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A discussion is taking place to address the redirect [[:List of borderless country]]. The discussion will occur at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 January 30#List of borderless country]] until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. <!-- from Template:RFDNote --> [[User:Matthew hk|Matthew hk]] ([[User talk:Matthew hk|talk]]) 11:37, 30 January 2021 (UTC) |
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: There's no need to maintain a [[List of borderless countries]]. All continental countries share at least one land border with another country. In total, there are 40 borderless countries in the world (including [[Northern Cyprus]]). Except [[Australia]], all 39 other borderless countries are island countries. [[Special:Contributions/120.16.171.146|120.16.171.146]] ([[User talk:120.16.171.146|talk]]) 02:47, 15 May 2022 (UTC) |
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A discussion is taking place to address the redirect List of borderless country. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 January 30#List of borderless country until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. Matthew hk (talk) 11:37, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
- There's no need to maintain a List of borderless countries. All continental countries share at least one land border with another country. In total, there are 40 borderless countries in the world (including Northern Cyprus). Except Australia, all 39 other borderless countries are island countries. 120.16.171.146 (talk) 02:47, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
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Australia
Australia is not just "often referred to as" (= weasel words). It really is an island. If Greenland is an island, why is not Australia?
- Australia has its own continental shelf. Greenland is part of the North American continental shelf. End of discussion. Ddum5347 (talk) 22:56, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
- Same thoughts exactly. Def of an island is a territory surrounded by water regardless of how big or how small; Australia is an island the same as Africa is almost an island of not for the Sinai which locks with Israel that made it not being an island Nlivataye (talk) 16:52, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
- Huge continental mainlands are generally not considered to be islands. Greenland is generally considered the largest island in the world and Australia is generally considered the smallest continent in the world. Australia is not a true island country but it deserves a honourable mention. 2001:8003:9008:1301:501E:2EC1:45D6:B919 (talk) 00:28, 23 October 2021 (UTC)
- We follow sources. Most sources recognise Australia as a continent - it has it's own continental plate - that is why there is an article about the Australia (continent). Some sources also call it an island but it's not 'really' an island but one that has been defined as both with a preponderance of sources calling it a continent. It is nonsense to say Australia is an island because of being surrounded by water because Africa is almost an island - this type of argument merely confuses the issue and there are no sources that say Africa is an island anyway. Robynthehode (talk) 12:53, 23 October 2021 (UTC)
- Huge continental mainlands are generally not considered to be islands. Greenland is generally considered the largest island in the world and Australia is generally considered the smallest continent in the world. Australia is not a true island country but it deserves a honourable mention. 2001:8003:9008:1301:501E:2EC1:45D6:B919 (talk) 00:28, 23 October 2021 (UTC)
- Same thoughts exactly. Def of an island is a territory surrounded by water regardless of how big or how small; Australia is an island the same as Africa is almost an island of not for the Sinai which locks with Israel that made it not being an island Nlivataye (talk) 16:52, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
- If mainland Australia is an island, then Afro-Eurasia, the Americas, and Antarctica are also islands. Greenland would become the world's fifth-largest island.
- I think you have confused landmass with continent and island. 120.16.171.146 (talk) 02:34, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
United Kingdom and the Kingdom of Denmark
I think there is a problem with the definition of the term island country. Does an island country have to have 100% of its territory on islands? If so, why is the United Kingdom considered to be an island country? Gibraltar, however small it might be, is a continental territory on the Iberian Peninsula which is administered by the United Kingdom.
If the United Kingdom can be classified as an island country, then the Kingdom of Denmark (including the Faroe Islands and Greenland) should be classified as an island country too. Over half of the Danish population live on the islands, the capital city Copenhagen is also located on an island. The Jutland Peninsula is the only continental part of the Danish Kingdom but it only makes up less than 1 percent of the Kingdom’s land.
For consistency purposes, I reckon we should either include both the UK and Denmark in the list or exclude both of them. 2001:8003:9008:1301:10C6:CA0D:C6F:5069 (talk) 12:41, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
- @2001:8003:9008:1301:10C6:CA0D:C6F:5069: Before defining whether the UK itself as an island country, a basic cognition you should know is that, as of now, the British Overseas Territories are not considered as parts of the United Kingdom in strict legal sense,[1][2][3][4] this concept has also been explained in the citing annotation to the UK. LVTW2 (talk) 23:56, 10 April 2022 (UTC)