also? Do you see any unclosed HTML tags on the page? Those can have effects like that. Bishonen | talk 01:01, 1 June 2006 (UTC).

Ummm... Help?

I don't know how busy you are, but we may have a WP:LAME in progress at SimCity 4. I don't know the rules well enough to yell at anyone, plus, I'm not an admin. It looks like both sides are being pretty stupid, so you should have fun with this one. RyanGerbil10 21:43, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

Er... so I see. "Recognized by hundreds", lol. Sorry, Ryan, no, I think I am too busy, really. I just this moment waded into an edit war at Eton College — I get these crazy impulses. I never yet had one of them over a game article, though. Could you please ask somebody who has actually ever played a computer game? I think it might help. I don't even understand half the edit summarries. Sorry. Bishonen | talk 22:16, 1 June 2006 (UTC).

Throw the book, I mean WP:EL, at them. The linkspam should go. (No, I'm not going to do it either.) —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 22:18, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

Ok. I just figured the ALL CAPS EDIT SUMMARIES and needed some attention. Thanks for your time, though. I'll let you know if it makes WP:LAME. RyanGerbil10 23:03, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

Howdy, Stranger

Or l'Etranger. So, do we have an article on...ready?...Louise Renée de Penancoët de Kéroualle, duchess of Portsmouth and duchess Aubigny? You know her as the duchess of Portsmouth. Is it worth the bother? I took notes on William Kidd, only to find that we have a fair enough article on him. I had also wanted to get John Gale (theologian) in, and did, but only after finding that John Gale was full of what is now at John Gale (director), and it had about 12 pages that linked to it, as someone had made a full web of B-movies. Changing all those links, then blanking (because John Gale (director) already existed with a one line substub about some dude who directed a play, once) and copying over, and then.... All so I could get in there, because there were four guys with that name with articles, so a disambig was necessary. BTW, found the coolest band in years: Drive By Truckers and particularly the album Pizza Deliverance and particularly the songs "Uncle Frank" and "The President's Penis is Missing" and "Nine Bullets" and "Margo and Harold" and virtually the whole record. Geogre 02:55, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

Louise de Kérouaille, Duchess of Portsmouth, or, as I know her (thanks to my gal Nell), "Squintabella". Speaking of Nell's rivals, it's Barbara Palmer, 1st Duchess of Cleveland that seems to have the most room for improvement -- she was something, I guess. —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 14:46, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

Barbara was the "Wycherley, you're a son of a whore" lady, right? The 1911 EB Wycherley article relates that story so coyly as to make it pretty much incomprehensible. Bishonen | talk 16:20, 2 June 2006 (UTC).

Yep, that's her, sleeping her way through the theatre circles on her way down from the king. The word "nymphomaniac" seems to crop up a lot in modern scholarship on her. —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 16:26, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

I think the DNB's entry for Portsmouth is exactly the kind of thing our honorifics people are heading toward. Cleveland: check. I'll get her on Monday. (Maybe Giano would like to meet her?) Geogre 17:40, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

Foolish sinners

Ave Maria, gratia plena, Dominus tecum, [1] Salve Maria [2] - it is a miracle she is returned to us. Forgive Oh Holly Mother the foolish one who is going to end up with very burnt fingers [3]. Sancta Maria, Mater Dei, ora pro nobis peccatoribus, nunc, et in hora mortis nostrae. Amen. Giano | talk 07:43, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

Thank you, we know you're very pious, how about you shut up now? Bishonen | talk 07:53, 2 June 2006 (UTC).

Bless you my child! Giano | talk 07:56, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

Did I ever tell you about the Regent's exam I graded? The question was, "If you could meet any person, living or dead, who would it be and why?" Well, I had several people answer "David Bowie." It was strange. While other people might say "Jesus Christ" or "Plato" or "William Shakespeare" or "Franklin Delano Roosevelt" or even "August Strindberg," these younguns kept saying "David Bowie," and one of them put it succinctly: "Because he has been so very attractive to both males and females for so very long." Geogre 11:34, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

Just as bishounen are. I got called "pretty boy" yesterday, which would have been kind of interesting if it hadn't been by the biggest bastard and least attractive man on the entire site. (ZOMG NPA!) Bishonen | talk 16:34, 2 June 2006 (UTC).

"If you could meet any person, living or dead, who would it be and why?" Anybody who doesn't name somebody dead should just be quietly removed from society for terminal lack of imagination. —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 16:29, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

Well, personally I would like to meet Charlene Tilton from Dallas, she had such amazing attributes. It was very unfair the way the British press called her the "The Poison Dwarf", actually while I think of it I quite liked Victoria Principal too, her portrayal of Pammy was very poignant and sensitive.......Oh those were the days they don't film quality literature like that any more........who was the one who played Sue-Ellen?, she and I would have got on like a house on fire....nothing wrong with my imagination Bunch, who wants to meet one of those dead mopey old women like Jeanne d'Arc running arownd doing goodly works - I wonder if she was a lesbian; allthough I do think Diane de Poitiers had nice attributes too, very firm, and was a bit of a go-er, not a lesbian at all, so perhaps I'd like to meet her too. Of sourse I would like to meet you as well Bishonen, but I know what you look like already - the blond one from Abba - can you sing as well? Giano | talk 17:22, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

Can I sing as well? You're kidding me. I can sing much better. (Didn't you hear the toneless droning back there? That was me humming Momus' song in celebration of myself.) Bishonen | talk 18:07, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

Another question from that exam: "If you could have any job for one year, what would it be and why?" My favorite answer was "Sales clerk at a department store," because "then I would get a 15% discount on clothes and get to see them before anyone else does." A bold vision, there. Geogre 17:42, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

