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:well other victims of shootings typically get redirected to the shooting article. [[Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting|Sandy Hook Elementary school shooting]] for example. Victims such as [[Allison Wyatt]], [[Grace McDonnell]] etc have redirects. [[User:Elizzaflanagan221|Elizzaflanagan221]] ([[User talk:Elizzaflanagan221|talk]]) 12:28, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
:well other victims of shootings typically get redirected to the shooting article. [[Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting|Sandy Hook Elementary school shooting]] for example. Victims such as [[Allison Wyatt]], [[Grace McDonnell]] etc have redirects. [[User:Elizzaflanagan221|Elizzaflanagan221]] ([[User talk:Elizzaflanagan221|talk]]) 12:28, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
::Your argument that [[WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS]] is poor and is not in itself a reason why the aforementioned should be kept as redirects. We have to ask for what benefit and purpose does an article or redirect serve in its existence? I don't see any value in these redirects and as the victims are all deceased, cannot decide themselves if they'd want their identities associated with such an atrocity. I don't see any policy specific to this circumstance, which is probably why there is no agreed precedent. '''[[User:Bungle|Bungle]]''' <sup>([[User talk:Bungle|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Bungle|contribs]])</sup> 13:24, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
::Your argument that [[WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS]] is poor and is not in itself a reason why the aforementioned should be kept as redirects. We have to ask for what benefit and purpose does an article or redirect serve in its existence? I don't see any value in these redirects and as the victims are all deceased, cannot decide themselves if they'd want their identities associated with such an atrocity. I don't see any policy specific to this circumstance, which is probably why there is no agreed precedent. '''[[User:Bungle|Bungle]]''' <sup>([[User talk:Bungle|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Bungle|contribs]])</sup> 13:24, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
:::well like i said, most articles on mass tragedy events have redirects with the victims names. If you think its morally wrong or u dont agree with it, you should make this a bigger discussion and not just solely on the FedEx shooting. [[User:Elizzaflanagan221|Elizzaflanagan221]] ([[User talk:Elizzaflanagan221|talk]]) 17:18, 31 May 2024 (UTC)


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Revision as of 17:18, 31 May 2024

May 29

This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on May 29, 2024.

Traditional laws of armed conflict

While this term is currently mentioned in the article, the concept writ large generally doesn't have some specific connection to the Jewish law concept of "voluntary war". Delete per WP:REDLINK. voorts (talk/contributions) 22:51, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, I was skeptical about making the redirect to this page, since the redirect is more of a generic term that can apply to almost any country's traditional laws of armed conflict. Feel free to delete the redirect, if you should deem it not meeting the redirect guidelines. We all make mistakes. Cheers. Davidbena (talk) 00:14, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:HOUSE

most ppl think of actual houses nowadays, not house MD. Kinopiko talk 22:46, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Where do you suggest this redirect be re-targeted to? Ca talk to me! 01:42, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. This redirect originally targeted Wikipedia:WikiProject Crowded House when it was created (well, created then fixed) in 2007. The redirect was retargeted to a former name of its current target in 2009. Since this redirect had multiple targets during its lifetime, I'm not a straight-up "keep" in this case and am actually not sure what the best path forward here is. Maybe disambiguate? Steel1943 (talk) 01:47, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Bashira

Move Bashira (film) to Bashira, as the article about the film at least has citations and seems more notable than the newspaper in Iraq which had zero sources for 16 years and which we weren't able to find any sources for now. If/when sources are found for the newspaper, the article could be recreated as Bashira (newspaper). Cielquiparle (talk) 21:53, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Alley Boy

Redirects to an article that doesn't mention this subject. Delete the redirect and let the redlinks be red again. Yappy2bhere (talk) 19:36, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"Alcohol expectations" and "Alcohol expectancies"

Neither of these are mentioned in the target article, leaving the redirects unclear in what they refer to. (However, Alcohol expectancies is a {{R with history}}.) Steel1943 (talk) 19:33, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Bui Quoc Huy

Redirect is protected, discussion created on behalf of 2600:6C44:117F:95BE:9460:4DA2:ADC1:9976. Their request was the following: Bui Quoc Huy and Bùi Quang Huy are 2 different names in Vietnamese. They're not interchangeable names. Bui Quoc Huy page should not be a redirect page. It should be deleted and applied article creation protection afterwards due to persistent sock activities in the past. Those socks have been trying to write a PR article on Bui Quoc Huy for years in Vietnamese Wikipedia too. See Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Smagzine for more information. This page is a direct result of a sock master. It was later turned into a redirect page. Tollens (talk) 19:30, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Various "ingesting/eating soap" redirects towards "Washing out the mouth with soap"

