User talk:Archives908

recent troll account

Hi dear Archives, sorry that you had to deal with troll account leaving messages like this in your talk page. They should get reported and banned for vandalism edits and threats on the talk page. Btw wanted to suggest easier way to deal with vandalism reverts: You can select the first edit and last edit before the vandalisms, and click "compare selected revisions" (here for example, comparing your edit to the vandals' last edit). Then click "undo", and give your standard edit description (in this case, instead of "undo" being above your name, it would've been above vandals' name). That would revert all the vandal edits without the need to do it one by one. Hope this helps, cheers. ZaniGiovanni (talk) 04:32, 21 August 2021 (UTC)

Hi ZaniGiovanni, I agree- that user is clearly POV pushing. And thank you, that is a very big help. I feel embarrassed to say that I wasn't even ware of that useful time saver, it is much appreciated! And thank you for all your contributions to this encyclopedia! Cheers, Archives908 (talk) 14:19, 21 August 2021 (UTC)

Update- I just reported the vandal! Archives908 (talk) 14:43, 21 August 2021 (UTC)

Nice! Not gonna lie, wikipedia can be confusing sometimes. At first I used to think that you can only revert multiple edits by having the rollback rights. But there are some ways as I learned eventually like this one (hope my scuffed grammar wasn't an issue in understanding the method), and also you can try enabling Twinkle from the Gadgets section of Preferences. It all works with the same "compare selected revisions" tool in the Revision history.

If you'll need any help, please leave a message on my talk page. With best, ZaniGiovanni (talk) 17:03, 21 August 2021 (UTC)

You're amazing, thanks again for the tips ZaniGiovanni! FYI- the POV user is now blocked. Archives908 (talk) 18:13, 21 August 2021 (UTC)

Another list for deletion

Hey, I saw you voted in the deletion nomination for the big tent political party list. Thought you might be interested in voting on another nomination as well as it was submitted by the same person for the same reason at almost the same time. Feel free to chime in, whichever way you want to vote: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of syncretic political parties -AndreyKva (talk) 01:52, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

Yea, I saw that, thanks AndreyKva. I just commented- none of the deletion requests make any sense to me. Regards, Archives908 (talk) 02:19, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

Hello

@Archives908 Sire, i have noticed that you placed the foreign relations file below the political infobox of Armenia. this recent edit is twitching my eye. because, i am trying to put the nations' relations file as first in "float-preview" feature. Readers would usually prefer to find the svg file first.. Utkarsh555 09:23, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

I get what you are trying to do. The only thing is, the placement of the map makes the article layout very awkward. In this case, we have a floating map right at the top, before even the lead. It's bizarre. I also don't think having a map as the float preview image will significantly increase readership of the article. I'm not opposed to your changes, but, you must realize that it creates an awkward layout of the article. So, we must figure out, what is the lesser of two evils? Not having the map as the float preview -or- creating an awkward layout? Archives908 (talk) 15:56, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

@Archives908 Ok. If possible by you, then can you make the article such that the "politics" template stays above the relations file, but the file appears first in float feature, because how much i am trying, the picture from the politics template is appearing first, rather the file. so, if you can fix that thing, i would be immensely grateful! Utkarsh555 15:13, 7 March 2022 (UTC)

Utkarsh555, I don't know how to do that, but I will do some research to see if I can figure it out. Please do the same, because I think showing your map as the preview image will be a good improvement. We just need to figure out how to achieve that without changing the current layout. Thanks! Archives908 (talk) 16:55, 7 March 2022 (UTC)

@Archives908 Thank you very much! i am happy to cooperate with you, Sire! Utkarsh555 16:57, 7 March 2022 (UTC)

Utkarsh555 thank you :) I hope we can figure it out! Archives908 (talk) 17:02, 7 March 2022 (UTC)

@Archives908 Hello! sire, while working of the foreign relations issue, i worked out and found that if we could edit the "Template:Politics of Armenia" instead i was thinking, why not do some twitching with the code of the template itself? I am not scared, but worried: that what if someone finds it disruptive? and block me? so, i guess, we should first do that in our respective sandboxes, and then reach a cemented conclusion. Utkarsh555 15:39, 8 March 2022 (UTC)

Hi Utkarsh555. I will leave that project to you since I have zero experience with altering code. If you practice in your sandbox, you will not be blocked. Good Luck and let me know if you discover anything. Although, at this point, I think it would be easier to just either leave the image where it is or move it above the template. Archives908 (talk) 16:08, 8 March 2022 (UTC)

@Archives908 as you wish, I am glad that you took a point of min in keeping the image above template. If you have no problem, then surely, I am glad to do it! Thanks for the conversation, sire!