Do they really get 15%? God! I wonder what the mark up is............Giano | talk 19:30, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

I'm not sure they do, but she seemed convinced so. I think the markup is about 50% or a bit more. Geogre 19:32, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

So you are saying if I sent my kids to work in Armani and Gucci, I could make a considerable saving each year? Not to mention the college fees, hypothetically meant to provide them with jobs which will not benefeit me. - Interesting! Giano | talk 19:44, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

Stuyvesant edit

My edit (12 faculty) was a misunderstanding and, well, I still don't understand. I'm not a native speaker and would appreciate an explanation very much :) --Missmarple 19:47, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

"Faculty" is used as a plural word meaning teaching staff. Right, Geogre..? American usage, I believe. I thought of changing it to "staff", but I bet that's open to misunderstanding too, so I went with "teachers". Hope I got it right. I'm not a native speaker either. Bishonen | talk 20:30, 2 June 2006 (UTC).

The faculty is a collective noun. There are twelve (spell all numbers below a thousand) faculty is Ok, but better to have "twelve faculty members." Geogre 21:07, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

Here it is, I should have linked it. The point is, Geogre, originally it did say "twelve faculty", which Missmarple misunderstood, in spite of clearly being a highly competent English speaker. Therefore, "twelve faculty" is not good; the text shouldn't be throwing up pointless snares for non-Americans. Therefore, I changed it to "teachers". As for spelling seven hundred and eighty-three, you jest, surely. I don't even spell "19th", when I'm talking about the century, and you don't either. Bishonen | talk 22:41, 2 June 2006 (UTC).

"Teachers" is fine, of course, and it's shorter than "faculty members," so it wins. (Didn't you hear that MOS can beat you up? That it is wrong to change from it? That it must be obeyed blindly and in all cases thoroughly? Didn't you hear that people who go around unlinking every year are doing good and that you must not object? Didn't you hear that the MOS says no apostrophe for plural dates, and therefore it doesn't matter what grammar says or national convention or other publications? You need to get with the program. See talk:Patriot Whigs for reeducation.) No, I do 18th century, but it really is a style sheet must to spell out all numbers below a thousand. Geogre 02:26, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks to you both :) --Missmarple 08:29, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

"Teachers" is fine, "staff" would not have been. In American education, "staff" means administrative, janitorial, etc. personnel, and "faculty" means instructional and research personnel. Faculty members, even those in secondary education, find it insulting to be called staff members. Thanks for the help on the article to all of you! RossPatterson 22:36, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Hmm. Insulting? Hmmm. We do? Hmm. Staff/faculty is an operative distinction within education, but all faculty and staff are "staffing" outside of education. I don't think I mind being called a member of the staff, but I'm not staff. Even within, though, I wouldn't say that it's insulting to be accidentally referred to as staff. After all, "staff" includes administration, and they're in charge. Geogre 03:15, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

In my experience as the son, brother, and ex-spouse of teachers and having been staff (but not faculty :-) ) at a university, that was the case. But far be it from me to contradict one of y'all. Y'all don't mind "staff", I'm fine with it too :-) RossPatterson 04:16, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

No, well, I have the endowed Mellow Fellowship, so.... (Really, I don't figure the staff is an enemy. They just don't understand is all.) Geogre 13:23, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

Yes, but I have the ... um, er ... oak leaf clust... um ... ah well, you win :-) We now return you to your regularly scheduled Caribbean ergot fantasy, already in progress. Thanks again for all the help with Stuyvesant High School! RossPatterson 22:39, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

tell tale tit

I just noticed this. How positively irksome. ElectricRay 23:26, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

I don't usually encourage people to delete anything at all on my page, but in this case, do feel free to remove your comment in case you come to realize how it makes you look. We all type too fast sometimes. Best wishes, Bishonen | talk 23:38, 2 June 2006 (UTC).

thanks for your magnanimity. But I'll take the consequences like a man. ElectricRay 23:49, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

Sucks when those targets you've been aiming at turn out to be strawmen, doesn't it? Geogre 02:23, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Removing material you didn't like from SlimVirgin page

My comments were serious. The comment I posted deserves to be heard. The accusation of trolling is a personal attack on me and is uncivil. If perhaps the header didn't meet with your approval then we could have talked about it.Mccready 06:58, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

All right, I won't remove it again, but I'm sure other people will, if you restore it in the same form. Do you want to sound like you're not trolling? Then you need to avoid using a sneering heading/edit summary, and avoid legalese like "allegedly banned" (you mean "blocked", right?) for a fact that you could so easily have verified (tip: click on Col. Hauler's talkpage, where the block message can be seen). Give your messages a chance to be heard. Bishonen 10:09, 3 June 2006 (UTC).

I removed Mccready's comment. He was recently given a short block for wikistalking SlimVirgin. The block was discussed and supported on AN/I. I see the comment I removed as uncivil and part of a pattern of tendentious editing. He has rigid thinking that shows up on Wikipedia as wikistalking, edit wars, and the inability to engage in consensus editing, and so on... We need to keep gently reminding him of our observations and enforcing Wikipedia policy. This is the only way that he will be transformed in to the very good editor that I know that he can be. Take care, FloNight ^talk 13:39, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Flo was mistaken. See the discussion on my talkpage.Mccready 02:39, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Is there a problem? Do you see my comment as encouraging trolling and harassment? Bishonen | talk 15:53, 4 June 2006 (UTC).

