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John Templar, I do not know you however I AM a templar. Knighted son of a templar, of a templar, of a templar that has a traced Templar lineage back to the 14th century. on top of that I have family stories going back much further. When I come here and read these kind of things it makes me chuckle because people have it so wrong. The people that are being quoted as the "historical sources" or "expert sources" themselves are wrong so it's garbage in, garbage out. It's the "populist" history of my family. Sometimes it makes me sad to read it and see just how wrong certain parts are but still, there is nothing that can be done because these people want to be told by people that they trust what the truth is regardless of whether those people are wrong or not. I was going to correct some things like the bit where they said that The "Templars did not perform knighting ceremonies, so any knight wishing to become a Knight Templar had to be a knight already." Dominic Selwood, the source that the are quoting, was correct up to 1312 but false after 1312 as we knighted from knight to knight during the escape. In the end I realized that there is no real point in correcting them. They don't agree or even want to know the truth of actual templars. Not really. <ref>Sir Gabriel Smith</ref> <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/110.141.196.126|110.141.196.126]] ([[User talk:110.141.196.126#top|talk]]) 06:27, 10 January 2021 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
John Templar, I do not know you however I AM a templar. Knighted son of a templar, of a templar, of a templar that has a traced Templar lineage back to the 14th century. on top of that I have family stories going back much further. When I come here and read these kind of things it makes me chuckle because people have it so wrong. The people that are being quoted as the "historical sources" or "expert sources" themselves are wrong so it's garbage in, garbage out. It's the "populist" history of my family. Sometimes it makes me sad to read it and see just how wrong certain parts are but still, there is nothing that can be done because these people want to be told by people that they trust what the truth is regardless of whether those people are wrong or not. I was going to correct some things like the bit where they said that The "Templars did not perform knighting ceremonies, so any knight wishing to become a Knight Templar had to be a knight already." Dominic Selwood, the source that the are quoting, was correct up to 1312 but false after 1312 as we knighted from knight to knight during the escape. In the end I realized that there is no real point in correcting them. They don't agree or even want to know the truth of actual templars. Not really. <ref>Sir Gabriel Smith</ref> <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/110.141.196.126|110.141.196.126]] ([[User talk:110.141.196.126#top|talk]]) 06:27, 10 January 2021 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:Wikipedia only uses trusted published sources. You are quite free, of course to write a full and accurate history of the Templars, and get it published by a reputable publishing house. Then Wikipedia editors will be able to quote you here. [[User:IdreamofJeanie|IdreamofJeanie]] ([[User talk:IdreamofJeanie|talk]]) 07:04, 10 January 2021 (UTC) |
:Wikipedia only uses trusted published sources. You are quite free, of course to write a full and accurate history of the Templars, and get it published by a reputable publishing house. Then Wikipedia editors will be able to quote you here. [[User:IdreamofJeanie|IdreamofJeanie]] ([[User talk:IdreamofJeanie|talk]]) 07:04, 10 January 2021 (UTC) |
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And this is why :Wikipedia will never be correct on our history as we do not work like that. All :Wikipedia will be able to do is quote people that have been published and do not know us in the slightest [[User:IdreamofJeanie|IdreamofJeanie]] ([[User talk:110.141.196.126#top|talk]]) 06:27, 16 July 2021 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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This article is full of misinformation and disinformation
You'd be better off going to Quora and reading my answers. John Templar.Cite error: There are <ref>
tags on this page without content in them (see the help page). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.163.80.115 (talk) 23:01, 15 December 2017 (UTC)
- If there is misinformation and disinformation, you're free to find a historical source and edit the article. Oppositely, your Quora answser typically seem to use wikipedia (including, ironically, this page) as sources, and sometimes contain some very questionable content (such as offhandly remarking there'd be a link between the Vatican & the NWO - which is a conspircy theory) 109.135.18.200 (talk) 09:36, 27 August 2020 (UTC)
John Templar, I do not know you however I AM a templar. Knighted son of a templar, of a templar, of a templar that has a traced Templar lineage back to the 14th century. on top of that I have family stories going back much further. When I come here and read these kind of things it makes me chuckle because people have it so wrong. The people that are being quoted as the "historical sources" or "expert sources" themselves are wrong so it's garbage in, garbage out. It's the "populist" history of my family. Sometimes it makes me sad to read it and see just how wrong certain parts are but still, there is nothing that can be done because these people want to be told by people that they trust what the truth is regardless of whether those people are wrong or not. I was going to correct some things like the bit where they said that The "Templars did not perform knighting ceremonies, so any knight wishing to become a Knight Templar had to be a knight already." Dominic Selwood, the source that the are quoting, was correct up to 1312 but false after 1312 as we knighted from knight to knight during the escape. In the end I realized that there is no real point in correcting them. They don't agree or even want to know the truth of actual templars. Not really. [1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.141.196.126 (talk) 06:27, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
- Wikipedia only uses trusted published sources. You are quite free, of course to write a full and accurate history of the Templars, and get it published by a reputable publishing house. Then Wikipedia editors will be able to quote you here. IdreamofJeanie (talk) 07:04, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
And this is why :Wikipedia will never be correct on our history as we do not work like that. All :Wikipedia will be able to do is quote people that have been published and do not know us in the slightest IdreamofJeanie (talk) 06:27, 16 July 2021 (UTC)
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Hugues de Payens of Troyes not French...
It therein reads: "In 1119, the French knight Hugues de Payens approached King Baldwin II of Jerusalem"
Knowing how much of France (right up until 20th century) was not France, an citation is needed anent 'Hugues de Payens' said Frenchness. He at least seems not to of been born in France but in whatever the abodes (if truly born thereat) Troyes stood within. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.157.171.102 (talk) 23:43, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
- Well it was in the County of Champagne, although I suppose when Hugh was born, Troyes was actually still just its own separate County of Troyes. In any case, it's culturally and politically French, for the most part, so "France" is probably good enough. Adam Bishop (talk) 02:00, 1 March 2019 (UTC)
Requesting a section edit: Legacy section, specifically the Modern popular culture section.
In the game Plague Inc. by Ndemic Creations, for the undead-based, Vampire-themed, Shadow Plague special plague type expansion, there is a fictional Private Military Multinational/International or Global Corporation and Company called "Templar Industries" or "Templar Enterprises", which is the primary dedicated hostile enemy or threat and countermeasure force to hunt down the vampire or vampires, the infected, and to help protect cure research, development, and deployment for the Shadow Plague itself.
--Krextzin 22:02, 15 April 2019 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Krextzin (talk • contribs)
Addition to Freemasonary section.
Something should be added to reflect that a youth group for boys was created under the supervision of Freemasonary that uses the name of DeMolay. It was started in 1919 by Louis Lower and Frank S. Land. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Maquiscat (talk • contribs) 00:40, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
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