հաջողություն ձեր հետագա խմբագրումների համար: հարգանքներով, նոսրացնում է Հնդկաստանը Դելիից😁😁 Utkarsh555 09:59, 9 March 2022 (UTC)

Utkarsh555, the only problem with that is creating the awkward layout. It would still be better if we could find an alternative solution. If there is no other solution, then I am not opposed to your edit. I will try and help when I have some time. 😁 Thank you, friend! Archives908 (talk) 14:20, 9 March 2022 (UTC)

@Archives908 one way that is coming in my mind is to edit the template. I can find no other solution as of now. Meanwhile, I whil continue to edit the template sample in my sandbox. I would be glad, if you too could come up with an alternative, and then sort it out, settle it down. Ok, I will do this by 20th March of some work, then finally messaging you the decison.

Utkarsh555 14:35, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

Sounds great! Thank you. Archives908 (talk) 16:14, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

@Archives908 Sire, so now, after [even fully draining out myself from Holi festivel], i again took the issue of the template and foreign relations. befor holiday, i tried/experimented several times, but the output is coming out to be the same. I tried changing the format somewhere, but it looks like the svg file of Armenian coat of arms is coving the initial preview. since both the files are svg in the article, the first svg file is blocking the second. I am now suggesting for that "weirdo" code layout which you mentioned at earlier. Utkarsh555 08:14, 21 March 2022 (UTC)

Greetings, friend. In all honesty, the article, float image, and layout is fine as it is. We both tried to find a solution, but I do not have the time to continue with this. There is nothing wrong with maintaining the Armenian coat of arms as the default float image. Placing the map above the template is bizarre as it is literally floating right on top beside no other text, it looks sloppy. I think keeping the map in the lead is far better and visually more acceptable. Take care, Archives908 (talk) 13:55, 21 March 2022 (UTC)

@Archives908 ok sire, thanks, i got it. Utkarsh555 03:14, 23 March 2022 (UTC)

Euro-Atlantic partnership council is my school assignment

Hi there, I don’t know who you are, but I’ve noticed you have deleted all of my works on Euro- Atlantic Partnership Council wiki page, I know you may not agree with what I’ve edited, but edited and publish this wiki page is my school assignment, so could you please leave it for me and my classmate to edit without doing anything. Thank you so much. 2604:3D08:6E7E:9A00:B50B:2AD8:F63E:B77C (talk) 04:00, 17 March 2022 (UTC)

Your edits are not constructive, nor are they being done properly. You keep adding sources using copy and paste techniques, you fail to right edit descriptions, and you have ignored my warnings about removing the article's lead several times. Just because you have a "school assignment" does not justify your disruptive edits. If you continue, I will be forced to report your account/and this ip address to the Admins. Archives908 (talk) 15:29, 17 March 2022 (UTC)

I'm not sure who the anon is, but I assume it's someone connected with MingyueH. They've contacted me by email, since apparently they forgotten the parts of the training that warn against unsourced additions and edit warring. Please ping me if you run into problems with students - I tend to have a better chance of reaching people who end up with this misconception about the assignment.

Sorry about this mess. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 17:00, 17 March 2022 (UTC)

Hi Ian (Wiki Ed), thanks for your message. Whoever this ip is, I also suspect they are connected with MingyueH and now using an account and an ip to push their edits. They are causing quite the disturbance on Euro-Atlantic Partnership Council‎, despite several warnings. Another editor had to revert an edit due to copyright violations. On top of that, there are no edit summaries, no sources, and they keep removing the lead- while ignoring all warnings. Either they start to understand the general Wikipedia ethos and cease with the disruptive edits, or we may have to report them if they continue to ignore warnings. Thanks for reaching out! Regards, Archives908 (talk) 17:35, 17 March 2022 (UTC)

I saw the copyvio issue that Diannaa had to deal with. Since they emailed me, I'm hopeful things will be sorted out, but if not I have no problem using blocks, partial blocks, or semiprotects to handle disruptive editing. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 18:01, 17 March 2022 (UTC)

Reply for last message

I’m sorry for remove the lead, because I’m not familiar with how to edit a wiki page, and because me and my group members are editing the wiki page together, so we are editing it little by little, when you see the page, we were taking a break or switching a person to keep editing, our assignment will due next Wednesday, hope you could give us a chance to finish all. 2605:8D80:446:93F2:C954:2E79:C427:205 (talk) 17:40, 17 March 2022 (UTC)