Or course not! The opposite is true. My comment was meant to be a statement of unity with you. I felt Mccready was pressuring you to let him post comments on SV talk page. The constant drip, drip, drip... of tendentious editors takes a toll on its recipients. Sorry I did not express myself more clearly. Take care, FloNight ^talk 16:32, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Dog Day Afternoon

Hey Bishonen. You were very very helpful with Hopkins School, and I recently saw you on FAC explaining your vote on Stuy. I was wondering if you could take a quick look at Dog Day Afternoon and possibly vote on the FAC, it currently has a couple of very small, technical opposes, and running up the support count (if you think it's worthy) a little couldn't hurt just numbers-wise. Staxringold _talk^contribs 20:57, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#.7B.7BUser.7CMoby_Dick.7D.7D

I thought you might want to review this. --Cat out 12:22, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Please use html links to subsections, Kawaii! Those actually work. (Until the page is refactored.) I'll take a look. Bishonen | talk 12:33, 4 June 2006 (UTC).

I took this to arbitration [4]. -Tony Sidaway 01:38, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. Yeah, I saw, good call. Bishonen | talk 01:49, 5 June 2006 (UTC).

3RR abuse

Hi. Thought you'd be interested to know that my well-founded suspicions concerning DreamGuy / Victrix sockpuppetry and abuse of the 3RR have been borne out. --Centauri 22:45, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

I saw it was deemed "likely", yes. Bishonen | talk 23:29, 4 June 2006 (UTC).

Compounded with the fact that edit summaries are the same, the likely verdict seems even more likely. It would be nice if somebody could advise Centauri what steps can be taken. Englishrose 14:23, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

Sure. I'd rather not initiate any action myself — I feel I'm the wrong person to, from several angles — but please tell Centauri he can report the situation on WP:ANI to request review and admin action. In fact, posting on ANI for input from other admins is the first thing I'd do in any case, if I was handling it. If you like, you can check out Wikipedia:Requests for administrator attention to look for alternatives, but I believe ANI is it. Bishonen | talk 15:09, 5 June 2006 (UTC).

Smile

Look what I've just found - isn't it fantastic?

-- Giano (talk • contribs) has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling to someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or just some-one grumpy like Geogre. Smile to others by adding {{subst:smile}}, {{subst:smile2}} or {{subst:smile3}} to their talk pages. Happy editing, and have a nice day!

/me runs for the hills. Scariest sight I ever saw: Gianozilla smiled at me! Oh, man. :-/ Bishonen | talk 14:15, 6 June 2006 (UTC).

The widget itself is scary, yes... it frightens me whenever I see it on a talk page, but I thought you and Giano were a "virtual item"... isn't that what lovers do, smile at each other a lot? Or when you're zilla-ish is it more a "rending flesh and stomping subway cars together" sort of shared activity thing? ++Lar: t/c 14:30, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

I beg your pardon, it's Geogre and I that are a virtual item (hi, hon!). Always excepting the times I'm on honeymoon with El C (hello, dear!). G'como and his gold medallion may have a special place in my heart, but ... Oh! Do I espy the beauteous Freplabella draw nigh, to comprehensively threaten my reign? And what IS that yapping and arfing? Bishonen | talk 14:41, 6 June 2006 (UTC).

You had better believe it, too. Who else sends you chocolate bars from across the Atlantic? Geogre 17:47, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Gold effect medallion. Just be glad you got a satirical as opposed to sincere {{smile}} spam: I got one a while back and I'm still paralyzed in horror. —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 14:49, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Gold plate effect laquer medallion. :-D Fatsobella | talk 15:12, 6 June 2006 (UTC).

Lovingly nestled in a 15-percent-off department-store-employee-discount chest wig. —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 15:17, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

You can get those at Prada? Gucci? I did not know that! ++Lar: t/c 15:31, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Yapping and arfing? What on earth could you be speaking of? (*innocent look*) KillerChihuahua^?!? 21:55, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

No no dear Bish, you quite misunderstand me if you think I have designs on your demesne. Quiet, my lovelies, some people just don't understaaaaaaaand! La Freplabella 15:28, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

How nice to see you adopting your new name, dear! I thought you'd be big enough not to mind the reference to Squintabella. Speaking of big ... no, I won't go there. Bishonen | talk 15:37, 6 June 2006 (UTC).

Which way IS your bread buttered, Frep? I'm so confused! And where's my tracklist? ++Lar: t/c 15:31, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Whichever way is yummiest! :-) La Bella Freppa 15:50, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Some guy at Valleyfair! on Friday had a shirt that said "I like girls that like girls"... not sure exactly what the connection is there but I did want to mention it because there clearly is one. ++Lar: t/c 17:19, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

It just means he likes fantasy, like the lipstick lesbians who want slovenly testosterone victims to watch or like Howard Stern's talent. Geogre 17:47, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

I was not aware that Howard Stern HAD talent. What I love about WP is how you learn all sorts of things. Some of them even true. ++Lar: t/c 18:14, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

OK Ok Ok enough wise cracks........something very nasty is going to descend on this page soon, then you'll all be sorry. Throwing my happy smiley back in my face.......just you wait! Giano | talk 18:18, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Julian: Listen, all you gotta do is keep a low profile, okay? And I'm gonna work on getting you out.

Ray: Low profile, Julian? What, you've been reading books again?

Julian: What's wrong with reading books?

Ray: Nothing's wrong with reading books, but there's only one book that counts, and that's The Bible. It says to help your friends.

Julian: Does it say anything about ripping off insurance companies, pretending you're in a wheel chair, and then getting caught drunk, dancing with hoes making porno flicks? Huh? Anything in your book about that, Ray?

