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WP:10YT, WP:PAGEDECIDE, WP:NOTDIARY etc. this should be a single sentence on the Wikipedia page of Twitter or so rather than a bloated mess based on "breaking news" articles. TryKid ^{[dubious – discuss]} 20:27, 17 December 2022 (UTC) addendum: cf. Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Paul Gosar Twitter video incident for discussion and consensus/decision on a similar incident. TryKid ^{[dubious – discuss]} 21:18, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete these Twitter accounts getting suspended does not deserve its own seperate article. BlueShirtz (talk) 20:34, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed. This tempest in a teapot does not need a memorial stone. Rekleov (talk) 01:01, 18 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - Disagree with this AfD nomination. This is about more than just some random account suspensions, and can't be summarized in a single sentence. The Thursday Night Massacre involves free speech issues, Elon Musks' relationship to journalists and the political system, social media moderation ethics, etc. The story is also still ongoing. Important enough to keep for now and wait and see how the story evolves, and what the lasting impact and importance is. Cheers! 98.155.8.5 (talk) 20:54, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
They've all been reinstated. Why weren't mass permanent suspensions of high-profile conservative accounts given its own separate article? 175.136.139.226 (talk) 20:48, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Would you please reference which conservative accounts you are talking about? What were the grounds for suspension in these cases? Some specifics would be useful. Cheers! 98.155.8.5 (talk) 20:50, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I mean, Trump doesn't have his own article. And his suspension was commented on by many heads of states around the world. 175.136.139.226 (talk) 21:02, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Much of that is contained in Social media use by Donald Trump. Sungodtemple (talk • contribs) 21:04, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
His suspension does not have a singular, separate article, even though it was important enough for many heads of states to comment on it specifically. 175.136.139.226 (talk) 21:05, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Move or Redirect Tons of high-profile social media accounts, most notably conservatives, have been suspended in the past few years. No seperate articles for these because WP:NOTNEWS. Move it to Twitter, or the Acquisition of Twitter by Elon Musk article. 191.54.178.56 (talk) 20:45, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - oh for fick’s sake, if “Twitter files” deserves an article then so does this. Probably even more. Volunteer Marek 20:45, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
in response to this and the first IP above. cf Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Paul Gosar Twitter video incident. If there is a "need to see" whether this will have any lasting impact, that just means there's no lasting impact visible right now. and so, no need for a separate article. if it does turn out to be independently notable in the future, the page can always be excavated from the history. as for Twitter Files, while I personally don't agree these are similar, the policy WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS—feel free to AfD that too. TryKid ^{[dubious – discuss]} 20:49, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
There clearly is visible impact right now though. Several interviews with journalists have discussed a chilling effect on free speech. Cheers! 98.155.8.5 (talk) 20:53, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
First off, I'm not sure why you keep ending your sentences with "cheers!". It comes off as condescending. Second, as all but one of the journalists' accounts have been reinstated, I'm not sure as to where the "chilling effect on free speech" would be. 108.51.103.205 (talk) 21:21, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Twitter files has sustained coverage. It takes a crystal ball to determine if this will. schetm (talk) 20:50, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Not really. It has sustained coverage among crazy people. This is obvious much bigger if for no other reason than the fact that the people that got banned get to write stories about it in major outlets. Volunteer Marek 20:54, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Politico, New York Times, NPR, New York Magazine, etc. Yup, only crazy people have provided sustained coverage of Twitter Files. schetm (talk) 20:59, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I believe internal documents regarding actual administrative decisions are markedly more important than some suspensions. Wikipedia is (whether intentional or not) blowing the issue way out of proportion, as are other news media sites. 108.51.103.205 (talk) 20:52, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Coordinated attacks on journalists (changing the rules to make them in breach of sharing...publicly available information) and consequently also the foundations of democracy on a major global platform seems to be....important enough to talk about. 69.159.86.214 (talk) 20:59, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Coordinated attacks? This entire event was just Musk having an outburst. As of right now, both Spaces(which were removed ostensibly because he was being criticized in them) and the accounts have been restored. In two weeks people will have moved on. 108.51.103.205 (talk) 21:01, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