If your edits are constructive, well sourced, and do not violate copyright rules then I see no problem. However, the article will have to be restored to the current stable version if you continue to ignore warnings/add copyright content. I recommend you ensure you are well versed with Wikipedia policies before you continue your edits to the page. Archives908 (talk) 17:46, 17 March 2022 (UTC)

Hello, i saw you have added a logo to the sidebox on Euro-Atlantic Partnership Council page, but we couldn't find that image on Wikicommons, i'm not sure if that it okay to be there. MingyueH (talk) 05:40, 21 March 2022 (UTC)

MingyueH, I have uploaded it using the proper channels. I have been editing on Wikipedia for several years and am fairly knowledgeable with best practices. I recommend you continue to acquaint yourself with the Wikipedia ethos and stop using multiple accounts/IP's to make changes. Archives908 (talk) 13:41, 21 March 2022 (UTC)

Centrist Democrat International

Hello, I am sorry to misleading about CDI's definitions features. About last conversation to lead, It may seems disruptive to the analysis features that make an disapproved contents, and it seems harassing definition, from you and me. Raden Maksim (talk) 00:56, 13 April 2022 (UTC)

Armenia list

Hi, don't you think its more informative to have a table that lists the countries chronologically instead of just listing them? --Semsûrî (talk) 13:08, 3 May 2022 (UTC)

• Hello Semsûrî! I see you have been generating such lists for foreign relations related articles and your contributions are improvements to those articles as many of them did not have a lot of information to begin with (especially for smaller countries) and/or were very poorly organized, often a chaotic mess. However, Foreign relations of Armenia has a lot more sourced information, and is generally well organized, as compared to other such articles. I've also noticed that foreign relations articles' differ greatly (in terms of quality and layout) among one another and there is no set standard to judge each one too. I have been working on Foreign relations of Armenia for several years (since 2018 and still on-going, granted at a slow pace) trying to improve the scope of it. To blanket remove information regarding embassies/diplomatic missions, relations, and other pertinent notes is worrisome. To replace it with a chronological list (at least in this case) may not be necessary, in my opinion. Kind regards, Archives908 (talk) 13:39, 3 May 2022 (UTC)

Perhaps removing info from the tables was wrong, but I considered that info to be redundant now with the chronological list as they only contained info on the date of establishing diplomatic relations (the info on embassies must have been unsourced). I still believe the table I added is more informative than the current list under the "Countries with diplomatic relations"-section. Nonetheless, I won't continue with my push. Also, the first and third map on the article depict the same thing and one should be removed. --Semsûrî (talk) 14:24, 3 May 2022 (UTC)

Thank you for your understanding and your equally hard work towards improving such articles! Yes, indeed you are right in regards to the image duplication. User Utkarsh555 has been generating maps and adding them to almost every single "Foreign relations" article. From what I understand, the user is trying to figure ways to "float-preview" the image, without adjusting current layouts/moving any lead templates of the articles'. Apparently, he is sandbox testing ideas. I will allow the user to continue his trials, but if no progress is made, I'll remove the duplicate map in due course. Cheers, Archives908 (talk) 19:29, 3 May 2022 (UTC)

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NATO-CSTO

Okay, I fixed the map. SVG maps display better. — kwami (talk) 21:36, 25 July 2022 (UTC)

Working on it. Trying to find the matching blank map. — kwami (talk) 21:41, 25 July 2022 (UTC)

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Armenian Revolutionary Federation

Hi. I just wanted to note that the point of my edit that created a redlink on Armenian Revolutionary Federation was to help WP:BUILD by providing a redlink that should potentially have a page or redirect created for it. {{Interlanguage link}} will automatically hide the external link (unless told not) if or once the redlink page is created. Perhaps this isn't a useful link for the English Wikipedia and I don't intend to edit war over it, though I may potentially inadvertently make a similar edit in the future if this page is in the WP:AWB list again. Happy editing, Ost (talk) 22:46, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

I understand and thank you for the explanation. I only reverted because I felt having the redlink in the infobox for such a prominent political party served less useful then having an inter-language link. Should the corresponding article ever be created in English Wikipedia, I'd be happy to adjust the link accordingly. Cheers! Archives908 (talk) 22:55, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

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Tugh/Togh

Hello - you reverted my changes to Tugh/Togh but I don't understand what was incorrect. Please explain. I was in that village last week and it is certainly the case that there is no permanent population there at present. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tugh_(village)&oldid=prev&diff=1117774305 As for the detail about previous population, I was trying to make it clear that the situation has changed over time which seems helpful. Best wishes, Malikbek Malikbek (talk) 11:38, 27 October 2022 (UTC)