Ray: It's open to interpretation. El_C 21:46, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Boo

Template:Linkimage Radley. Did you get the e-mail from me...the one where I talk bad about everyone here on this page? (I'm kidding. I only talked about Billy.) Geogre 04:54, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

I don't know what (or who) a Radley is, so I'll just take that as a request for more Ricky quotations outside of designated areas:

Ricky: Excuse me, I am a Doctor, he's a mental patient and he's on drugs. Just brought him down here for a little nature time. Um. Everything's cool.

Woman: Listen, I want this boy taken to town!

Ricky: No, I'm taking him to the hospital right now, he's a mental patient. I'm a medical Doctor, I am. That's my Doctor Car right there... [Get in the fuckin car, Trever!]

Woman: I'm gonna call the cops!

Ricky: You don't have to call the cops, I'm a Doctor! El_C 08:23, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Well, as Boo Radley had virtually no dialogue, it would be hard to add quotes from him. KillerChihuahua^?!? 08:58, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

I vaguely remember reading it, like 15 yrs ago and in Hebrew. Dosen't ring a bell. I probably thought it was Bo at the time, anyway. El_C 11:19, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Are you sure you don't mean Bo? snicker KillerChihuahua^?!? 11:34, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

YASE! Possibly Boss Hogg, though! El_C 12:26, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

A better Bo. KillerChihuahua^?!? 12:47, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

It was better than saying "Arthur" and then "Radley." Boo Radley seems to have changed his name to Major Kilgore and gone on to command a contingent of air cavalry in Vietnam. Geogre 12:51, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Geogre, I'm appalled! We were speaking of the book, a classic piece of literature, not some (admittedly great) actor's debut on the Big Screen. KillerChihuahua^?!? 13:09, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

I thought the author of that book was really hot. I loved her in Living In Oblivion, too, where she has a nude scene! I'm not sure, though, why Cousin Percy went on to menace Tom Curse in MI III. I understand that he got tired of being picked on, but he still shouldn't have tried to blow up Tom's wife. Geogre 15:33, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Heja, Bish, did you not get the e-mail, or are you not present? Geogre 15:36, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Hej å hå

I've been out (talking with my American cousin). I was very happy to get the e-mail where you fail to keep a secret. But hey, I thought I was supposed to keep it to myself. Bishonen | talk 15:47, 7 June 2006 (UTC).

Block review

Hi, Bish! That was a lovely message you sent to Slim.[5] I've blocked you for two weeks ;-) as a result, having looked at the block log. See here. Feel free to review the length of the block, as you probably know something about the background. I don't. Cheers. AnnH ♫ 08:46, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, Ann, I should be ashamed of myself. I reckon I would benefit from a bit more than two weeks and also better information on my userpage--don't know why I didn't put it there earlier. The curse of laziness. Bishonen | talk 09:36, 7 June 2006 (UTC).

Laziness, sheer laziness, that's all it is. Maybe if we'd posted one of those {{subst:smile}}s on her page... Then again, perhaps not. *innocent* KillerChihuahua^?!? 09:44, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

P. S. The user in question is indefinitely banned for exhausting the community's patience. The background is here. Bishonen | talk 16:13, 7 June 2006 (UTC).

Yah, was aware of that. Bunch and I were comparing insults received and she got herself indef'd before I could catch up. Bunch won. KillerChihuahua^?!? 16:16, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Oh, mama knows, puppy. That info was for Ann. Bishonen | talk 16:20, 7 June 2006 (UTC).

Oh heh, slow today (me). Ann, if you're really interested see this diff and my personal favorite, this one. There is so very much more, just view contribs. KillerChihuahua^?!? 16:42, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Recently-blocked Metrocat (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log) was almost certainly her, by the way. —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 16:47, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Metrocat, as in Merecat? Do these people want to be caught? KillerChihuahua^?!? 16:55, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

No, but they want to be *recognized* and it's hard to separate the two. —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 16:59, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

I've looked at the links — they're charming! Hmmm, what kind of an admin am I that I missed all that when it was happening? AnnH ♫ 17:07, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

(reduce) I don't know, perhaps you were off editing or some silly thing like that? ;) KillerChihuahua^?!? 17:20, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Can you have a look at 208.65.61.27 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)? Signed Maggie Thewolfstar, but the two IPs don't seem to have any connection. I'm not good at looking up IPs, but it seems that one is in Germany and the other is in Canada. Feel free to legthen, shorten, or undo the block. AnnH ♫ 09:21, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

Well, it seems to me that it doesn't matter who's posting; anybody who signs as TWS has a right to be blocked as if they were TWS. Either they're a community-banned user or they're trying to be taken for one, what's the difference? I think I've even seen a bit of policy somewhere, to the effect that such trolling needs a good hefty block. The only question is whether a week will incur collateral damage, and these things--whether the IP is static or dynamic--are a closed book to me. Could you please ask aboout that on ANI? I'm just going out, sorry. Bishonen | talk 11:43, 10 June 2006 (UTC).