All the accounts have been reinstated. What are you on about? 175.136.139.226 (talk) 21:04, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Please discuss the article to be deleted, citing why it doesn't follow wikipedia policies. We aren't here to discuss one another's point of view or why it's right or wrong. Oaktree b (talk) 01:21, 18 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

On one hand, we get to see exactly how top-level executives of a large social media platform deliberate content moderation, that also their interactions with government officials and bodies. The public has never seen such detail of this context ever. On the other hand, temp suspensions that are attributable to extreme incompetence; the kind of mass suspensions we've seen Twitter do pre- and post-Elon. Explain how the latter is more important than the former. 175.136.139.226 (talk) 20:58, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

As a whole we need all editors to not rush to create articles just because something gets wide coverage. A burst of coverage is not the same as enduring notability, and we want editors to write as if 10+ years have passed and focus on the salient points and key outcomes, not the "juicy details" particularly when it comes to a ideological conflict in the AP2 area. Certainly this incident with the journalist, barring any actual sanctions from the EU, is a newsblip. The Twitter Files are close to being a news blip too and probably should be merged as well. Masem (t) 23:14, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, appears to be distinct enough from Twitter Files and clearly has a lot of coverage. This may need reconsidering in a few years, WP:10YEARS. Sungodtemple (talk • contribs) 20:52, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy delete. Self-promotion for a group of non-notable journalists trying to turn themselves into a story. No one will remember this in a week.Pinchofhope (talk) 20:54, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

There’s obviously enough reliable sources in the article *right now* (more will probably be added over time) to falsify your crystal-ballin’ Volunteer Marek 20:57, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Watch out there. It's going to have to meet WP:GCSD or WP:ACSD. I think you meant strong delete? Sungodtemple (talk • contribs) 20:58, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

yes change that to Strong delete. Pinchofhope (talk) 21:00, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Btw, this is article/AfD is all over twitter, Musk amplified it (called Wikipedia “controlled by MSM”) so expect a lot of crazy in the next 24 hours here. Volunteer Marek 20:57, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Non-notable? Then why do some of them have their own Wikipedia pages? Cheers! 98.155.8.5 (talk) 20:56, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

And yet here all of you first-time wiki editors are appearing to insist it's not important enough to have a page. If it wasn't important, you wouldn't be so vehemently opposed. 69.159.86.214 (talk) 20:56, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Prove that this article conveys anything of substance. To mee this just seems like WP:NOTNEWS 108.51.103.205 (talk) 20:59, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, this article is disproportionate left-wing activism. This topic should be at most a subsection in Twitter's article. Twitter suspensions occur ramapantly for years, including many accounts of sitting officials in multiple countries. Fbergo (talk) 20:56, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Lol, “I think this article is left wing activism (sic)” wtf that is suppose to be, is not a valid reason for deletion. Come on. You’ve been here ostensibly since 2005. You should know that. Volunteer Marek 20:59, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

WP:NOTACTIVISM? Sungodtemple (talk • contribs) 21:00, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, please actually read the bulletin points in that and then also realize that this has nothing to do with notability. You can’t just say “I think this is activism!” without substantiating it and expect to be taken seriously. Volunteer Marek 21:07, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Merge into Twitter suspensions. WP:NOTNEWS and WP:NOPAGE applies. It's too soon to determine whether or not this will have "enduring in-depth coverage," and there's nothing in this article that doesn't belong in Twitter suspensions. schetm (talk) 20:57, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Disagree on WP:NOTNEWS. Page contains sufficient reliable sources, involves people notable enough to have Wikipedia articles, and does not involve "celebrity gossip". Aveaoz (talk) 21:02, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Either Keep or Merge into an overall article about Musk's handling of twitter since his takeover. May or may not be notable enough for a whole article, but definitly requires extended coverage in some form somewhere. However, may develop more to the extent that it warrants its own article. Jspace727 (talk) 21:01, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Merge into Twitter#Acquisition_by_Elon_Musk. I think this is an excellent example of WP:RECENT and WP:TOOSOON. This needs long term support in reliable sources before it is notable enough for inclusion. Esolo5002 (talk) 21:04, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, they had their bans removed within two days anyways. There has been other mass suspensions which do not have their own Wikipedia articles such as those on January 8th and the two months following. FoxTech20 (talk) 21:07, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Merge into Acquisition of Twitter by Elon Musk. Not a significant-enough event to warrant an individual article - should be a section of the overall acquisition article. DRYT.Motorsport (talk) 21:08, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per WP:NOTNEWS. Social media sites change their rules or suspend users all the time and it's unlikely that this incident is so much more notable that it merits its own article. --TocMan (talk) 21:10, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Merge into Twitter#Acquisition by Elon Musk - the event may be notable, but probably not for an article. LilianaUwU ^{(talk / contribs)} 21:12, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete A few Twitter accounts getting temporarily suspended doesn't merit a 3,000-word article. Castilruiz (talk)