Your first hand account "visiting" the town is not accepted as a WP:RS. Any further concerns should be addressed on the articles' respective talk page- not here. Thanks, Archives908 (talk) 12:40, 27 October 2022 (UTC)

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Ethnic groups in Europe

I see you have twice reverted editing without explanation. You may have good reasons for insisting on including material about ethnic groups in western Asia in that article, but there certainly aren't reasons for doing so which are obvious enough to justify repeatedly inserting the material without explaining why. I also see that you have reported the editor whose edits you have been reverting for "vandalism", but I can't see any reason to think that removing the information about people in Asia is done in bad faith. JBW (talk) 17:25, 15 December 2022 (UTC)

I simply restored the article as information was removed/changed without any explanation first. You seem quick to point out that I did not provide any explanations, yet the IP who began removing content without explaining gets a pass. Double standards? Archives908 (talk) 18:07, 15 December 2022 (UTC)

And what about the perfectly fine map? Again, the IP provides zero explanation for its removal/replacement. The previously used map should be restored and the IP should take their concerns (which remain unknown to all of us) to the talk. Archives908 (talk) 18:19, 15 December 2022 (UTC)

Per WP:BRD, the IP should have discussed their proposals following the initial reversion. Archives908 (talk) 18:37, 15 December 2022 (UTC)

The Distribution of major languages of Europe has been modified to the 'rectified distribution of major language of Europe' hence the term 'rectified'. This map is the current status-quo.

Some of the reasons for this:

1) the rectified map uses dashed lines to show where languages coexsist rather than patches making it more accurate for potential distribution + aesthetically easier to visualise

2) Distribution of the Sami languages and tatar is more accurate in the rectified map

3) The old map suggests Britton is solely spoken in the NW peak of France which is inaccurate

4) Kurdish is not a european language

5) Old map makes a mess of caucasian & altaic languages

6) Old map shows German aswell as other languages as native in east russia which is misleading.

Please stop edit warring and accusing/ reporting IPs of 'vandalism' on no grounds

If you have a valid reason for why the old map is more accurate please do share, but all indications lead to the 'rectified' map being far more accurate and simplified for valuable and understandable ease. Academic10 (talk) 23:38, 5 January 2023 (UTC)

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Technical Assistance to the CIS

I understand why you reverted my first change, but why bother re-adding that line about the EU being the single largest foreign assistance donor in the world? How is that relevant to the article? General Lemarc (talk) 06:55, 14 February 2023 (UTC)

I restored the whole thing because your edit summary was pretty vague. Care to explain the removal of "TACIS is now subsumed in the Global Europe programme"? As for the second sentence regarding aid, it may not serve a purpose in the article- but technically the information is correct. I'm not opposed to its removal, I just didn't understand the removal of the first part. Archives908 (talk) 18:30, 15 February 2023 (UTC)

The first part was because I had misunderstood the subject of the article. I read "Technical Assistance to the CIS" and assumed this was a program by the CIS for the CIS. I glazed over the parts where the article explained that this was a European-run program, so later on when I saw the first line I assumed it was either made up or disinformation about the evils of Europe, given that I believed that this was a purely CIS program. It made no sense and deserved to be reverted. The second one, though, has no bearing on the topic except to color perception of it, which isn't something articles should do. General Lemarc (talk) 21:56, 15 February 2023 (UTC)

No worries, thanks for the explanation. I will not oppose if you wish to remove the second part regarding EU aid. Thanks! Archives908 (talk) 22:16, 15 February 2023 (UTC)

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Reversion clarification

Hello there! @Archives908

Thank you for your reversion to the edit; I believe explaining here will be more appropriate. I am still uncertain I why you reverted it, nonetheless I will accept it. The terms Russophilia and Pro-Russian are synonymous, yes, but if you do not mind explaining that will be helpful. Kevin9217 (talk) 15:35, 21 February 2023 (UTC)

Hi there, Kevin9217 :) Thanks for seeking clarification here. I completely agree with you that the terms "Russophilia" and "Pro-Russian" are synonymous. However, if you look at other "Pro-Russian" political parties in Armenia, all their respective infoboxes use the term "Pro-Russian" (Prosperous Armenia, Republican Party of Armenia, Voice of the Nation (Armenia), Towards Russia Party, Constitutional Rights Union, etc...). Therefore, I believe it's best to be consistent throughout. It doesn't make sense to use "Russophilia" in one article, while a dozen others use "Pro-Russian". Hope that clears things up! Thanks, Archives908 (talk) 15:52, 21 February 2023 (UTC)

