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Proposal to remove the European Union from the list

The European Union should not be included in a list of countries, while others have pointed out that the EU does share some aspects of nationhood, these aspects do not constitute nationhood and if they did would justify the exclusion of EU member states. Since the removal of EU member states would in my opinion be undesirable and contrary to most readers expectations I propose that the EU should be removed from the list. This woulda also bring this article into alignment with the GDP nominal page.

Most objections to the removal of the EU tend to centre around the idea that inclusion of the figure is interesting for readers or an inherent objection to the removal of data. Which I empathize with and why I suggest the EU could perhaps be included in a separate table with the data from ASEAN which was recently removed and other supernational organizations. 0123Qwerty3210 (talk)

Country ≠ Sovereign state. And even if it did, it would probably violate WP:NOR to independently decide what constitutes a country on a case-by-case basis.

If the EU is in the sources used, then it should not be omitted. If not, then it should not be added.

The GDP nominal page is actually also in a state of flux, determined by a mixture of edit warring and vandalism. We really need a clearer consensus; A similar question was apparently raised at WikiProject Countries recently, but it focuses on subnational regions and it's not clear whether that consensus also applies to supranational polities.

However, I think having a separate list or section for country groups could be a good solution that avoids the risk of confusion. Maybe I'll look into that, or someone else will. Intralexical (talk) 18:52, 23 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Always same history here on brexit wikipedia, you guys keeping EU out on any country list is annoying, any data update on the list is followed by an EU data supression measure thanks of selected exceptionalist brexit users camping on the same articles as they overwacth it almost daily, they may have good use of F5 key or the email article warnings. As any of the 27 member states plus allies and most of the world, except actually small brexiter population (thats not a country), no one's is going to support a neverending EU data removal policy on Wikipedia articles. I think is in right level of shame, sorry about that but the frustation of brexiters are poping on every digital media, platform, web...--Manlleus (talk) 20:37, 6 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The European Union

There is a RfC under way about whether to add the European Union to the List of countries by GDP (nominal). Please share you thoughts. Thanks. M.Bitton (talk) 20:35, 27 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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 :The GDP nominal page is actually also in a state of flux, determined by a mixture of edit warring and vandalism. We really need a clearer consensus; A similar question was apparently raised at [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Countries#RfC: Dependent territories and subnational areas|WikiProject Countries]] recently, but it focuses on subnational regions and it's not clear whether that consensus also applies to supranational polities.
 :However, I think having a separate list or section for country groups could be a good solution that avoids the risk of confusion. Maybe I'll look into that, or someone else will. [[User:Intralexical|Intralexical]] ([[User talk:Intralexical|talk]]) 18:52, 23 June 2021 (UTC)
-::Always same history here on brexit wikipedia, you guys keeping EU out on any country list is annoying, any data update on the list is followed by an EU supression measure thanks of selected exceptionalist brexit users camping on the same articles as they overwacth it almost daily, they may have good use of F5 key or the email article warnings. As any of the 27 member states plus allies and most of the world, except actually small brexiter population (thats not a country), no one's is going to support a neverending EU data removal policy on Wikipedia articles. I think is in right level of shame, sorry about that but the frustation of brexiters are poping on every digital media, platform, web...--[[User:Manlleus|Manlleus]] ([[User talk:Manlleus|talk]]) 20:37, 6 August 2021 (UTC)
+::Always same history here on brexit wikipedia, you guys keeping EU out on any country list is annoying, any data update on the list is followed by an EU data supression measure thanks of selected exceptionalist brexit users camping on the same articles as they overwacth it almost daily, they may have good use of F5 key or the email article warnings. As any of the 27 member states plus allies and most of the world, except actually small brexiter population (thats not a country), no one's is going to support a neverending EU data removal policy on Wikipedia articles. I think is in right level of shame, sorry about that but the frustation of brexiters are poping on every digital media, platform, web...--[[User:Manlleus|Manlleus]] ([[User talk:Manlleus|talk]]) 20:37, 6 August 2021 (UTC)
 == The European Union ==