Delete per WP:NOTNEWS and possibly WP:NOR 108.51.103.205 (talk) 21:13, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Gee, how does a brand new IP account with 3 edits know about WP:NOTNEWS and WP:NOR (answer: either banned user or people on twitter are instructing twitter users how to vote here and what reasons to give) Volunteer Marek 21:18, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

While I do agree IP is likely canvassed, you have got to agf. Maybe 108 actually read the ridiculous amount of policies and guidelines before voting, as Wikipedia usually expects them to. Sungodtemple (talk • contribs) 21:22, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Exactly right! 108.51.103.205 (talk) 21:26, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Irrelevant to the topic at hand, but to answer your question, I've lurked the more technical aspects of wikipedia for a while, but never got into editing. This is an interesting topic to me, so I've decided to comment. If my commenting annoys you or you think "twitter is sending people", I'd recommend getting some fresh air. 108.51.103.205 (talk) 21:26, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Keep, especially considering the amount of international backlash it's recieving, with the European Commission musing over whether to sanction Musk for suppressing the free press.Elishop (talk) 21:16, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I agree that it should be kept, or the entire article should be merged into the Twitter, Acquisition by Elon Musk page. SomhlthSmith (talk) 22:04, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per WP:NOTNEWS and WP:CRYSTALBALL, with no prejudice against recreation if something of enduring notability ends up developing from this. I personally think that articles ought to have a little time to breathe before being AfD'd, which this one got. At the time of its creation, the suspensions were claimed to have been permanent; instead, it seems that all of the journalists were unsuspended quite quickly after Elon realized this was dumb. That is, Matt Binder (@mattbinder), Drew Harwell (@drewharwell), Steven L. Herman (@W7VOA), Micah Lee (@micahflee), Ryan Mac (@rmac18), Donie O'Sullivan (@donie), Keith Olbermann (@keitholbermann), and Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) have been unsuspended; the only exception is Linette Lopez (@lopezlinette). One person being suspended from Twitter is not really notable, unless it is the President or something. Linette Lopez is not the President. Eight people (many of them below the threshold of notability) being suspended from Twitter for one day is not notable, and it's barely even newsworthy -- if these people didn't work for newspapers, I highly doubt that newspapers would have written about it. Note that, for example, one of the sources for Micah Lee's suspension is... an article written by Micah Lee. Other things (like the banning of mastodon.social) links may prove significant in the future, but even so, it's hard to justify having a standalone article about them. While I am personally annoyed when websites ban people for stupid reasons, this has been a fairly regular occurrence for quite some time, and I don't think there is anything particularly distinctive about this event that makes it stand out from, say, the existing list article at Twitter suspensions. jp×g 21:17, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note that I have no ill will for the creator of the article; at the time, there was no way of telling which direction things were going to go. Sometimes things end up being the start of something huge, and sometimes they don't. Anybody who's tried to write about current breaking-news events on Wikipedia get burned sooner or later; I know I sure have! jp×g 22:00, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Trump's Twitter suspension doesn't even have its own page. This is absurd. - Bbny-wiki-editor (talk) 21:17, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
trumps suspension can be summarized in a paragraph, this is far more nuanced. hence the background gone over in the article. Dol661 (talk) 21:36, 17 December 2022 (UTC)— Dol661 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]
Delete I've been kicked out of a chat room before. Didn't think to create a Wikipedia page about it. Adraeus (talk) 21:19, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
are you a journalist? did you read the article? this was a series of unwarranted bans against journalists, because they tagged another user... not just that but the outright ban of linking to twitters competitors. this literally breaks anti trust laws in many countries twitter operates in. Dol661 (talk) 21:41, 17 December 2022 (UTC)— Dol661 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]
Strong delete textbook example of WP:NOTNEWS KINGofLETTUCE 👑 🥬 21:22, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Strong delete Complete nonsense and irrelevant. Elserbio00 (talk) 21:23, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Merge into Twitter suspensions. Seems like there's already a section about that here: Twitter suspensions#2022 suspensions of journalists. Some1 (talk) 21:23, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete This event was overall very quickly resolved and is of questionable relevance and hence does not require its own article. Further there is already a succinct explanation of the event on the suspension of twitter accounts page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twitter_suspensions#2022_suspensions_of_journalists. KNorth192 (talk) 21:23, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Not news by any reasonable measure. It's an embarrassment to wikipedia to have content like this. 72.79.45.22 (talk) 21:25, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Keep -- clearly notable in existing context. Seeing lots of brigading here by folks who are being pushed to vote by a subject of the article (Musk), which argues in favor of keeping to ensure we are not sockpuppeted into making deletion decisions we shouldn't make. Secarctangent (talk) 21:25, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

