Wikipedia:Administrative action review

Administrative action review (XRV/AARV) determines whether use of the administrator tools or other advanced permissions is consistent with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Any action (or set of related actions) involving a tool not available to all confirmed editors—except those covered by another, more specific review process—may be submitted here for community review. The purpose of an administrative review discussion is to reach a consensus on whether a specific action was appropriate, not to assign blame. It is not the place to request comment on an editor's general conduct, to seek retribution or removal of an editor's advanced permissions, or to quibble about technicalities.

To request an administrative action review, please first read the "Purpose" section to make sure that it is in scope. Then, follow the instructions below.

Purpose

Administrative action review may be used to request review of:

1. an administrator action

   This includes any action that may be deemed functionally equivalent to an administrator action even when it is not technically an administrator action, because it was an action of an administrator asserted by the administrator to have been performed in a capacity exclusive to administrators (usually actions associated with the conventional role of administrators in certain processes, even when they do not require the use of administrative tools).

2. an action using an advanced permission

Administrative action review should not be used:

1. to request an appeal or review of an action with a dedicated review process

   For review of page deletions or review of deletion discussion closures, use Wikipedia:Deletion review (DRV)

   For review of page moves, use Wikipedia:Move review (MRV)

2. to ask to remove a user's permissions:

   Permissions granted at WP:PERM may be revoked by an administrator if XRV finds them to be misused.

   Repeated or egregious misuse of permissions may form the basis of an administrators' noticeboard or incidents noticeboard report, or a request for arbitration, as appropriate.

3. to argue technicalities and nuances (about what the optimal action would have been, for example), outside of an argument that the action was inconsistent with policy.
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6. for serious, entrenched or persistent disputes and cases of rule-breaking; use Wikipedia:Arbitration ("ArbCom") instead
7. for a block marked with any variation of {{CheckUser block}}, {{OversightBlock}}, or {{ArbComBlock}}; Contact the Arbitration Committee instead
8. to attack other editors, cast aspersions, or make accusations of bias. Such requests may be speedily closed.

Instructions
Initiating a review

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Administrative complaint Fixed

Greetings,

User:C.Fred - Wikipedia

Ignored the sources provided and claimed the edits were dubious. Then stated that the edit made is not what the person listed is most known for, while the link itself also provides information about electrical plating, which is not very known at all, with several other factors involved. This claim is self serving, based on the fallacy of popularity and fallacy of authority, that dictates what he is most known for according to the self governed wikipedia page itself by administrators. It is therefore also the fallacy of ignorance.

This user was reported to the administrative board, which was followed by a message from the user GiantSnowman, stating that the previous message that I posted was a test. Not sure what that meant, so I posted again with a title to minimize any further errors (did not originally add a title, by accident), which I was then blocked with "Your 'complaint' is baseless and is not going to be heard. You don't even mention the article in question! If you post it again I am going to block you for trolling ok? GiantSnowman 21:43, 27 February 2022 (UTC)"

 The article is provided by the username in their editing history, at the given time that was listed in the complaint. This is obviously an excuse by GiantSnowman, or in other words, playing games, to minimize truthful, honest, and worthy observation of the matter, showing unethical, dishonest, and dubious behavior by this administrator. The administrator also did not claim why the complaint was baseless for it to be solved, and simply blocked the claim with the excuse of "trolling", which is the ad hominem fallacy. Due to these listed fallacies, there is "truth" to be found that demonstrates from this given point, the unethicacy and illegitimacy of both administrators and their ability to fit the necessary role on the site.

2607:FB91:13A1:621B:2F4F:7E59:C081:8FC6 (talk) 22:33, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

Discussion

• What is your involvement in this, 2607:FB91:13A1:621B:2F4F:7E59:C081:8FC6? — Charles Stewart (talk) 22:37, 27 February 2022 (UTC)
• NB. I think this is about Shemitz (surname), per the edits by 72.76.208.18 (talk · contribs · WHOIS) -- TNT (talk • she/her) 22:41, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

*If the edit in question is this, it is a normal undo, not requiring special permissions. You should ask for an explanation on the talk page. — Charles Stewart (talk) 22:45, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

• Endorse action of GiantSnowman but recommend halving block length to 24h. This is going to sound harsh, but this is generally how things work on Wikipedia. If you escalate normal editing conflicts to involve admins, your get the sharp end of our editing policy. While a 48h bloc seems kind of long for what I understand is a first administrative action, it's within admin prerogative. I recommend that you wait out the block and then raise your query again on the talk page. — Charles Stewart (talk) 22:59, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

No problem, I did not notice that factor in the discussion to move upon that understanding in previous discussions (obviously). Thank you for being polite/kind. What steps do you recommend to add the desired content and in what framework where it is appropriate for Wikipedia? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2607:FB91:13A1:621B:2F4F:7E59:C081:8FC6 (talk) 23:03, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

• Ask at Wikipedia:Teahouse if my suggestion about raising the matter on the talk page seems unclear. — Charles Stewart (talk) 23:54, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

• Speedy close indecipherable complaint - if the complaining user cannot bother to provide minimal context in the form of diffs or even the title of the article/page where the administrative action occurred, I don't see how it's possible to treat this complaint seriously. We can guess what edits/actions they're talking about, but why bother? This seems to have become the place where anonymous editors extend their trolling session. —⁠ScottyWong⁠— 23:29, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

• While I sympathise with reacting to cases like these with exasperation since they mean more work for our already overworked admin body, it's possible to approach them more constructively. Wikipedia says it welcomes edits from anyone, but actually going ahead and doing that for an anon account is full of risks. Here, while the edit notice for AN/I is full of scary banners, none of them actually explain that raising a complaint on AN/I is potentially dangerous and shouldn't be taken unless you dot your policy 'i's and cross your policy 't's. Perhaps if the new user experience was better here, the behaviour that comes across to you as trolling wouldn't happen. — Charles Stewart (talk) 23:54, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

I completely agree with the last comment by Chalst, as the circumstances comes across as gaslighting and the ban was not only unnecessary but unprofessional. However, I over reacted by a mile, so I apologize. Coming from my background, you'd think I would show more respect towards those that support my family heritage, let alone knowledge itself. I will do further research to provide a better contribution. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2607:FB91:13A1:621B:2F4F:7E59:C081:8FC6 (talk) 00:01, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

+ I do not know what you are referring to with the banners, but okay. I didn't see any banners.

I will not be replying moving forward to this unless required, and will make an account since anonymity creates issues.