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<pre>Prior to the tournament, 8 teams were seeded the Super 8 stage — Australia, India, New Zealand and Sri Lanka in Group 1 while England, Pakistan, South Africa and the West Indies in Group 2. If they advance from the group stage, they will be placed in pre-determined positions in the Super 8 stage, irrespective of their position in the group stage. If an unseeded team qualifies at the expense of a seeded team, they will take the position of the corresponding seeded team that failed to qualify from the group.</pre> |
<pre>Prior to the tournament, 8 teams were seeded the Super 8 stage — Australia, India, New Zealand and Sri Lanka in Group 1 while England, Pakistan, South Africa and the West Indies in Group 2. If they advance from the group stage, they will be placed in pre-determined positions in the Super 8 stage, irrespective of their position in the group stage. If an unseeded team qualifies at the expense of a seeded team, they will take the position of the corresponding seeded team that failed to qualify from the group.</pre> |
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All these information are already given in the format section, and also explained in the notes below the table. <span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;font-size:100%;color:#50B849;background-color:transparent;;">'''''Vestrian24Bio'''''</span> (<small>[[User talk:Vestrian24Bio|<span style="font-family:Times New Roman;font-size:100%;color:#50B849;background-color:transparent;;">'''''TALK'''''</span>]]</small>) 02:30, 15 June 2024 (UTC) |
All these information are already given in the format section, and also explained in the notes below the table. <span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;font-size:100%;color:#50B849;background-color:transparent;;">'''''Vestrian24Bio'''''</span> (<small>[[User talk:Vestrian24Bio|<span style="font-family:Times New Roman;font-size:100%;color:#50B849;background-color:transparent;;">'''''TALK'''''</span>]]</small>) 02:30, 15 June 2024 (UTC) |
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:I think that info is more relevant in the super 8 section than the format. During Super 8, how teams were allotted into the two groups is more important than halfway up the article. The Super 8 template might also be useful to edit, it feels very cumbersome to have a note beside every team in super 8. [[User:Soni|Soni]] ([[User talk:Soni|talk]]) 14:35, 15 June 2024 (UTC) |
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USA can still finish in top eight
USA can still finish in top eight of 2022 world cup, so the qualification should include USA till it is officially declared. But the same when I edited for on 2nd July, then it was not displaying. why? Anishssgj (talk) 02:24, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
USA host status with regards to qualifying
Kia ora (hello) everyone
As per this article, USA are no longer an official co-host of the WC (from what I can gather). Does anyone know of any sources which state their qualifying status? I'm leaving it as is for now, but as usual, the ICC has been very vague on this matter.
What. It is a host. Thanks KakapoKiwi12 (talk) 22:58, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
- They are still hosts, but they have been removed from the organising part of hosting. Moedk (talk) 05:29, 21 November 2022 (UTC)
- OK, so they qualify automatically, but don't organize anything. KakapoKiwi12 (talk) 23:41, 21 November 2022 (UTC)
- Yes, at the moment it is still planned to host matches in USA, but WI have all organising responsibilities. Moedk (talk) 06:46, 23 November 2022 (UTC)
- OK, so they qualify automatically, but don't organize anything. KakapoKiwi12 (talk) 23:41, 21 November 2022 (UTC)
Qualification graphic
From ICC - See ICC graphic 110.33.28.251 (talk) 12:52, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
- For those who can't click on things for some reason, here is the relevant text:
- ICC MEN'S T20 WORLD CUP 2024 - 20 TEAMS
- 2 host nations - USA and West Indies
- Top 8 teams at the ICC Men's T20 World Cup 2022 (top 4 teams in each Super 12 group)
- Top 2† best ranked unqualified teams (In the MRF Tyres ICC Men's T20I Team Rankings on 14 November 2022)
- 8 qualifiers through regional finals
- † if the USA and/or West Indies finish in the top 8 at the ICC Men's T20 World Cup 2022, the 3-4 best-ranked unqualified teams qualify
