Talk:Yisrael Kristal

Auschwitz Survivor

If he is a true Auschwitz survivor he would have a numbered tattoo on his body for Nazi Germany identification purposes. The Nazis numbered every Jew who came into Auschwitz at the time he claims to have been at the camp.The Nazis would also have kept records on him while he was at the camp . That would include his birthday and place he was from. If he has no tattoo then his claim is false. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.102.140.9 (talk) 12:55, 17 February 2016‎ (UTC)

that is not true. Almost all inmates had tattoos but not everybody - especially if they were on work squads. He was only there for 2 months as far as I am aware.

Mikkitobi (talk) 19:18, 12 March 2016 (UTC)

Recognition of those responsible for locating the documents accepted as proof by Guinness World Records

I would like to know why Rms125a@hotmail.com insists on removing my edits where I add the names of those responsible for this successful outcome.

I admit I am one of those individuals and I and Stanley Diamond spent considerable time and effort working on this issue. Both of us appear in the background papers of proof of both the Gerontology Group and Guinness World Records.

Eventually Rms125a@hotmail.com stopped removing my edits and I thought we had finally come to an agreement but I then made the 'mistake' of undoing another change he had made where he changed the reference to Jewish Records Indexing - Poland to Jewish Records Indexing-Poland. Not major I know but it was WRONG to remove the spaces around the dash. He clearly did not like being corrected by me and he then removed the other edits I had made.

This strikes me as being a very personal attack - why else would he have left my edit and only remove it when I changed something he had done?

I would like to add back in the FACTS of this case. Without the work done by Stanley Diamond and myself this case would never have been confirmed - or only at a much later date (and perhaps too late).

Mikkitobi (talk) 19:34, 12 March 2016 (UTC)

Calling User:Rms125a@hotmail.com's undoing of your edits a personal attack is unwarranted. In fact, I would call that statement a personal attack on him or her. Please comment on the edits rather than the editor.

Rms undid your addition of names off individuals with Jewish Records Indexing-Poland who were involved in the discovery. The cited references confirm that those individuals (the Executive Director and the Database Manager) were involved. So, all that needs to be decided is whether or not these two individuals' names need to be included in the article. I don't think so. As one of the sources points out, genealogists all over the world contributed to the effort to find supporting documents. Meters (talk) 20:48, 12 March 2016 (UTC)

I am sorry for calling it an attack but as I stated above Rms finally left my changes untouched and only removed them after I reverted an error he/she made in the formatting of the name of the organisation. Such behaviour is not logical and was not based on the content I had added to the article. You might not want to call it an 'attack' but it surely was not logical.

Genealogists all over the world have been researching Israel Kristal for several years and could not find sufficient evidence. I suggest you contact Guinness World Records or the Gerontology Group to see what the critical documents were. As the article points out Guinness require an 'early-life' document where the person is under 20 years old. There is only ONE such document discovered so far. I LOCATED IT and we sent it to the Gerontology Group. We also sent other mid-life evidence THAT HAD NEVER BEEN SEEN BEFORE that we located in various archives in Poland. Without that 1 early-life document Guinness World Records would not have confirmed Israel as the oldest living man - no-matter how many researchers around the world had been working for how many years.

Mikkitobi (talk) 21:25, 12 March 2016 (UTC)