What evidence do you have for your claims? 72.79.45.22 (talk) 21:27, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm...what's my evidence that non-wikipedians are brigading this, asked the non-logged-in IP address? Kinda answers itself. Secarctangent (talk) 22:14, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Merge anything useful to Twitter suspensions - this seems like a new case of a new version of Wikipedia:Not every single thing Donald Trump does deserves an article. (Oinkers42) (talk) 21:26, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Not a big event. GoodDay (talk) 21:27, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Among other good reasons mentioned above, the first source in the article is a journalist talking about his own suspension. That's clearly a primary source for our purposes and gives an idea about potential conflicts of interest in other sources. Twitter suspensions covers this as much as necessary. —Torchiest ^talk_edits 21:30, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Elon Musk, the CEO and owner of private company Twitter, publicly changed company policy and made 'doxxing' against Twitter policy. This was following an incident involving his young son being location tracked by a masked man who jumped onto the bonnet of the car he was in. In a response to the new policy, several journalists posted Elon Musk's location coordinates and links to information for the location of Elon Musk's private Jet Plane. Those journalists were subsequently suspended from Twitter for 1 day. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 112.203.104.110 (talk • contribs)

Keep. This is a notable controversy widely covered in numerous mainstream RS. WP:CRYSTALBALL is irrelevant because the events have already happened. I am not convinced by WP:NOTNEWS arguments: this is going to be highly notable for years because the events involves Twitter and Elon Musk, a company and a man who are both famous, as well as many other people we have pages about and who appear on this page. No merge with "Twitter suspensions" because that is a different sub-subject. This is a significant censorship controversy. It should not be merged to Acquisition of Twitter by Elon Musk because that had happen after the acquisition and a different subject. I simply do not see any valid justification for deletion. The page could be renamed, but this is a different issue. My very best wishes (talk) 21:32, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete WP is not a newspaper, the level of detail we need to cover is a few sentences at best likely at Twitter (where it is already covered). There's a whole bunch of things Elon Musk has done in the last two weeks that have gotten a lot of coverage but WP is meant to be a high-level summary, not a play by play. --Masem (t) 21:32, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Merge into Twitter#Acquisition by Elon Musk - Seems to be an important part of a larger story, that being everything going on with Musk and Twitter. CitiCat^♫ 21:34, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
For anyone who argues that this is just a flash in a pan NOTNEWS story, here: “Twitter condemned by UN and EU over reporters’ ban” (with threats of sanctions etc) Volunteer Marek 21:37, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Oh yes, absolutely. This is going to have a very much lasting effect on Twitter and Elon Musk. We have no obligation to hide any negative but highly notable info about Musk and his company. My very best wishes (talk) 21:44, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Saying they are considering sanctions, and actually placing sanctions, are two very different things. One falls into CRYSTAL territory which we do not consider contributing to notability. Masem (t) 23:17, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - this is one of those NOTNEWS scenarios. No lasting effects. Also there are people commenting here about the Twitter Files delete discussion which is irrelevant OTHERTHINGSEXIST. Sorry I’m not linking to the actual pages here I’m on a phone. Anyways delete Nweil (talk) 21:39, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Strong delete "Thursday Night Massacre"... really, who dubbed this as a relevant event with such a pompous, absurd name? As if comparing this to the Kristallnacht. Totally out of mind. Okay, now seriously - would be extremely embarrassing to have something like this here. It reeks of pure activism, amplified by absurd magnitudes. It's not even a relevant event per se, given that these journalists have been temporarily suspended and are now back up. Should suffice as fundamental reason to delete this mess. Other reasons WP:NOTNEWS WP:CRYSTALBALL but I could add up more. Please be mindful that once again people are looking closely at Wikipedia and its editors... this definitely looks more like a partisan crusade of politically leaning zealots more than anything else. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.32.3.24 (talk) 21:45, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Another brand new account citing Wikipedia policies like a pro. I.e., someone coming over from twitter after being instructed how to vote and what to say. Volunteer Marek 21:48, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This seems like a copy-pasted or otherwise "cached" comment given that it was moved, and is no longer called "Thursday Night massacre".

