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February 2, 2013	Good article nominee	Listed

A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on August 6, 2007.

The text of the entry was: Did you know ...that Weston-super-Mare's Birnbeck Pier has the longest lifeboat slipway (pictured) in England?

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I have kept this article short for its first draft. However, there is a huge amount of information on the referenced websites that could be transferred to the article if desired. --Cheesy Mike 15:07, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yes but nearly all the references are web based, however much of this information is also in books. Book references are needed in this is to maintain B-class. I'm adding a

flag.Pyrotec 19:02, 18 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The pier was not used for the bouncing bomb, nearby Brean Down Fort was, the pier was used for storage in the wartime era. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.144.149.189 (talk) 01:12, 25 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Merger proposal

I can't see any point in having separate articles for the pier and the island and therefore propose merging them.— Rod ^talk 21:49, 13 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. Unless someone is proposing to do a significant expansion of Birnbeck Island! (Hint: its use before the pier was built...)Geof Sheppard (talk) 14:04, 14 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Support: Even though I am confused why Birnbeck Island should have its own article because it is a seperate island, I am supporting this because the article does not have enough information or importance. Also, it makes more sense because the island is named after the pier (or the pier is named after the island!). Jaguar (talk) 17:34, 17 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks - I've now completed the merge.— Rod ^talk 18:50, 17 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

i found about birn beck pier about two years ago I've been trying get on the website the last month with out any luck I'm going to be in Weston over the weekend 82.34.131.37 (talk) 17:14, 4 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Working towards nominating this article for Good Article status

I have recently obtained a copy of the Terrell book and have been editing the article. I am thinking of nominating it for "Good Article" status soon. Apart from the "page needed" tag on the van der Bijl reference, which I'm working on, is there anything else that other editors feel is needed before it can be nominated?— Rod ^talk 21:54, 5 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

- The second paragraph in the lead section is incomplete: During the second half of the 19th and early 20th centuries the pier was popular both with tourists to the town. I'm not sure that the article tells us what the other of "both" is. Geof Sheppard (talk) 13:29, 22 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

- Thanks - added locals and...— Rod ^talk 13:41, 22 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

- We should clarify why (when?) the pier is stated to have two different lengths in the 'Construction' section. Geof Sheppard (talk) 13:40, 22 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

- I've reworded this and added an explanation about the 1903 storm affecting the low water jetty. Does that make more sense?— Rod ^talk 21:06, 22 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

That's got it. Geof Sheppard (talk) 13:55, 25 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

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Reviewer: Retrolord (talk · contribs) 10:34, 30 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Points of concern so far:

Removed addressed points as per Rod's request. Will conduct a formal review with a template shortly. Thanks! Retrolord (talk) 11:49, 2 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Rate	Attribute	Review Comment
1. Well-written:
	1a. the prose is clear, concise, and understandable to an appropriately broad audience; spelling and grammar are correct.	Do you think we should expand the acronym for RNLI? Do you mean in the picture caption as the first use within the main text has Royal National Lifeboat Institution before the abbreviation.— Rod ^talk 13:57, 2 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
	1b. it complies with the Manual of Style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation.
2. Verifiable with no original research:
	2a. it contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline.
	2b. reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose).
	2c. it contains no original research.
3. Broad in its coverage:
	3a. it addresses the main aspects of the topic.
	3b. it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style).	Bit concerned about this sentence, could you have a go at a rewrite? For a different issue than last time. is this notable enough for mention? Happy to hear your opinion if you want to keep it. This cost £70,000 but can be removed once permanent facilities can be provided again and then reused elsewhere.[51] Having done a quick web search it appears that this is a new strategy/design by the RNLI & have not used boathouses which can be reused on another site before - so therefore i think it is a significant development & should stay.— Rod ^talk 13:57, 2 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
	4. Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each.
	5. Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute.
6. Illustrated, if possible, by media such as images, video, or audio:
	6a. media are tagged with their copyright statuses, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content.
	6b. media are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions.
	7. Overall assessment.	Pass! Retrolord (talk) 22:40, 2 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Pier or Bridge?

It would be helpful if there was an explanation of why this structure is called a 'pier'. Elsewhere in the world it would be called a 'bridge'. Indeed, it seems that the pier has replaced what was going to be called a bridge.147.147.24.37 (talk) 11:58, 15 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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 :'''Support''': Even though I am confused why [[Birnbeck Island]] should have its own article because it is a seperate island, I am supporting this because the article does not have enough information or importance. Also, it makes more sense because the island is named after the pier (or the pier is named after the island!). [[User:Jaguar|Jaguar]] ([[User talk:Jaguar|talk]]) 17:34, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
 ::Thanks - I've now completed the merge.&mdash; [[User:Rodw|Rod]] <sup>[[User talk:Rodw|talk]]</sup> 18:50, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
+:i found about birn beck pier about two years ago I've been trying get on the website the last month with out any luck I'm going to be in Weston over the weekend [[Special:Contributions/82.34.131.37|82.34.131.37]] ([[User talk:82.34.131.37|talk]]) 17:14, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
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