Done. See here. AnnH ♫ 23:05, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

Plano Senior High School FAC

Just wanted to let you know that I have started up Plano's long awaited FAC here. I really appreciate all of the help that you have given me copyediting and proofing the article (and removing my American bias). I hope you will support and help me fight off the objects! — Scm83x ^{hook 'em} 08:54, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Hollow

I for one would be more than willing to support a community ban, or any other type of ban. Keep me informed and if you decide to go that route, you have my full fledged support. HeyNow10029 16:24, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

I wonder, do you really think it will be necessary to go that far? - It seems to me to be rather like a tyre that's running out of air, one knows it's going to burst just when and where is the question. More interestingly who is that common looking man above Image:Boss Hogg.jpg no one wears a white bow-tie before during daylight hours and never a signet ring on the right hand little finger - I'm sure it's not Aloan, (where is ALoan these days?) and it cannot be Geogre (he's far to too sophisticated and debonair) so who is it..........BoG stop slinking off - do you have something to tell us? Somehow I always thought you were younger. Giano | talk 20:40, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

I think you're dismissing Geogre a little prematurely: he's in the right part of the country —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 20:56, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

No, no Geogre lives in the land of the golden marigold, or some such part, (one really can't keep track of all the provincial districts of that bare continent of yours) - well if you are sure it's not you BoG (and I stll have my suspicions) perhaps that outfit is some form of Swedish national costume - I think we should be told...I think ElC is Swedish Giano | talk 21:02, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Makes sense... Sweden is known for cheese, right? Elsie the cow. Elsie the goatherd? Possibly. KillerChihuahua^?!? 21:15, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Sweden is so not known for cheese :-) —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 21:16, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Don't confuse me with details, Grapes and Cheese person. We're on a roll here. KillerChihuahua^?!? 21:25, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Hot dog! No wait, that would be a dachshund. FreplySpang 21:27, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Elsie -> El C! Makes sense. As for Boss Hog, everyone remembers that song. I'm in the land of the gentrified corn grits. Interestingly, it's a place that had no southern aristocracy. Now, all the towns nearby, which have those old, distinguished families, have been erased, and this place, which was entirely too grubby back then, is triumphant. Geogre 21:18, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Is there barbecue too? looking for lunch in all the wrong places 21:26, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Oh, they smoke the barbeque. It's how they get that way. Geogre 02:09, 9 June 2006 (UTC) (Missing the bar-b-q and Elvis genes.)

Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Sam Spade

This arbitration case is closed and the final decision is published at the link above.

For the Arbitration Committee. --Tony Sidaway 21:29, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

What else can he also be called

Most species with black and white fur have special traits.

(Whit Gibbons, "Not all answers are Black & White," Econoview, April 29, 2001)

Try to expand this encyclopedic list. There's only one rule, it has to be a black & white, or he can't be called that due to fur. Kitty, you're a... 1897 photo from the Andrée expedition which was retrieved from a glacier in 1930.[?] [Don't "?" me; you'll just have to read the article, won't you?]

1. Panda
2. Penguin
3. Puffin
4. Black-and-white Ruffed Lemur
5. Baird's Tapir
6. Orca
7. Badger
8. Moo-moo cow
9. Black-and-white colobus monkey
10. Black-and-white Warbler
11. Okapi
12. Indri
13. Slow loris
14. Siberian Husky
15. Canadian goose
16. Black-footed Ferret
17. Raccoon
18. Skunk
19. Antilope
20. Zebra
21. Siberian Chipmunk
22. East African Oryx
23. White-eared Bulbul
24. Toco Toucan
25. Dalmatian
26. Abyssinian Guinea Pig
27. Numbat
28. Petaurus
29. Southern Tamandua
30. Spiny rat
31. Brush-tailed porcupine
32. Pale-throated Three-toed Sloth
33. Sugar Glider
El_C 12:43, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

34. Newspaper. Geogre 13:37, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

Struck out, a newspaper is not alive! El_C 23:11, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

You said there was only one rule. There seems to be another. —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 23:13, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

34. Asian Longhorned Beetle —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 23:17, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

Fine! 35. Nun Geogre 23:18, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

36. Minute pirate bug. —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 23:19, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

37. Black Rat Snake - KillerChihuahua^?!? 23:20, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

Now that's what I'm talking about! If we reach 100, the universe may collapse onto itself. So let's do that! El_C 23:29, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

38. Sclater's Guenon are you sure we can't just stop at 50? This is getting to be a challenge. KillerChihuahua^?!? 23:53, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
39. Piebald RossPatterson 02:29, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
40. Black-veined White (What's not to love about that name?)
41. Small White
42. Large White
43. Zebra Swallowtail Butterfly —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 02:38, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

44. Absolute truth.
45. Oreo. (Oreos are the stuff of life.) Geogre 03:41, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
46. Relativity (M. C. Escher) Bishonen | talk 05:47, 10 June 2006 (UTC).
47. A Polar Bear smoking a licorice pipe (Hello, Kitty!) Bishonen | talk 06:01, 10 June 2006 (UTC).

Hello! Kitty 07:09, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

48. Magpie Bishonen | talk 10:54, 10 June 2006 (UTC).

49. Mormon missionary Geogre 11:37, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

50. Referee who makes a mistaken foul call in the Sweden/Trinidad & Tobago match. Geogre 16:50, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
51. Duck tape - light on one side, dark on the other, it holds the universe together. RossPatterson 20:48, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
52. Tiddlywinks. Geogre 02:01, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
53. Jake
54. Elwood. ++Lar: t/c 12:54, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Speech

[Test, test] Who in this park, or even who in the whole world, dosen't have problems? Who dosen't have a drink too many times once in a while, and even windes up passing out in their own driveway, pissing themsleves? Heuh? I mean, seriously. Or who dosen't have a little pot from time to time? Or who dosen't have problems with the people they love? Randy. Everybody. Now, I apologize for my neglect of the things that are most important to me. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Because this park, it's the most important thing in my life and it always will be, and so are all of you. Because this is our home; this is our community! I am Jim Lahey, and I am your trailer park supervisor. Thanks, for coming, Randy, everybody. El_C 03:42, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

PEPP

I got the PEPP. See Areopagus (poetry), sole reference for what I mean. Or, since I know you've been wondering since we spoke, you can see Anacoluthon, which Wikipedia had a (bad, inaccurate, novels-only) article on before. Geogre 13:38, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

Of course I have. Cool stub! Any expansion planned? Bishonen | talk 14:38, 9 June 2006 (UTC).