- Hope that clears things up 110.33.28.251 (talk) 00:33, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
- @Virander.sirohi: please see the above and then tell me who is WRONG. Spike 'em (talk) 15:17, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
- @Virander.sirohi: please see the above and state your interpretationSpike 'em (talk) 15:30, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
- Or this source: [1]
What I seriously don't understand is this. Sure, the ICC often says "Top 8 qualify" but that is just a quick vague description, which could mean a couple of different things. However, whenever they clarify what that means, it is always clear: "Top 4 teams in each Super 12 group". If there was something that said "Top 8 results across the two groups" I might have a bit more sympathy to this. Also, the way the WIndies and US are treated in this wouldn't make any sense if it were Top 8 overall, you wouldn't need to include their possible results in the mix if that were the case - it would happen naturally. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.33.28.251 (talk) 02:06, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
Qualifiers by ranking
Cricket News — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ams2255 (talk • contribs) 04:20, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
Probably good to get consensus (or historical precedent) on when this is "determined". Regardless of whether India win their last match I am 99.9999% sure the teams will be Afghanistan and Bangladesh, but I'm not sure what to use to "prove" this - as the rankings on the link are at 31 October (and have some errors compared with the ICC page as well). Does that current list suffice as "evidence", or do we need an update to (say) the last game any relevant team plays (ie, up to 6 November) or do we need to wait for the 14 November update. 110.33.28.251 (talk) 09:36, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
- You might note this has already been effectively factored into the qualification tournament links (so Zimbabwe is listed in the Africa final, Ireland in the Europe one, but Bangladesh and Afghanistan not in the Asian one) 110.33.28.251 (talk) 11:33, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
- Maybe wait for the ICC out some other reliable source to state "Afg and Bang have qualified sure to rankings" Spike 'em (talk) 12:26, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
- Cricinfo says Afg Ban already qualified. I guess the ranking wont change much on 14th. Human (talk) 01:08, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
Zimbabwe and Ireland
Is there a reason Zimbabwe and Ireland were promoted to "Qualified". I saw User: 2001:8F8:1D61:6A1B:4D19:B52C:A9DE:9808 went ahead and updated almost 5-6 pages with this information. Have there been any changes? Sputink (talk) 19:58, 3 January 2023 (UTC)
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The hyperlink of England takes to the Nepal Cricket team so please change the link from Nepal to England Rashbeth (talk) 14:47, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. 𝓥𝓮𝓼𝓽𝓻𝓲𝓪𝓷24𝓑𝓲𝓸 (ᴛᴀʟᴋ) 16:19, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
Vandalism
someone added NEPAL in the semi final and India Vs Nepal in the final. This is vandalism. Anishssgj (talk) 04:55, 4 November 2023 (UTC)
Edit not supporting
Nepal has qualified but when edited Nepal doesn't show in Asia Qualifier. only oman shows up. Anishssgj (talk) 04:58, 4 November 2023 (UTC)
Group Stage Teams
Someone added teams in the group stage. ICC has yet to announce these teams 39.62.1.34 (talk) 19:07, 8 November 2023 (UTC)
- Seconded. Someone needs to remove the edits by Tanbin20 since its unsourced and inaccurate information. The group stage seedings haven't been announced yet. 171.76.80.65 (talk) 22:17, 8 November 2023 (UTC)
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- Please revert the four edits by Tanbin 20 and revert the Group stage subsection to this version https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2024_ICC_Men%27s_T20_World_Cup&oldid=1183971227 171.76.80.65 (talk) 22:20, 8 November 2023 (UTC)
Already done Pinchme123 (talk) 05:35, 9 November 2023 (UTC)
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Groups are not published yet and the vandalism has been done. Cites an article that doesn't really talk about what the guy's editing. Only thing certain about group division as of yet is india and Pakistan will be on same group nothing else.