I am inclined to agree with Volunteer Marek regarding what's happening here. CharredShorthand (talk) 21:50, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The page still contains the phrase, based on a Intercept source. as an aside, I was like 50% sure the "Thursday Night Massacre" was made up some 4chan type troll to mock the journalists. but whatever the origin, it has now been used by one of the journalists themselves, writing for the Intercept. quite embarassing for them, but I don't think Wikipedia should be blamed for this, if it wasn't the original source. TryKid ^{[dubious – discuss]} 21:58, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'm the editor that re-edited-in the "Thursday Night Massacre" name as it was mentioned in multiple articles, some of which are linked as sources. While I also find the name somewhat extreme (though I strongly disagree with you implying it is supposed to sound similar to Reichspogromnachts. It's clearly a reference to Saturday Night Massacre), WP:NPOV takes precedence-- it's what's reported, it's what it's referred to as by some, and as such it felt appropriate to include that in the article. Aveaoz (talk) 21:52, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Volunteer Marek I would highlight that not having a registered account on WP doesn't mean I'm not a periodic Wiki contributor. The fact that I don't register is a non-sequitur in your reasoning and you can't imply that I'm "just another 'someone' coming from Twitter". That's ostensibily fallacious. Moreover, even if it were the case (and I should overstate it's not), you should be glad that users get involved and interested about the process, getting closer to Wikis communal, open decision-making process (it's open and public, as it's meant to be). And finally, regarding my initial remark, let me add that having had distant relatives that have gone through the 40s persecution, I feel indignant and aghast, about the obvious and outrageous analogy with the KristallNacht. I humbly believe the journalist(s) that conceived that name in the source is not a journalist to be taken seriously, independently of whichever newspaper they're writing from. Please be mindful. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.32.3.24 (talk) 22:09, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Merge deserves mention but doesn't need a stand-alone article as it can be easily summarized on Twitters page. WP:NOTNEWS, WP:TOO SOON, and general absolutely ridiculous overreaction by editors in even creating this article. Slywriter (talk) 21:49, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per WP:NOTNEWS and WP:CRYSTALBALL Trump's Twitter suspension doesn't have its own page, why should seven journalists who received a two day suspension have one? Nothing notable about it. Seanr451 (talk) 21:54, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note how many brand new and sleeper accounts (less than 250 edits) are showing up quoting the exact same two policies - NOTNEWS and CRYSTALBALL. Yes, this is being coordinated. Volunteer Marek 21:58, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - The intensity of the attempt to suppress this article demonstrates the importance of said article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.169.156.160 (talk • contribs)
Speedy delete WP:NOTNEWS, the accounts have already been reinstated. --Jfhutson (talk) 22:18, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, though perhaps start a name change discussion on the talk page to rename to Thursday Night Massacre, since that appears to be the common name being used by reliable sources. As an event, it would likely be a sub-section in the main Twitter article, but has enough content to be split out into its own article here. Particularly considering the international impact the event is having in regards to the EU and elsewhere responses.