I do not believe any of these phrases has been used in regular context as synonymous phrases for the target. If anything, these phrases most likely refer to soap-eating, which apparently there is a word for: Sapophagia, which we apparently do not have an article for. And ... Wiktionary:sapophagia does not exist either. Steel1943 (talk) 18:50, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete them all as per WP:REDLINK. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 20:48, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete, inclined to agree that the phrases don't really match the article's intended meaning (more around taste and contemporarily, as an expression). The closest to relevance is perhaps "ingest" but it's not a likely phrase either. Bungle (talk • contribs) 21:43, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment I have long wondered if perhaps an article by the name of "soap ingestion" or something similar would be appropriate. Unlike "washing out the mouth with soap," which refers specifically to a form of punishment, "soap ingestion" encompasses the use of soap as punishment, compulsive soap-eating (sapophagia), accidental soap ingestion, and more. Andrea Parton (talk) 05:07, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
comment: no chance of the act or fetish of consuming soap becoming its own article? i think it would warrant at least someone remembering to write a definition for it in wiktionary, since the word exists cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 12:22, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Cogsan: If so, the article would be similar to Pagophagia. Steel1943 (talk) 12:41, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
don't see how, honestly. pagophagia might gradually kill some people sometimes maybe, sapophagia could probably do it in a week
that aside, they are different forms of consuming things, sapophagia might not be inherently voluntary, compulsive, or intentional, and they are different things being consumed
maybe the section names would be similar? cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 12:50, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That's what I was getting at. I want saying that they would be identical, but had some similarities. Some things similar I'm finding, for example, are related to people participating in these acts if they are iron-deficient. Steel1943 (talk) 13:36, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Croangunk

implausible misspelling? cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 17:27, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Croalurk

apparently initially a misreading of its english name due to a low quality picture, currently a name for other unrelated things (mostly fursonas, apparently) cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 17:26, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. The only thing I can think of with this name would be a fusion of Croagunk with Golurk in Pokemon Infinite Fusion... except Croagunk isn't IN Infinite Fusion. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 20:52, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Bidoof's Big Stand

that's a 2022 animated short, currently not mentioned in the target. if mentions of it could be made somewhere, would it be in the current target? cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 17:20, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment It seems to be referenced at List of Pokémon special episodes. A retarget there could work. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 18:12, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Retarget to List of Pokémon special episodes#Other special episodes as per Pokelego999. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 20:54, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

BIbarel

that's an uppercase i, not a lowercase L. doesn't seem like a plausible or possible typo, considering how the search function works cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 17:11, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Magnufo

a... fan-made finnish name used in a fandom wiki and nowhere else? it seems to have been speculation before, but i found nothing that suggests the creator didn't come up with it on the spot cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 17:06, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete, seems like it was created as a short-lived article under the misinterpretation as to what the translation from Japanese would be (and also perhaps as a duplicate of an existing one). I have looked at the original article from '07 and its references on archive.org, which have no mention of this name. Google only turns up fan speculation from around the time, nothing credible. Bungle (talk • contribs) 19:22, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per above --Lenticel (talk) 02:50, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Stubby (Pokémon)

funny, but i found nothing suggesting that this was ever even speculated to be its name cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 17:02, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

it just occurred to me that "stubby" is an actual word
which means i should look for any mention of a bidoof with that nickname, which is worse than looking for a pokémon with that name for its species cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 20:03, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Checked Bulbapedia. According to them, while there are no in-game trades featuring a Bidoof named Stubby in any generation, in the Sinnoh games, you can enter a Super Contest and end up facing down a Pokemon with the nickname "Stubby."
The issue is that Stubby is a Barboach, not a Bidoof. This is true in both Gen 4 and Gen 8. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 21:04, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

NYSE: F

Only redirect of its kind, with most others of the same format omitting the space between the colon and identifier. mwwv converse∫edits 17:02, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Starlhawk

the only results i've seen of this that aren't misspellings of "starhawk" are speculation or wikipedia-related tools cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 16:59, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Starlbird

the only results i've seen of this that aren't misspellings of "starbird" are speculation or wikipedia-related tools cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 16:58, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Chimeglebell

doesn't seem like it was ever intended or speculated to be its name. wouldn't work in-game either, as it's 12 characters long when pokémon names had a 10 character limit until gen 5 (it was raised to 12 in gen 6). see talk:chingling for proof that this isn't even the first time this was questioned cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 16:54, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Arzeus

may admittedly be jumping the gun here. this doesn't seem similar to any possible spelling or pronunciation of its name cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 16:47, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Magburn

fan speculation for its english name, on the same vein as laxbe which i nominated a little under (or was it over?) a month ago. unlike laxbe, i found a few results, but they pretty solidly established this as a fan name that was dropped in favor of its admittedly inferior official name cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 16:42, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep if a reference to this as a fan-name is added. If it has a few results it seems to be a decently plausible search target, however niche. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 18:13, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Dusky pink