Umm, which one? I could expand the Areopagus by discussing the particular prosodic innovations of the group, but, because it's one of those critical retrospect terms rather than an actual, demonstrable movement, I feel a bit funny doing so. However, I clicked on one of the poet members I'd never heard of before -- complete 1911 dump, of course -- and it was quite sure that there was a 'movement' (but the 1911 was sure of everything). I think PEPP is a bit more cautious. Geogre 15:48, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

I found, for example, that the dude Spenser wrote to got really ticked off when Spenser beat him to creating the hexameter. He wanted to be The guy who invented it, and he got all huffy that Spenser got credit. :-) Geogre 15:54, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

I was thinking Areopagus (poetry), but I've had a better idea: expand Fourteener to a Featured article. Bishonen | talk 18:26, 9 June 2006 (UTC).

Holy smokes, that's bad. Why would someone write an "article" like that. "A fourteener is a kind of poem." I suppose it's not really that bad, but there is much more to say (Spenser, e.g.). Ok, I'll look into that one. No FA in the future, though, or at least not by my efforts. Geogre 20:10, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

You may incidentally fall down and worship, and the rest of the rabble too, for I am the only person who has the right connections to make an ArbCom case viable. Beware of annoying popular wiki-personality! Gracious acknowledgements to User:KillerChihuahua for drawing Our attention to these accolades. Bishonen | talk 10:57, 10 June 2006 (UTC).

We also serve who merely read and type. KillerChihuahua^?!? 01:40, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

Speak for yourself. I'm more served than serving. Just ask my solicitors. Geogre 02:04, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

It's the usual mix, alright. What is interesting, at least to me, is, of course, me. I note that we are the connected to in such a description. It reminds me of E. M. Forster's epigram to Howard's End: "Only connect." (Yes, there is a darker subtext to the "connections" comment. What's implied, among other things, is what I had alledged, and what you had alledged -- that most of those doing battle with SS were wiki-young who didn't know the rules or methods of the project, that most experienced (read "connected") folks simply ran a long distance from an SS-owned article. There was a sanitary cordon around SS, or, for American college football fans, a 'halo'.) Geogre 11:36, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

Similar to the "ring" noticed around Penicillium on a petri dish. KillerChihuahua^?!? 17:46, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

Italia victorious

Repubblica Italiana. I thought you may like to have one of these to wave for the duration of the world cup. That you too may then share in the ultimate glorious victory that will be ours

That little "piece of work" was left by an anon. Grimace, Insertions Apparently Need Oversight... I have no idea who it was, though I have my guesses. Gee, I Am Not Obscure. ++t/c 15:06, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

Odd that you mention that. The history on my page says that someone named Gino left one on my page. I knew lots of guys named Gino in da Branx, and a few girls named Gina, so I figured it was one of them. Geogre 15:38, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

Had I not broken my ankle at a young age it is likely it would be me receiving your applause an admirations Captain of Italia - so please do not mock - you will feel very stupid ultimatly. This evening in Hanover (8.00 pm GMT most radio stations) Italia will score the first glorious victory of its untoppable route to the cup. Giano | talk 08:13, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

PS: Was it 1994 (twelve years ago - or longer?) that Sweden last acheived a possition in the knockout. I forget what that placing exactly was - perhaps you could remind us Lar?. Warmest regards Giano | talk 08:19, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

OK, a few things, first mea culpa for not actually bothering to check the history to see who left the calling card, er flag, and just assuming it was a regular contributor here, and jumping to the obvious identification. My bad. Second, your bragadaccio is noted, Giano, it's part of your "charm" to be so boastfully overblown. Captain of the waterboys would be more likely, in my view... Third, I have no idea about Sweden's performance in the World Cup, I barely even am aware of how the US, my home country, does (other than to characterise it as generally badly but roughly trending upwards?? I think??), as my primary interest is in witty repartee rather than sports, but someone who cared more could certainly look it up if so desired. Perhaps the relevance of Sweden could be explained, though? Were you jumping to conclusions too? (now THAT would be an interesting olympic sport!) I do wish Italia all the best though. ++Lar: t/c 12:05, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

• Primary interest witty repartèe (note the accent!)? What on earth are you called Lars for if you're not Swedish, let me just tell you Swedes are called Lars, Americans are called Hank, Marvin or Junior or if they are very unfortunate "George W". Does BoG (who is from Idaho) call himself Juan, Alberto or Bederich? - No he does not! So Please resprect your national naming conventions. Giano | talk 13:26, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

• Silly Italian comedian, it's "Lar" not "Lars"... short for Larry, which is a very American name (although I admit my last name of Pieniazek is more Polish than anything else). I KNOW I'm American since I had a cheerleader living with me this school year. Let's see you top THAT bit of misdirection. Oh, and finally I would hasten to point out that well developed muscles are a very useful thing for a woman to have. Not something you'd know though, I guess... ++Lar: t/c 21:18, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

You can't be called just Larry, surely it's Lorenzo Giano | talk 21:43, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Well, I WOULD be if I was Italian, or Sicilian (my wife is 3/8 Sicilian and 1/8 non Sicilian Italian) but I'm Polish-German so no, it's just Lawrence. Nice dodge of the other parts of my remarks, by the way... ++Lar: t/c 21:53, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