The previous edits are vandalism and spreading false rumors. 120.89.104.50 (talk) 22:47, 8 November 2023 (UTC)
- Already done Duplicate. Pinchme123 (talk) 05:35, 9 November 2023 (UTC)
Maps and stadiums
After much discussion and so on, we decided to remove the photos and simplify the layout of these on the 2023 Cricket World Cup article. For the same reasons I'll propose doing so here as well, Blue Square Thing (talk) 20:50, 19 November 2023 (UTC)
- Bump this for comment. Also, given the recent change made to the list, do we actually know the venues rather than just the countries? This strikes me as someone having a guess that if it's county X then it must be ground Y rather than, outside the USA, us actually knowing which grounds will be played on yet? Blue Square Thing (talk) 07:09, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
- Unless there's sources for the venues, it seems like WP:SYNTH to assume they'll all be in the biggest cricket stadiums in a country. Brian Lara Cricket Academy and the US venues have been confirmed, but as far as I can see, the Caribbean venues have not- only the hosting countries. Joseph2302 (talk) 11:10, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
- This is now done with one way of doing it. If anyone knows if there's a map of just the eastern Caribbean that would be helpful - far too much blank space. I'm sure this will all be reverted without a comment here - discuss first please: no one raised objections. I've cut the data to just the confirmed venues and commented out the sections that will need to be added. There's also a commented out number of matches column that can be added once we actually know the number of matches. I imagine a photo of the Kensington Oval might be appropriate as that's the final venue. Blue Square Thing (talk) 10:34, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks for that, looks much better, though as you say, I'm sure someone will unilaterally revert back to the version with the unsourced venues and the maps in the middle. As for the Caribbean image issue, not sure it's easily fixable, as the template is using Module:Location map/data/Caribbean which fixes the image, and there isn't an equivalent module for "Eastern Caribbean"/"West Indies" so far as I can see. Joseph2302 (talk) 11:31, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
- And I see that Pkr206 is adding the countries back that haven't confirmed their venues.... Joseph2302 (talk) 14:15, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
- Tbh, it's a bit silly to not include the countries that are still confirmed, especially when they only have one venue it could possibly be. Removing the venues just seems like blindly following rules, rather than going with reality, and it makes the page less accurate overall. Edit: This is even mentioned in WP:SYNTH with "Any straightforward reading of such media is not original research provided that there is consensus among editors that the techniques used are correctly applied and a meaningful reflection of the sources." It's a pretty straight forward reading of the sources, that at least in Guyana, Providence will be used as it's the only stadium available.Basetornado (talk) 14:32, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
- All of the countries have more than one cricket stadium, so it could be any of them hosting it. Joseph2302 (talk) 14:47, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
- They don't though. The other grounds are either abandoned or are not used for international games. I understand your point, but it feels like the worst part of wikipedia, where common sense is ignored, because it doesn't have a source explictly stating the ground, despite the sources we do have, making it clear what grounds are in play because it's not necessary to say it due to the context, which is where the "Straightforward reading" comes into play. Removing them from the page, just makes things more difficult for the reader. I understand if it gets changed, and i'm not going to stop you. But it is only making the page worse overall. Basetornado (talk) 15:09, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
- Except for Guyana, which only has Providence Stadium and Bourda is no longer in use. Pkr206 (talk) 15:48, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
- All of the countries have more than one cricket stadium, so it could be any of them hosting it. Joseph2302 (talk) 14:47, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
- Tbh, it's a bit silly to not include the countries that are still confirmed, especially when they only have one venue it could possibly be. Removing the venues just seems like blindly following rules, rather than going with reality, and it makes the page less accurate overall. Edit: This is even mentioned in WP:SYNTH with "Any straightforward reading of such media is not original research provided that there is consensus among editors that the techniques used are correctly applied and a meaningful reflection of the sources." It's a pretty straight forward reading of the sources, that at least in Guyana, Providence will be used as it's the only stadium available.Basetornado (talk) 14:32, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
- And I see that Pkr206 is adding the countries back that haven't confirmed their venues.... Joseph2302 (talk) 14:15, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks for that, looks much better, though as you say, I'm sure someone will unilaterally revert back to the version with the unsourced venues and the maps in the middle. As for the Caribbean image issue, not sure it's easily fixable, as the template is using Module:Location map/data/Caribbean which fixes the image, and there isn't an equivalent module for "Eastern Caribbean"/"West Indies" so far as I can see. Joseph2302 (talk) 11:31, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
