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Ways to improve El Politigato

Hello, NoonIcarus,

Thank you for creating El Politigato.

I have tagged the page as having some issues to fix, as a part of our page curation process and note that:

The references in this article address this comic artists creations. They do not address the biography of the person.

More sources are needed. Individual sources must be evaluated separately and independently of each other and meet the four criteria below to determine if a source qualifies towards establishing notability.

1. Contain significant coverage addressing the subject of the article directly and in depth.
2. Be completely independent of the article subject.
3. Meet the standard for being a reliable source.
4. Be a secondary source; primary and tertiary sources do not count towards establishing notability.
   

Given the mandatory requirements for Biography of Living Persons rendered above, the references in this article do not address the biography of this person. Kindly attend to the matters above.

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I had my doubts, but thought the Birthday Honours list MBE did it - "The person has received a well-known and significant award or honor" Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 10:24, 2 June 2022 (UTC)

Mind you, if the issue here is notability, why not take it to AfD rather than tagging it as unreviewed? Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 10:35, 2 June 2022 (UTC)

@Alexandermcnabb: Hi. My concern is mostly that this was a previously deleted page, with little if any changes to the previous version that I'm aware of. I'm leaving it as unreviewed precisely because I'm not disputing its notability directly. We could notify the users involved in those discussions to address this. --NoonIcarus (talk) 11:00, 2 June 2022 (UTC)

I can see why, BUT the one thing that has been added to the article establishes the person's notability - that he has now received an MBE - "a well-known and significant award or honor", which gets him straight over WP:BASIC. The page is reviewed - that's not a judgement on its suitability for AfD but its validity as a WP page. Hence I believe it should now be tagged as reviewed! Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 11:02, 2 June 2022 (UTC)

@Alexandermcnabb: I agree with this. I have already pinged the users involved in previous nominations, although several of them are currently inactive or retired. I have marked the article as reviewed again as well: any ensuing process, including a possible AfD that other users wish to open, don't require the page to be unreviewed. --NoonIcarus (talk) 11:10, 2 June 2022 (UTC)

Cool. Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 11:13, 2 June 2022 (UTC)

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The battle is pretty well described in the Easter Rising main article and adds nothing further. Whatever is missing, with its citations, could well be merged into the main article.

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verifikado.com as a reference

Hi NoonIcarus. I'm very concerned that you restored verifikado.com as a reference in three articles [1][2][3], and without discussion. The lengthier edit summary you wrote said,The website released several fact checks in its time, it is only inactive currently. You can discuss further at WP:VENRS. I see no mention of verifikado.com at WP:VENRS.

I found some discussion about it, hidden in a collapsed section on the talk page archives for the blackouts article: Talk:2019_Venezuelan_blackouts/Archive_1#Neutrality_and_factual_accuracy

• It was added by @EdgarCabreraFariña:[4]

• @SandyGeorgia: commented and made changes around it ([5])

It was used in a discussion at Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard/Archive_283#RfC:_Center_for_Economic_and_Policy_Research_(CEPR), and the related article talk page, but not used as a reference in the article. Similarly, it was used in discussions twice at Talk:Juan Guaidó, but again not used as a reference. Similarly at Talk:2019 Venezuelan uprising attempt. Are these all you bringing it up?

Note that I'm using autotranslate to assess verifikado.com, which makes it difficult. --Hipal (talk) 16:40, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

Verifikado is a fact checker. What I said in past discussions is that it's OK to add it as an adjunct/note to the original source it is fact-checking, as a further indication that source has been fact-checked, but it probably shouldn't be used stand-alone. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 18:45, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

For example, in this edit, verifikado is used an adjunct to the original source. (Haven't looked at others.) SandyGeorgia (Talk) 18:46, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

Thanks. What information do we have that identifies it as a reliable source at all, let alone a fact-checker? --Hipal (talk) 20:10, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

It's not being used to cite text. It's adding a note to otherwise cited text. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 22:06, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

@Hipal: Hi! Although I have responded in the Jeffrey Sachs talk page, I have to join SandyGeorgia's comments and point out that no examples or reasons have been given for the removal of otherwise referenced content. I would be happy to address these concerns if you have any. Best regards! --NoonIcarus (talk) 15:55, 3 July 2022 (UTC)