You know, before I hurt my knee, I was an excellent dancer. I'll bet Giano is just upset that there isn't a Sicily team. (We'll see how the Women's World Cup goes, eh? Taking bets now.) (Even without Mia, we're going to kick tail.) (Lar, we're ugly Americans so much of the time in world sports (how embarassed are you when yahoo crowds begin chanting "USA! USA!" -- I know I cringe? We can certainly afford to be appropriately taunted. On behalf of our nation, we've got it coming.) Geogre 12:15, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Speak for yourself Geogre... I'm not an ugly American, I'm actually rather dashing and suave. Ok, maybe not actually suave, or all that dashing either, but compared to Giano we're not talking a very high bar are we? ++Lar: t/c 21:53, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

• Well...you did invent those fresh faced girls with nice hair, odd outfits (not Armani) and toothpaste advert smiles who wave their poms poms and other bits about while shouting and singing little ditties, which must be enormously encouraging. In the meantime Forza Italia. Giano | talk 13:26, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Indeed, we did invent them, and we even convinced young women to compete for the priviledge of becoming cheerleaders! However, we'll see how the Italian women's team measures up against the Americans, eh? Care to lay a little wager? Geogre 15:16, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Glad I didn't take Giano's bait and try to hoot-hoot for the American side. (2-0 Czechs at this point.) Geogre 17:50, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

• Only a fool ever rises to my bait Geogre! I'm sure the American "Ladies" will do very well indeed. However, we (how can I delicatly put this?) in the cradle of civilization prefer our women less well developed in the muscular department! - all that leaping about waving their thingies shouting "oggie oggie troggie" or whatever it is they shout - develops very nasty thighs! Talking of petite, delicatly formed and feminine women, where is our beauteous hostess? - surely not out on the terraces screaming for Sweden Giano | talk 18:42, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

PS: It starts in 12 minutes, have we all - been to the loo?, got our flags ready? beers in hand, right off we go - Forza Italia (I'll be back with the score later) Giano | talk 18:51, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Me? Er, this is about watching... basketball, was it? Sure, sure, in a minute. Bishonen | talk 19:35, 12 June 2006 (UTC).

Italia 2 : Ghana 0

Oh just think Bishonen you can hold a world cup party just like the Beckhams did!!! Giano | talk 20:59, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

I know! Giano can maybe add a score ticker to the In The News section of the main page... that should go over well. (snort!) ++Lar: t/c 21:53, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Jehovah's Witnesses

I wish you hadn't unprotected the page, it needs to be permanenty protected from anonymous editors. Hang out for a while, you'll see.George 22:55, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

Protection, even semi-protection, is never permanent.--Sean Black 23:07, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

Right. Replied on George m's page. Bishonen | talk 23:10, 10 June 2006 (UTC).

I see that now. But, when did you expect me to do my research before commenting? :)--Sean Black 23:15, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

Or to hop in your time machine? Check out the timestamps: there was nothing to research. :-) Bishonen | talk 23:17, 10 June 2006 (UTC).

Yes, I was just whining. Sorry if I wasted your time.:p)George 00:01, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

It's so confusing with these people who misspell Geogre. Geogre 02:02, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

Any pack of rouge admins worth its salt would block the imposter account. —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 03:56, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

Which one? ++Lar: t/c 04:07, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

I'll be hornswoggled; we have to block Geogre! George was here a month before him, September 2003 to Geogre's November. Sorry, Geogre, but you understand the rules are the rules. —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 04:14, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

Hey, I am the original me. Trust me, no one would want to imitate me, and, if I'm imitating anyone else, I'm doing a cruddy job of it. I was an IP editor for months before I had an account (afraid of being spammed). We'll have to see how long the IP contributions go. Geogre 12:22, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

This sort of wikilawyering isn't going to get you out of it! The important moment in time for impersonation purposes is when you created the account, of course, not when you started editing as an IP. —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 15:55, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

I'm an Admin! I am untouchable! I note that the cabal of anti-me editors you have constructed all have "C's" in their account names! Geogre 18:57, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

George was right; I'm getting tired of rolling back. I won't re-protect yet, but please reconsider. --Spangineer^[es] (háblame) 05:39, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

We should just force Geogre to change his name to Geogre, not George m. What's fair is faire. cccccccccccccccccccccccccc El_C 08:27, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Possibly un/related: Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard#User:C-c-c-c. El_C 09:09, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

I am a member of the Cabal! I cannot be defrocked!.... Wait. There's a "c" in "Cabal," but there is a "c" in "cannot." That's the third letter. That's March. March 3. We who know, know, you know. Geogre 12:11, 12 June 2006 (UTC) (Classic Geogre)

Unprotected Jehovah's Witnesses

Thanks for unprotecting it. It was only a day's worth of vandalism, but I think it flew under the radar that it was supposed to get unprotected. joshbuddy^talk 04:22, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

On my unprotecting Jehovah's Witnesses

Opinions on my unprotecting the article seem to vary quite drastically, above. Having reviewed the recent History, I have to say that the situation we're in with regard to AOL anons — who are basically unblockable — is more than a little absurd. There seems to be a bit of a break right now, but if another spate of hair-raisingly POV AOL edits starts up, I invite any admin to semiprotect again. If I'm around, I'll do it myself. Bishonen | talk 17:51, 11 June 2006 (UTC).

Joey 6070's incredibly large penis.

Hello! This diff and this block gave me a good chuckle. I award you (your second) comedy gold prize! You should do stand-up. -- getcrunkjuice^contribs 02:05, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

Heh! My favourite kind of award! :-) Thanks, Crunkster! Bishonen | talk 02:19, 13 June 2006 (UTC).

