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== Warning #1 Edit warring on [[Somalia]] ==
== Warning #1 Edit warring on [[Somalia]] ==


[[File:Stop hand nuvola.svg|30px|left|alt=Stop icon]] Your recent editing history at [[:Somalia]] shows that you are currently engaged in an [[Wikipedia:Edit warring|edit war]]; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the [[Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines|talk page]] to work toward making a version that represents [[Wikipedia:Consensus|consensus]] among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See [[Wikipedia:BOLD, revert, discuss cycle|the bold, revert, discuss cycle]] for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant [[Wikipedia:Noticeboards|noticeboard]] or seek [[Wikipedia:Dispute resolution|dispute resolution]]. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary [[Wikipedia:Protection policy|page protection]].
[[File:Stop hand nuvola.svg|30px|left|alt=Stop icon]] <s>Your recent editing history at [[:Somalia]] shows that you are currently engaged in an [[Wikipedia:Edit warring|edit war]]; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the [[Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines|talk page]] to work toward making a version that represents [[Wikipedia:Consensus|consensus]] among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See [[Wikipedia:BOLD, revert, discuss cycle|the bold, revert, discuss cycle]] for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant [[Wikipedia:Noticeboards|noticeboard]] or seek [[Wikipedia:Dispute resolution|dispute resolution]]. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary [[Wikipedia:Protection policy|page protection]].


'''Being involved in an edit war can result in you being [[Wikipedia:Blocking policy|blocked from editing]]'''&mdash;especially if you violate the [[Wikipedia:Edit warring#The three-revert rule|three-revert rule]], which states that an editor must not perform more than three [[Help:Reverting|reverts]] on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring&mdash;'''even if you don't violate the three-revert rule'''&mdash;should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly.<!-- Template:uw-3rr -->.
'''Being involved in an edit war can result in you being [[Wikipedia:Blocking policy|blocked from editing]]'''&mdash;especially if you violate the [[Wikipedia:Edit warring#The three-revert rule|three-revert rule]], which states that an editor must not perform more than three [[Help:Reverting|reverts]] on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring&mdash;'''even if you don't violate the three-revert rule'''&mdash;should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly.</s><!-- Template:uw-3rr -->.


The map marks claims of both Somaliland and Somalia. This is clearly helpful to Wikipedia readership. Furthermore usage is inline with similar cases of dispute e.g. [[India]], [[Pakistan]], [[Morocco]], [[China]]..etc etc. Please be reasonable. Regards [[User:Kzl55|Kzl55]] ([[User talk:Kzl55|talk]]) 13:28, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
The map marks claims of both Somaliland and Somalia. This is clearly helpful to Wikipedia readership. Furthermore usage is inline with similar cases of dispute e.g. [[India]], [[Pakistan]], [[Morocco]], [[China]]..etc etc. Please be reasonable. Regards [[User:Kzl55|Kzl55]] ([[User talk:Kzl55|talk]]) 13:28, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
:Please also note that the issue was discussed on the [[Talk:Somalia/Archive_7#Map|article's talk page already]], where majority of editors agreed map was appropriate and helpful to WP readership, (EELagoon who opposed was another blocked sock of disruptive editor Middayexpress). Hope that ends it, you've been a longstanding editor on Wikipedia, going back and forth on edit wars is not the way. I take back the edit warring warning too, lets be reasonable please. Regards [[User:Kzl55|Kzl55]] ([[User talk:Kzl55|talk]]) 13:44, 9 July 2019 (UTC)

Revision as of 13:44, 9 July 2019

I need sources for what you wrote in the Saho atricle. "The Saho can be traced back to 500 BC, inhabiting their current area" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:4DD3:A00C:0:19BE:E7E:425B:41BB (talk) 22:01, 29 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject Africa

Hi Wadaad,

I saw your work on articles related to Africa and wanted to say hello, as I work in the topic area too. If you haven't already, you might want to watch the WikiProject Africa talk page, which is a noticeboard for Wikipedia's Africa coverage. It's a great place to ask questions, collaborate, discuss style/structure precedent, and stay informed about Africa-related content. Take a look for yourself!

And if you're looking for other juicy places to edit, consider adopting a cleanup category or participating in one of our current formal discussions.

Feel free to say hi on my talk page and let me know if these links were helpful (or at least interesting). Hope to see you around. czar 23:21, 11 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

A page you started (Haplogroup E-M329) has been reviewed!

Thanks for creating Haplogroup E-M329, Wadaad!

Wikipedia editor Cwmhiraeth just reviewed your page, and wrote this note for you:

While reviewing this article, I have added an opening sentence to provide context. You had better check my addition.