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list of bank

there are already links to articles for the countries I only deleted the banks that already had articles, i did that because i saw the same thing in the list of marvel characters articles Gerçois (talk) 07:34, 13 March 2023 (UTC)

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Statist, etatist

In the Eurasianism article I corrected a misprint: in the source the expression is etatist, not statist, you can check it. But the meaning is the same, and it is not a direct quote, so I don't mind your revertion. Szilas (talk) 16:24, 6 April 2023 (UTC)

Understood- thank you for the explanation! Feel free to reinstate your version if you'd like. Cheers! Archives908 (talk) 16:55, 6 April 2023 (UTC)

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Please review policies

Dear Archives908,

Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. I appreciate you taking the time to identify my typos and pointing me to certain Wikipedia policies that I was unaware of.

There seems to be some friction between us regarding the article European Union Mission in Armenia:

A) curly/straight brackets: you are right to point out that I repeatedly mix-up curly and straight brackets. I have improved this and will continue working on this. I apologize for my oversights and will continue looking at this.

B) style and content: You have reverted my edits a few times independent of the curly/straight-brackets issue, putting the following in the edit summary "these are not improvements." and "please familiarize yourself with higher standards of editing!"

i) you have implemented grammatical errors when you have tried to correct my mistakes.

ii) you have not provided reasons for reverting my edits or have remained vague "these are not improvements" or "So many sloppy mistakes made to this well written article....please familiarize yourself with higher standards of editing!"

It is important to provide clear reasons in the Edit Summary when removing content, especially removing content multiple times within 24 hours.

Please consider reading the following before removing content: WP:RVREASONS, WP:JUSTDONTLIKEIT, and MOS:SECTIONSTYLE

Additionally, the policy you cited WP:GNG adjudicates whether or not a new article is merited rather than the content of an already existing article.

I would like our relationship to remain cordial because I genuinely appreciate your contributions but you have not pointed to a Wikipedia policy that supports your removal of the content in European Union Mission in Armenia.

I hope you have a great day!!! Humanatbest (talk) 17:43, 16 June 2023 (UTC)

There would be no friction if you could please take the time to review your edits before you click "publish". After almost a dozen times, I am still having to advise you about MOS:CURLY/MOS:STRAIGHT. It is very frustrating that you keep adding curly quotes after several warnings. I understand you have only been editing Wikipedia for 6 months on about ~10 articles, however, this is an easily fixable solution. If you can just spare an extra minute reviewing your edits, I wouldn't have to clean up all the curly quotes afterwards. Others may think its silly, but I do not. In regards to European Union Mission in Armenia, I have restored 99% of your edits after having to clean up some mess. For example, you added additional countries to the Contributing states section that were randomly placed. If you took the time to actually understand the layout, you would have noticed that countries are listed alphabetically. I did not understand the logic of rearranging countries and making an alphabetical list, non-alphabetically listed. Please explain your rationale of this, because to me, it seems pretty reckless and that is why I called your edit sloppy. Regarding your comments about "removing information in 24hrs", you should know that removing information within 24hrs is totally acceptable- so long as you do no violate WP:3RR. I have never violated 3RR in regards to your additions and as stated previously, I have restored 99% of your added text after I had to fix 1) multiple curly quotes 2) alphabetically arranging text and 3) fixing the same full length source being used three times (leading to WP:ILCLUTTER). Please familiarize yourself with how to add the same source (being used multiple times) properly as your edit caused unnecessary clutter. In terms of omitted content, "The mission is required to inform the EU Special Representative before each patrol on a weekly basis, who then informs the Azerbaijani side to ensure safety" is the only significant text which I did not restore. I believe it contradicts WP:NOTEVERYTHING in the sense that it is not particularly useful information that will overall benefit the reader towards understanding EUMA. The duties and responsibilities of EUMA are already sufficiently highlighted in the article. Therefore, more mundane/ trivial information does not seem to serve much purpose. As you can see, I thought all of this would be self-evident to you, but I guess I was mistaken. Not only are edit descriptions not mandatory (per WP:ES), but understandably so, it is impossible to summarize all this in one edit summary. Which is why I'm glad you brought this up here. Please take the time to read, digest, and comprehend these basic Wiki norms and ethos. Finally, in terms content regarding a specific article, some editors feel strongly that those discussion(s) (per WP:TALK) be kept to the respective article's talk page rather than the editor's personal talk page. Some are very picky about that. I hope these tips serve you well. Regards, Archives908 (talk) 21:07, 16 June 2023 (UTC)