No problem, your majesty! -- getcrunkjuice 23:03, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

More reasons to marry

William Duncombe presents an interesting rationale. I've watchlisted the most current controversy, BTW. I also did David Durand today, but it's so slight as to have been hardly worth the bother. The thing about Duncombe, though, is that his son married Susanna Highmore's daughter, and the daughter was a poet like the mother. Unlike the mother, though, she published more than two poems. (Why the DNB had an article on the mother, I don't know. Why I bothered to take notes on it and make an article here, I'm still wondering. "Woman poet 18th century" was about the only thing I could come up with in either case.) Geogre 03:22, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

Tried to comment three times now, but various people are blocking the entire AOL range, and getting the refresh to dump the cache is nearly impossible. Geogre 00:00, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

I have a Question

Errr...yeah. How do I list the references in different areas but make it so that it doesn't show up as there being 15 references when there are only 4? Kschwerdt514 04:45, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

Hmmm... yep. If you simply use the <ref></ref>tags, as you've done, you'll get a new footnote every time. To only list each reference once, copy the way the notes are done in Simon Byrne. Take a look at note 1, and see how the abcde business works when you click between the note numerals in the text and the reference at the bottom. Then open the article in edit mode and see how these notes are coded in the text. You see how the first of them (a) has the complete information, while the others (bcde) only have the "name"? The name for footnote 1 is "Svinth". To use this system, you need to invent a unique name for each of your 4 footnote numbers. (The a's and b's will be added automatically, don't write them anywhere.) Hope this helps. It's the most usual system, so it's the way to do it if you want to join the majority. (It's not the system I like or use myself, as it happens; I prefer to have the footnote numbers nicely ordered in the text and avoid the abcde mess, by making one footnote section plus one separate references section at the bottom, as in S. A. Andree's Arctic balloon expedition of 1897. But I'm in a minority.) Bishonen | talk 05:43, 14 June 2006 (UTC).

Near death expedience, again

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But unlike last month, I am virtually unscathed. Too dangerous. Therefore, here is a new picture of kitty. Now you may comfort me. Alively yours, El_C 10:00, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

OMG, it's Ceiling Cat, scary! Take care of yourself and watch the tulips! Bishonen | talk 10:10, 14 June 2006 (UTC).

Tulips, is there anything they can't do? But he's not actually ceilinging (nor was I mustarbating —at that that exact nanosecond in which photons were emitted from the flash!), he's actually looking up towards door knob, whilst in "wanting to got outside" mode. I just flipped the immage for optical special FX illusioninging! El_C 11:25, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

Do you know what Image:OpticalIllusion is? El_C 11:28, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

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Reply to Charlemagne

Yeah you're right - I just felt it'd be a good featured article since it was fairly detailed. My bad - NicAgent 17:44, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

How do you do it?

It seems that my talk page always opens with you saying "hi". I kind of like it, really. —Theo (Talk) 20:14, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

Bish, much like Raul654, sees all. Bishonen | talk 20:30, 14 June 2006 (UTC).

There is simply no more escaping the ceiling cat, is there? —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 20:42, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

"AOL sux0r, so lets blox the hole thing!"

You might want to check out the "Contacting ISPS" (sic) header on wp:an/i. One of those "I don't care what our guidelines say, I wanna block a whole ISP" rampages is going on. Geogre 02:35, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

Hello there

I've just replied to your mail, if you do copy-edit that for me, there is still along way to go, and I'll probably change quite a bit and then condense it down, there is quite a bit or repetition too - what do you think of the fotos? - not bad for some-one who just points the thing and presses the button are they? I found the house looking for BoG's Barton in the Beans (Fuck knows where that is, I couldn't find it!) I think it may be close by, it's the same motorway exit anyway - BoG will have to come over and find it himself! Love Giano | talk 10:31, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

Can't copyedit right now, sorry, I'm just going out myself. Even the photos will have to keep. I can take a look later today if you tell me when. Did you even find the beans themselves? Bishonen | talk 10:43, 15 June 2006 (UTC).

No found Belton and was sidetracked. Giano | talk 12:20, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Violent_crime_and_suicide_at_Ivy_League_universities

Hey Bishonen, I was wondering if you could close this AfD for me. It's been up for eight days now; I'm not sure why it hasn't gotten shut. I got ahead of myself and deleted it earlier, but immediately thought better of it, as I was the nominator of the AfD and would prefer to do this by the book. Could you take a look and make a call on it? Thanks, JDoorjam Talk 05:23, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

Sorry for slowness and sloth in replying. That's a good discussion, lots of pertinent commentary. I'd have no problem with making the call (it's a "delete" in my book) , but I can't seem to get my head round the technicalities. I've closed very few AfD's, and I always forget how, in between. I hope you don't mind if I ask somebody who could do it in his sleep (=Geogre)? Bishonen | talk 11:10, 16 June 2006 (UTC).

Hey, Bishie!

Thanks for the heads-up. My reply is here. - Corbin ^{Be excellent} 05:39, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

Re: rollback

Yeah, I thought twice before rolling back. I missed your comment to Kimchi.sg though... I kinda figured that if Tijuana really wanted to keep them, he'll roll back my edit himself. -→Buchanan-Hermit™/?! 09:14, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

Featured article candidates/Antarctica

Thanks for pointing out. I did not realize it's archived; someone made an edit today, so when I looked at the page it occured to me to add a thought to my own comment there. Apcbg 09:34, 16 June 2006 (UTC)