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:The Japanese page doesn't mention the previous jun-yusho either, so I'm not sure that's a good indicator. SumoDB doesn't mention Kirishima's yusho either nor the special prizes for this tournament yet, they need a bit of time to update. |
:The Japanese page doesn't mention the previous jun-yusho either, so I'm not sure that's a good indicator. SumoDB doesn't mention Kirishima's yusho either nor the special prizes for this tournament yet, they need a bit of time to update. |
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:Everywhere I have looked, the definition of jun-yusho is simply the second best record, there |
:Everywhere I have looked, the definition of jun-yusho is simply the second best record, there is no other condition, be it the need to be in contention at a given moment or a maximum win differences. Atamifuji, Kotonowaka and Ichiyamamoto all happen to fit that definition for this basho. [[User:Bombur8|Bombur8]] ([[User talk:Bombur8|talk]]) 09:47, 26 November 2023 (UTC) |
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::Kotonowaka is in second place, just see the lleaderboard in transmission. https://www.youtube.com/live/Zy2asMBP7Ok?si=ujbNs-vVmF_Wl6l7 |
::Kotonowaka is in second place, just see the lleaderboard in transmission. https://www.youtube.com/live/Zy2asMBP7Ok?si=ujbNs-vVmF_Wl6l7 |
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::The time is: 1:11:57 |
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Jun-yusho
@Bombur8 Per TRRE we'll discuss whether there's jun-yusho or not. Firstly, Japanese wiki doesn't mention the jun-ysho. Secondly, SumoDB doesn't mention jun-yusho. It is because Atamifuji lost not only on the fourteenth day but also on the fifteenth, and as he was no longer in a position to compete for the title unless Kirishima lost and he won, he's not jun-yusho. I saw that you had also added jun-yusho to Kotonowaka (who was no longer in contention for the title since day thirteen) and Ichiyamoto (also day thirteen), which is the opposite of the very definition of jun-yusho, as both of them were nowhere near a runner-up position anymore. Please stop. - OtharLuin (talk) 09:40, 26 November 2023 (UTC)
- The Japanese page doesn't mention the previous jun-yusho either, so I'm not sure that's a good indicator. SumoDB doesn't mention Kirishima's yusho either nor the special prizes for this tournament yet, they need a bit of time to update.
- Everywhere I have looked, the definition of jun-yusho is simply the second best record, there is no other condition, be it the need to be in contention at a given moment or a maximum win differences. Atamifuji, Kotonowaka and Ichiyamamoto all happen to fit that definition for this basho. Bombur8 (talk) 09:47, 26 November 2023 (UTC)
- Kotonowaka is in second place, just see the lleaderboard in transmission. https://www.youtube.com/live/Zy2asMBP7Ok?si=ujbNs-vVmF_Wl6l7
- The time is: 1:11:57
- 👍🏻🙂 Nanywa (talk) 09:52, 26 November 2023 (UTC)
- By the way, here is an older basho with an even bigger difference in wins between the yusho and the jun-yusho, so I hope this settles the conversation:
- https://sumodb.sumogames.de/Banzuke.aspx?b=201809#M Bombur8 (talk) 09:57, 26 November 2023 (UTC)
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