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Hello! Please tell me why ''[[Léon Degrelle|this person]]'' is present simultaneously in two mutually exclusive lists: ''[[List of Knight's Cross of the Iron Cross recipients (D)]]'' and ''[[List of foreign recipients of the Knight's Cross of the Iron Cross]]''? Other Belgians, Latvians, etc. in the service of the Wehrmacht are not included in the list of foreign recipients and other foreigners are not listed by letter. [[User:Wild Child~enwiki|Wild Child]] ([[User talk:Wild Child~enwiki|talk]]) 16:53, 29 March 2023 (UTC) <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Wild Child|Wild Child]] ([[User talk:Wild Child#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Wild Child|contribs]]) </small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
Hello! Please tell me why ''[[Léon Degrelle|this person]]'' is present simultaneously in two mutually exclusive lists: ''[[List of Knight's Cross of the Iron Cross recipients (D)]]'' and ''[[List of foreign recipients of the Knight's Cross of the Iron Cross]]''? Other Belgians, Latvians, etc. in the service of the Wehrmacht are not included in the list of foreign recipients and other foreigners are not listed by letter. [[User:Wild Child~enwiki|Wild Child]] ([[User talk:Wild Child~enwiki|talk]]) 16:53, 29 March 2023 (UTC) <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Wild Child|Wild Child]] ([[User talk:Wild Child#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Wild Child|contribs]]) </small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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ok, i got that point, thanks. please tell me then this: 7321 recipients of the Knight's Cross and 43 foreign recipients are indicated. How is Léon Degrelle counted? Not twice? [[User:Wild Child~enwiki|Wild Child]] ([[User talk:Wild Child~enwiki|talk]]) 15:23, 30 March 2023 (UTC) |
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I have corrected your previous concerns about the above assessment. Are you going to return to this assessment and finish it?Georgejdorner (talk) 22:04, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
Thank you for your assessment of the above.Georgejdorner (talk) 18:28, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
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False claim of vandalism
Do not make claims in edit summaries that valid edits are vandalism as you just did at Hermann Hoth. Not only is that extremely poor wiki-etiquette, but it is highly misleading and just wrong. It is also disruptive, and you have been here long enough to know that it is not ok. If you make an edit and it is reverted or substantively changed, then follow WP:BRD and start a discussion on the talk page. Thanks, Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 11:58, 5 August 2022 (UTC)
- @Peacemaker67: sorry, I assumed vandalism because it is self evident that it is an improvement. Cheers MisterBee1966 (talk) 12:03, 5 August 2022 (UTC)
- I completely disagree. It clearly is not an improvement. It adds confusion. Adding the literal translation doesn't help the reader's understanding one iota. English speakers will easily work out that Generalmajor translates as Major General without being told (likewise Generalleutnant), but adding it doesn't help their understanding at all, because that wasn't the equivalent rank at the time. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 13:01, 5 August 2022 (UTC)
- @Peacemaker67: Let's agree to disagree, but you are the boss here and subsequently the gatekeeper of information. I can agree to you latest edit which adds "equivalent to". We are all good here MisterBee1966 (talk) 13:28, 5 August 2022 (UTC)
- In the WWII era, Generalmajor and Generalleutnant are one rank below the literal translations that you provide. Generalmajor is equivalent to brigadier and Generalleutnant is major general. The Germans had General der XX which is their equivalent of the American/Commonwealth Lieutenant General.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 01:22, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
- Precisely Sturm. I'm hardly the "boss" or "gatekeeper" MB, and I resent the assertion that I behave in that way. You initiated this by reverting my legitimate edit as "vandalism". If you want to have a substantive discussion about the merits or otherwise of your edits versus mine, let's have one on the talk page in question. Consensus will rule, as it should on WP. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 01:38, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
- @Sturmvogel 66: @Peacemaker67: May I remind you of that my edit was: Generalmajor (Brigadier General—lit. 'Major General') and Generalleutnant (Major General—lit. 'Lieutenant General'). I did this to reflect exactly what Sturmvogel 66 said, a German Generalmajor semantically equates to a brigadier general while linguistically it translates to major general, likewise for the Generalleutnant. My addition was therefore 100% factually, semantically and linguistically correct. As said, how to reflect this ambiguity in translation is a matter of style and I am okay with the current "equates to" result. Cheers MisterBee1966 (talk) 04:34, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
- @Peacemaker67: Let's agree to disagree, but you are the boss here and subsequently the gatekeeper of information. I can agree to you latest edit which adds "equivalent to". We are all good here MisterBee1966 (talk) 13:28, 5 August 2022 (UTC)
- I completely disagree. It clearly is not an improvement. It adds confusion. Adding the literal translation doesn't help the reader's understanding one iota. English speakers will easily work out that Generalmajor translates as Major General without being told (likewise Generalleutnant), but adding it doesn't help their understanding at all, because that wasn't the equivalent rank at the time. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 13:01, 5 August 2022 (UTC)
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The name's not familiar, but I'll check my bookcase and get back to you.Georgejdorner (talk) 23:33, 1 December 2022 (UTC)
- Winterfelt is not listed as an ace. However, the five victory standard for recognition was not a universal measure in WWI air forces. The Imperial German Air Force laid emphasis on the fourth and tenth victories.Georgejdorner (talk) 05:14, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
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Hello! Please tell me why this person is present simultaneously in two mutually exclusive lists: List of Knight's Cross of the Iron Cross recipients (D) and List of foreign recipients of the Knight's Cross of the Iron Cross? Other Belgians, Latvians, etc. in the service of the Wehrmacht are not included in the list of foreign recipients and other foreigners are not listed by letter. Wild Child (talk) 16:53, 29 March 2023 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wild Child (talk • contribs)
ok, i got that point, thanks. please tell me then this: 7321 recipients of the Knight's Cross and 43 foreign recipients are indicated. How is Léon Degrelle counted? Not twice? Wild Child (talk) 15:23, 30 March 2023 (UTC)