Not mentioned in the target article. Searching the rest of Wikipedia for this phrase, the phrase seems to be mentioned in multiple articles, but none of the respective articles seems to define this redirect adequately to be an appropriate target for this redirect. Steel1943 (talk) 16:05, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Baby pinks

Not mentioned in target disambiguation page. Steel1943 (talk) 14:29, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Zoznam.sk

A redirect to Seznam.cz seems inappropriate given that these are two completely different websites. Zoznam.sk looks more like a tabloid than independent source, and I can't find any evidence that both sites are owned by the same agency/publisher. I would suggest to delete and leave as an empty page until someone did a research about the site with proper references. Clara A. Djalim (talk) 10:12, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Karli Smith

Victims of a shooting generally do not have articles unless they become notable in their own right. It isn't appropriate to associate a search term of their names with an event which took their life. The individuals would already appear in search results on the event article without the need of an explicit redirect. I am unsure if there is specific policy around this, as WP:VICTIM merely mentions outright articles specifically. Bungle (talk • contribs) 09:12, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

well other victims of shootings typically get redirected to the shooting article. Sandy Hook Elementary school shooting for example. Victims such as Allison Wyatt, Grace McDonnell etc have redirects. Elizzaflanagan221 (talk) 12:28, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Your argument that WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS is poor and is not in itself a reason why the aforementioned should be kept as redirects. We have to ask for what benefit and purpose does an article or redirect serve in its existence? I don't see any value in these redirects and as the victims are all deceased, cannot decide themselves if they'd want their identities associated with such an atrocity. I don't see any policy specific to this circumstance, which is probably why there is no agreed precedent. Bungle (talk • contribs) 13:24, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
well like i said, most articles on mass tragedy events have redirects with the victims names. If you think its morally wrong or u dont agree with it, you should make this a bigger discussion and not just solely on the FedEx shooting. Elizzaflanagan221 (talk) 17:18, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Stupefying

This redirect is so stupefying (pun intended). Date rape drugs are hardly the only thing in the world that could be considered "stupefying". Maybe retarget to wikt:stupefying? Duckmather (talk) 04:42, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Roman CatholicnDiocese of Nha Trang

Atypical typo in title. Thousands of diocese, and only one "Catholicn" redirect. BD2412 T 03:53, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy delete Seems like {{Db-error}} page move happened, without any significant history. Ca talk to me! 06:56, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry to reply like this, but aren't you an admin? You can delete this without fuss if this wasn't listed here. Intrisit (talk) 17:59, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
WP:NORUSH. Steel1943 (talk) 19:12, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Betamine

Recommend deletion of this redirect, unless a reliable source can be found that betamine = betanin. Currently, the only evidence that's been presented is a 1980 patent that doesn't exactly say betamine = betanin. Google Scholar turns up three results and Google turns up nothing relevant. voorts (talk/contributions) 00:55, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please check out the chemical formulae. Unless I misread something, the formula in that patent for betamine is the same as in the article for betanin. Grv87 (talk) 16:36, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The source that you found, Hagers Handbuch der Pharmazeutischen Praxis, Vol. 2, edition of 1969, lists synonyms:
> Beetenrot. Betanin. Rouge de betterave. Bétamine. Rosso di barbabietola. Betamina. (E 162) Grv87 (talk) 18:18, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ok. I analyzed about 10 scientific articles that mention 'betamine'. Looks that it's a common word for typos. Besides betanin, it could also mean betaine, ketamine or Betadine. 2 articles use it for some other compounds. Not C9H10I2N2O2, but containing sulfur or phospohours. And 2 articles use 'betamine' for 'major pigment of red beet'. I think we could agree this means betanin. I checked the sources of these articles, they have 'betanine' and 'betamin'. So, we can see how 'betanin' becomes 'betamine'. BTW, 'betamine' as red beet dye is mentioned in one of House M.D. episodes. As for the patent, it references the article in Drugs & Cosmetic Industry. This article indeed has 'betamine', but no sources. And that magazine is unreliable, I found typos even in authors names. So, my proposition 1) delete redirect 2) save information about dental plaque disclosant in betanin article. Can we agree on this? Grv87 (talk) 17:38, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The content of the betamine article should be discussed on that talk page, not here. If you want to share some sources on the article talk page, I'm happy to take a look. voorts (talk/contributions) 17:41, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Will do. What's the process on redirect, should I delete it myself, or we have to wait for consensus? Grv87 (talk) 17:49, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Wait for the process to play out. voorts (talk/contributions) 17:55, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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