- Just be patient and wait. We’re jumping the gun again and speculating. That’s a pretty poor way to build something reliable and trustworthy. It doesn’t have to be added right now. Given that places have already pulled out, let’s try and wait and actually get it right for a change Blue Square Thing (talk) 15:14, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
- This isn't speculation though. It's using context. I will also say that I don't really trust your edits, after you reverted back one of mine after I fixed your writing that made no sense, telling me to "Trust you" that it did make sense, even though it clearly didn't. Basetornado (talk) 15:20, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
- Just be patient and wait. We’re jumping the gun again and speculating. That’s a pretty poor way to build something reliable and trustworthy. It doesn’t have to be added right now. Given that places have already pulled out, let’s try and wait and actually get it right for a change Blue Square Thing (talk) 15:14, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
Can we at least add back the photos, I understand only going with the confirmed venues, but it looks much worse without the photos. It just looks unfinished now. Basetornado (talk) 14:02, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
- It is a lot more readable without them. One of the Kensington Oval might be appropriate if it is actually going to be the ground they play the final on. Anything else is probably a really bad idea Blue Square Thing (talk) 15:16, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
- If you say so. It just looks a bit empty without them. Basetornado (talk) 15:21, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
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Lot of unnecessary and unsourced edits by anonymous users is leading to confusions. Cric editor (talk) 14:15, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
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Fixture lists
Is there an actual source for the fixture lists, and even the teams in the groups? [2] says they know the groups, but unless information is actually confirmed by the ICC, it seems like WP:SPECULATION to me. The entire groups and fixture lists being added don't seem to have actually been confirmed by the ICC, it would make sense for them to actually announce it instead of copying other new sources' claims of groups for this event. Joseph2302 (talk) 14:58, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
Descent to garbage status
Apparently it is vital to have not one, but two, lists of the venues and locations and capacities, but also the utterly critical information of how may matches are played at each ground. Yet, it isn't particularly important that, given the qualification to the second stage is LITERALLY DETERMINED BY THE SEEDING, what the seeding is. In fact, this information actually is actively removed by editors who then seek to close off access to anyone fixing their garbage. 0/10, would laugh at again (particularly when people start adding second round qualification in and do it wrong). 165.12.252.116 (talk) 04:28, 11 January 2024 (UTC)
- 20 minutes. That's all it took. 165.12.252.115 (talk) 04:48, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
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Detailed match details
Where will we have the expanded match detailed matches: I am referring to this kind:
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- South Africa won the toss and elected to field.
- Eoin Morgan played in his 200th ODI for England. He also scored his 7,000th run in ODIs.
- Imran Tahir (SA), at the age of 40 years and 64 days, became the oldest cricketer for South Africa to play in a World Cup match.
As opposed to this kind, for which the space is given in the article.
Pharaoh496 (talk) 12:42, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
- I propose having a seperate page for all the groups, super 8s and knockouts. They would look like this:
- 2024 ICC Men's T20 World Cup Group A
- 2024 ICC Men's T20 World Cup Group B
- 2024 ICC Men's T20 World Cup Group C
- 2024 ICC Men's T20 World Cup Group D
2024 ICC Men's T20 World Cup Group E2024 ICC Men's T20 World Cup Group F- 2024 ICC Men's T20 World Cup knockout stage
- This was done for articles relating to the 2007 Cricket World Cup, for example Pharaoh496 (talk) 12:44, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
- I Just saw this comment; even though I support it its too many articles; I'd say:
- Would be enough.
- User Ping: @Wowlastic10 Vestrian24Bio (TALK) 18:01, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
- usually if there is one group you have one group stage. if its multiple you have for all of them.
- We had four for the 2007 wc, keep in mind they had 4 teams a group. We have five here, so that would increase page scope. Pharaoh496 (talk) 18:03, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
- Agree with A, B, C, D but E & F should be
- Vestrian24Bio (TALK) 18:06, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
- agreed. should we get started Pharaoh496 (talk) 19:03, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
- Have created the pages. will you set them up? I am working on another project at this moment Pharaoh496 (talk) 19:12, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
- Okay, I will set them up; also should we create one for the warm-up matches as well... Vestrian24Bio (TALK) 10:06, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
- nah warm-ups are not real matches, always stay hidden in the main article itself. There are some pages out there for warm-ups of specific tournaments, which should be merged as well Pharaoh496 (talk) 10:23, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Vestrian24Bio I have seen both options but cant add a reply there.