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Cwmhiraeth (talk) 10:47, 9 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Please show me where the source you are reinstating backs the text

The text lists related groups as: Agaw | Afar | Amhara | Beja | Beta Israel | Gurage | Harari | Oromo | Saho | Somali | Tigre | Tigrinyas | other Cushitic peoples. The source is "Institutional Change in the Horn of Africa: The Allocation of Property Rights and Implications for Development". Where does it explicitly back this list? You have to have read it to keep reinstating it despite my saying it doesn't back the text. Doug Weller talk 05:50, 12 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The main ethnic groups of the Horn of Africa (Ethiosemites and Cushites) are related. This is both common sense and stated in the text.Wadaad (talk) 07:04, 12 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
That's not a response to my question. I asked about the source. Please quote the relevant part of the source. See WP:VERIFY. Commonsense doesn't meet our policy in this case.
Look up the text. Page 1 says Horn African populations are related. Stop being suck a knucklehead. Wadaad (talk) 15:48, 12 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Careful, see assume good faith and no personal attacks. I'd take it to the reliable sources noticeboard except another editor agrees with me and has removed it, replacing it with another source. Doug Weller talk 12:21, 14 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Discretionary sanctions alerts for articles and content relating to biographies of living or recently diseased people

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You have recently shown interest in living or recently deceased people, and edits relating to the subject (living or recently deceased) of such biographical articles. Due to past disruption in this topic area, a more stringent set of rules called discretionary sanctions is in effect: any administrator may impose sanctions on editors who do not strictly follow Wikipedia's policies, or any page-specific restrictions, when making edits related to the topic.

For additional information, please see the guidance on discretionary sanctions and the Arbitration Committee's decision here. If you have any questions, or any doubts regarding what edits are appropriate, you are welcome to discuss them with me or any other editor.

Template:Z33 Doug Weller talk 08:18, 4 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Copying within Wikipedia requires attribution

Information icon Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. It appears that you copied or moved text from one or more pages into Haplogroup E-V12. While you are welcome to re-use Wikipedia's content, here or elsewhere, Wikipedia's licensing does require that you provide attribution to the original contributor(s). When copying within Wikipedia, this is supplied at minimum in an edit summary at the page into which you've copied content, disclosing the copying and linking to the copied page, e.g., copied content from [[page name]]; see that page's history for attribution. It is good practice, especially if copying is extensive, to also place a properly formatted {{copied}} template on the talk pages of the source and destination. The attribution has been provided for this situation, but if you have copied material between pages before, even if it was a long time ago, please provide attribution for that duplication. You can read more about the procedure and the reasons at Wikipedia:Copying within Wikipedia. Thank you. If you are the sole author of the prose that was copied, attribution is not required. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 14:20, 9 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding the Meroitic language

On an entirely different note; I’ve been wondering if I should include the fact that the Meroitic Language is unclassified or even in some cases regarded as a Nilo-Saharan language to underline the discontinuity between earlier Nubian civilizations. I feel like it’s history-robbing if not made clear but I can’t find an apt place to put it. Do you feel like there’s a moral or Wikipedian obligation to do so? MusIbr (talk) 11:40, 3 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker) @MusIbr: Discontinuities are always important to note. I see too many claims for historicity/continuity that are simply impossible to prove or indeed where the archaeological record contradicts them. Ethnic nationalism is sometimes the reason. You'll need academic sources of course. Doug Weller talk 13:39, 3 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Doug Weller: “I see too many claims for historicity/continuity that are simply impossible to prove or indeed where the archeological record constradicts them.” Do you mean on the Cushitic peoples page? Or just generally as an admin? I thought I’d been relatively fair and balanced but I would be interested to hear where I went wrong considering there might be some bias I’m missing. I’ll make sure to add in the parts about the Meroitic language. MusIbr (talk) 18:34, 3 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Consensus

You are being disruptive at Ashkenazi Jews. Please review the WP:CONSENSUS policy, and abide by it. Debresser (talk) 22:46, 10 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Ancient Somali Migration Path

Hello! I know we got off on the wrong foot when we first meet, but I’d like to see us get pass it. However, if you wish not to then let it be so. Anyways, what are your thoughts on the possible migration path of Somalis? AcidSnow (talk) 00:31, 11 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@AcidSnow, I believe they are from Northeastern Sudan (roughly present-day Beja territory) and subsequently entered the Horn of Africa via Eritrea and the Danakil lowlands. This is supported by uniparental, TMRCA, and autosomal analysis. Wadaad (talk) 07:27, 11 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
This migration also makes the most sense given what we already know about Somali history through oral, archeology, and historical documents. However, many linguists support a south to north migration. What are your thoughts on that? In addition, thank you for your response and how your message was clear and to the point. AcidSnow (talk) 23:42, 11 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@AcidSnow, well, it is still possible that Somalis originally entered the Horn of Africa via the Red Sea route, but then (after a few hundred years) coalesced and spread out from around the more fertile Southern region of Somalia. Nevertheless, this group would still be ethnically/genetically similar to the Northern Red Sea Route proto-Somalis.Wadaad (talk) 09:35, 12 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Warning #1 Edit warring on Somalia

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Your recent editing history at Somalia shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See the bold, revert, discuss cycle for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

Being involved in an edit war can result in you being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly..

The map marks claims of both Somaliland and Somalia. This is clearly helpful to Wikipedia readership. Furthermore usage is inline with similar cases of dispute e.g. India, Pakistan, Morocco, China..etc etc. Please be reasonable. Regards Kzl55 (talk) 13:28, 9 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Please also note that the issue was discussed on the article's talk page already, where majority of editors agreed map was appropriate and helpful to WP readership, (EELagoon who opposed was another blocked sock of disruptive editor Middayexpress). Hope that ends it, you've been a longstanding editor on Wikipedia, going back and forth on edit wars is not the way. I take back the edit warring warning too, lets be reasonable please. Regards Kzl55 (talk) 13:44, 9 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]