Also, it would be best if all of the SPA accounts that Elon sent over here, much like he did with the last AfD on the Twitter Files, should have their "votes" moved to the talk page here, rather than being allowed to clutter this discussion. Silver seren^C 22:20, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Remark: There was a move from "Thursday Night Massacre (Twitter)" to the current title 2 hours ago. Please see the relevant section on the talk page. Aveaoz (talk) 22:23, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I just noticed. And the arguments made therein are...really dumb? The existence of other articles with "Thursday Massacre" are entirely irrelevant, nor does one's personal perspective on it being a "massacre" or not matter whatsoever. What is the WP:COMMONNAME? That is what should be used, period. To do otherwise is to be non-neutral. Silver seren^C 22:24, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Merge into Twitter suspensions seems better than deletion. I don't think this is notable enough for its own article. Gamebuster (Talk)║(Contributions) 22:21, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Merge into Acquisition of Twitter by Elon Musk, as this seems like it's being reported on in the context of the Twitter acquisition, with close ties to Elon as a person (due to ElonJet). Aveaoz (talk) 22:27, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I think merging into Twitter suspensions seems to make more sense. I definitely think a mention and link in Acquisition of Twitter by Elon Musk to the info after it's been moved to Twitter suspensions is certainly warranted though. Gamebuster (Talk)║(Contributions) 22:30, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per WP:NOTNEWS and WP:NOT. Bruxton (talk) 22:28, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to Acquisition of Twitter by Elon Musk (or alternately Twitter suspension). To the extent this is currently expected to have any lasting significance it as part of the acquisition and transition, not on its own. It's far too early to say that it will have any lasting independent significance. Jahaza (talk) 22:41, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Keep This page is a historical artifact at this point illustrating just how far left and biased wikipedia has become. Deleting it would be a disservice to the absolute absurdity of this page, it authors, and every editor and source who blatantly misrepresented the facts and illustrated such sensationalism over this matter. Kcmastrpc (talk) 22:48, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe move to the WP:Project namespace and tag with template:humor? --Jfhutson (talk) 22:55, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Merge into the Twitter Suspensions article per WP:NOTNEWS. ser! ^{(chat to me - see my edits)} 22:54, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, Merge into Twitter suspensions. I'm surprised there is even an article on the suspensions. WP:NOTNEWS is overused but it has been completely disregarded when it comes to Twitter. Coretheapple (talk) 23:01, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete This is nothing serious to remember or create "Day of Suffering Leftists" maybe Zboralski (talk) 23:07, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy STRONG KEEP Turbo - This is much more notable than normal suspensions, European Union and United Nations condemning and considering sanctions make this an international incident. Old Guard (talk) 23:10, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Merge into Twitter suspensions#Incidents as to stay consistent with the suspension of other major figures. --Pichu0102 (talk) 23:14, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Merge I think the safest thing would be to merge this into the twitter article (as much of a behemoth that article is) or the Acquisition by Elon Musk article or w/e it's called. Lotta folks seem to have a strong opinion about this, and ordinarily I'd be happy to vote to tweak their nose about it, but this is wikipedia, not twitter. This *is* substantially different from a regular suspension, and probably doesn't actually deserve to be sent to a giant list somewhere to be forgotten, but it's also tough to argue it deserves to be an entire article on its own. If it were up to me, I'd keep it - but I think that's personal bias. Tentonne (talk) 23:23, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Twitter suspensions might benefit from splitting into a major Twitter suspension incidents article and a list of notable Twitter suspensions as to allow more breathing room for notable incidents to be expanded on. --Pichu0102 (talk) 23:30, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep or merge into Twitter suspensions and Twitter#Acquisition by Elon Musk - This is absolutely notable enough to be kept, it's just a case of where. Merging it into Twitter would be a bad idea considering the article is rlly long already. ImStevan (talk) 23:28, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comment to closer - Given the real world circumstances surrounding this AfD (i.e. Musk's campaign), the closer should carefully examine each !vote, and accept only those from regular editors, perhaps using Extended Confirmed status as a guideline. Beyond My Ken (talk) 23:32, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Merge: merge and redirect target to Twitter suspensions. Nom and above comments match my reasoning. ~ Pbritti (talk) 23:34, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per WP:NOT, these suspensions ultimately lasted just over 24 hours, far from warranting their own separate article Saget53 (talk) 23:39, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete or merge: Article's existence is dependent on left-wing criticism of the decisions, thus flagrantly violating the neutral point of view. ViperSnake151 Talk 23:44, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think the United Nations (or EU, or the journalists in question or their respective news outlets, or others who reported on and criticized the event) are inherently left-wing. I don't even necessarily think the article ought to be kept (at the time of writing this I haven't !voted), but !votes like this that are only based on a perception that this article is left-wing propaganda & fail to reference the article deletion criteria hold no weight. Vanilla Wizard 💙 00:44, 18 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete lacking in notability per Wikipedia:Notability (events). If it must stay, then condense and add to Twitter suspensions. Spirarel (talk) 01:24, 18 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete or merge with the other articles already written.