- You can add both if you are able to, as both look fine. Pharaoh496 (talk) 17:40, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
- One below the other, so option 1 Pharaoh496 (talk) 17:41, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Vestrian24Bio When you are working on them, remember to shorten/minimise the match details template like the thing I showed in my initial message! Pharaoh496 (talk) 18:31, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
- I got some work today with Category:ICC Men's T20 World Cup and 2024 ICC Men's T20 World Cup qualification; I will get back to group once I am done. Vestrian24Bio (TALK) 02:42, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
- Got it chief Pharaoh496 (talk) 07:07, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
- I got some work today with Category:ICC Men's T20 World Cup and 2024 ICC Men's T20 World Cup qualification; I will get back to group once I am done. Vestrian24Bio (TALK) 02:42, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Vestrian24Bio When you are working on them, remember to shorten/minimise the match details template like the thing I showed in my initial message! Pharaoh496 (talk) 18:31, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
- One below the other, so option 1 Pharaoh496 (talk) 17:41, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
- nah warm-ups are not real matches, always stay hidden in the main article itself. There are some pages out there for warm-ups of specific tournaments, which should be merged as well Pharaoh496 (talk) 10:23, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
- Okay, I will set them up; also should we create one for the warm-up matches as well... Vestrian24Bio (TALK) 10:06, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
- I think there is no need for creating pages for individual groups. One page for group stage and one for Super 8 is enough like 2023 Cricket World Cup and knockout matches can be detailed in this page only. Kumarpramit (talk) 17:52, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
- As pointed out by @Pharaoh496; They didn't have groups in 2023; but they did in 2007. Vestrian24Bio (TALK) 17:58, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Kumarpramit has vandalised by moving that page (facepalm), watch out @Vestrian24Bio as I dont want to interfere with your work to save you trouble. Pharaoh496 (talk) 18:57, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
- In 2007 there was no other pages created. It was in the main article.
- You can also check others sports articles where there are more than four groups but it is in a single page under group stage Kumarpramit (talk) 19:02, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
- No, its not! What articles are we referring to? Pharaoh496 (talk) 19:32, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Kumarpramit Take a look at these. Vestrian24Bio (TALK) 02:12, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
- As pointed out by @Pharaoh496; They didn't have groups in 2023; but they did in 2007. Vestrian24Bio (TALK) 17:58, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
- Somebody changed it back!!!!! PLSSSS!!! 2400:ADC5:164:3000:9496:392F:75CE:AD63 (talk) 19:22, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
- Don't chage it back!! I want to keep that in details not summary 2400:ADC5:164:3000:9496:392F:75CE:AD63 (talk) 19:23, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
Okay, now a quick question: which of the following is preferable
Group progression
| Team | Group matches | |||
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| 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | |
| Canada | 0 | |||
| India | ||||
| Ireland | 2 | |||
| Pakistan | ||||
| United States | ||||
| Win | Loss | No result |
- Note: The total points at the end of each group match are listed.
- Note: Click on the points to see the match summary.
Group stage summary
| Visitor team → | CAN | IND | IRE | PAK | USA |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Home team ↓ | |||||
| Canada | Match 9 | United States 7 wickets | |||
| India | Match 2 | Match 5 | |||
| Ireland | Match 4 | ||||
| Pakistan | Match 6 | Match 10 | |||
| United States | Match 7 | Match 8 | Match 3 |
| Visitor team won |
- Note: Results listed are according to the home (horizontal) and visitor (vertical) teams.
- Note: Click on a result to see a summary of the match.
Group progression
| Team | Group matches | |||
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | |
| Canada | 0 | |||
| India | ||||
| Ireland | 2 | |||
| Pakistan | ||||
| United States | ||||
| Win | Loss | No result |
- Note: The total points at the end of each group match are listed.
- Note: Click on the points to see the match summary.