There is no reason to create an entire new overly dramatic article about a temporary suspension thay didn't even last a day, specially considering the languages used and the fact that they wanted to somehow liken this to kristalnacht. Kane 1371 (talk) 23:48, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Merge to Twitter suspensions or, alternatively, Owning the libs. soibangla (talk) 23:50, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep or Merge. Event is notable, but may be more appropriate included in another Twitter-related article. Klausness (talk) 00:03, 18 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Twitter suspensions's relevance as an article is questionable; this is barely notable enough to warrant a sentence on it. Joshua Garner (talk) 00:04, 18 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep is a notable event that might have profound effects to Twitter and beyond. Let it sit for now. QRep2020 (talk) 00:06, 18 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete not worthy of being notable considering the left bias in this article is worrisome.MrHerii (talk) 00:07, 18 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
you are free to add the right wing viewpoint to the article, we're here to keep things neutral Oaktree b (talk) 01:25, 18 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete If I can go down memory lane - in 2017 Trump fired Sally Yates, a few excitable media outlets dubbed it the "Monday Night Massacre", a Wikipedia article was created with that title, and there were Wikipedians swearing that the Monday Night Massacre would go down in the history of the United States and us having a standalone article and its having such a ridiculous title were completely justified. Then after a few months everyone calmed down and it just became Sally_Yates#Dismissal and I don't think anyone would try and resurrect the standalone article. This incident is far, far less worth a standalone article. NPalgan2 (talk) 00:29, 18 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
keep clearly meets WP:N as a topic. Further, most all of these delete/merge !votes are just stating opinions without explaining why the article doesn't meet our inclusion guidelines. There are valid arguments to make, but "not notable" (e.g. "only lasted 24 hours"), arguments that NPOV is violated because the articles aren't coming from conservative sites, etc. aren't valid arguments here. Hobit (talk) 00:48, 18 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, as per WP:NOTNEWS and the fact that 8 out of 11 of the mentioned journalists do not have pages. If all the mentioned parties were notable, I can see a case to be made over this, but as of writing - no. Lucksash (talk) 01:00, 18 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politics-related deletion discussions. Curbon7 (talk) 01:07, 18 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete/Merge Wikipedia is WP:NOTNEWS, meaning that it is a summary, not for blow-by blow coverage of events. This can easily be covered adequately at Acquisition of Twitter by Elon Musk. Hemiauchenia (talk) 01:13, 18 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep or Merge - wide coverage in RS. MiasmaEternal☎ 01:19, 18 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, our "reliable" sources are only as good as their ability to be non-self-interested. [osunpokeh/talk/contributions] 01:24, 18 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep well sourced, using various RS from around the world, the Toronto Star, the Washington Post and Rolling Stone, the Independent from the UK. Is very much at GNG. Oaktree b (talk) 01:31, 18 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Merge into Twitter suspensions. Gentgeen (talk) 01:31, 18 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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 *'''Delete''', our "reliable" sources are only as good as their ability to be non-self-interested. &#091;[[User:Osunpokeh|osunpokeh]]/[[User talk:Osunpokeh|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Osunpokeh|contributions]]] 01:24, 18 December 2022 (UTC)
 *'''Keep''' well sourced, using various RS from around the world, the Toronto Star, the Washington Post and Rolling Stone, the Independent from the UK. Is very much at GNG. [[User:Oaktree b|Oaktree b]] ([[User talk:Oaktree b|talk]]) 01:31, 18 December 2022 (UTC)
+*'''Merge''' into [[Twitter suspensions]]. [[User:Gentgeen|Gentgeen]] ([[User talk:Gentgeen|talk]]) 01:31, 18 December 2022 (UTC)