Group stage summary
| Visitor team → | CAN | IND | IRE | PAK | USA |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Home team ↓ | |||||
| Canada | Match 9 | United States 7 wickets | |||
| India | Match 2 | Match 5 | |||
| Ireland | Match 4 | ||||
| Pakistan | Match 6 | Match 10 | |||
| United States | Match 7 | Match 8 | Match 3 |
| Visitor team won |
- Note: Results listed are according to the home (horizontal) and visitor (vertical) teams.
- Note: Click on a result to see a summary of the match.
Which of the above should it be??? Vestrian24Bio (TALK) 17:19, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
- Hi, I think it is not necessary to create those separate articles. Fade258 (talk) 05:35, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
- I am obviously late to this, but I don't see why we need pages for each group when it can be included on one article. I know it is sometimes done in major football ('soccer') tournaments, but feels unnecessary here. Bs1jac (talk) 14:15, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Has been done in cricket pages as well. We always have atleast one for each group
- "Not Needed:" How can you determine this really? It looks neat, main page is short and wont be too long when a summary is added. Plus, the seperate pages have more compiled information.
- Pharaoh496 (talk) 14:21, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Also, it helps with managing the Prose size of main article. Vestrian24Bio (TALK) 14:24, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- On reflection, I don't mind this in the case of a major tournament with multiple groups, stages, and with significant prose, etc. Bs1jac (talk) 14:45, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
Statistics
Can we make a statistics page for all t20 world cup articles like we have for the odi world cups? Kindly tell me so that I can let my work begin. Thanks! Wowlastic10 (talk) 06:06, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
- Hi, Would you please add those articles here for reference? Fade258 (talk) 06:40, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Fade258 Like we have 2024 ICC Men's T20 World Cup statistics, can we cretae this type of articles for other t20 wc editions like 2022, 2021 etc.
- Reference Articles: 2023 Cricket World Cup statistics, 2019 Cricket World Cup statistics. Wowlastic10 (talk) 07:01, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for the reference, If there is enough content with reliable and independent sources then go for it. Fade258 (talk) 08:14, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
- I'd say go for it; but just in case it's better to see what other editors say as well. Vestrian24Bio (TALK) 07:49, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
Points system
The article says that the "top two" teams from each group advance to the next stage, but does not explain how the "top two" are determined. The tables apparently show that teams win points in the group stage (and also Super 8?) that determine the rankings within the groups. How points are obtained should be explained in the article (as well as any tie-break system for when two teams have the same number of points, if it is possible for that to happen). --superioridad (discusión) 18:01, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Already given at ICC Men's T20 World Cup#Final tournament Vestrian24Bio (TALK) 00:40, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- That explains tiebreakers but it does not explain what points are or how a team might acquire them. --superioridad (discusión) 04:08, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
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The Super 8 teams are outdated. USA is in the Super 8 right now. It needs an update. Anvaysaxena1 (talk) 23:13, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
Not done: They're in with a win or no result today, but if they lose, they can be caught, and then tiebreakers come into play, so it's too early to predict NRR. —C.Fred (talk) 12:22, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
Daren Sammy or Darren Sammy?
In the page at 6 instances it was written Daren Sammy cricket stadium, but under the match of Sri Lanka vs Netherlands the venue is mentioned as Darren Sammy cricket stadium which mismatched the number of occurrences with the number of matches to be held by the find in the page method. 160.238.93.251 (talk) 19:05, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
- Looks like a simple typo. It's been corrected to "Daren Sammy". —C.Fred (talk) 19:34, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
Australia is in Group B and it is top 1 in that group. So, it should be in Group 2 of Super 8, Right?
Super 8 is not clear 2409:40F0:3008:7A4E:8000:0:0:0 (talk) 01:50, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
- They are allotted to groups per their pre-tournament seedings; it's all explained in the notes given below the table. Vestrian24Bio (TALK) 02:27, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
- And even in the prose above... Clog Wolf Howl 04:48, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
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In the prize money section, please change, "Participants who finish 13th to 20th place will return $225,000." to "Participants who finish in the 13th to 20th place will get $225,000." or "Participants who finish in the 13th to 20th place will return $225,000 richer." 2406:7400:90:92A7:7C61:D8FE:8336:759D (talk) 13:50, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
- "Participants who finish 13th to 20th will get $225,000." will be the shortest sentence to use.-2406:7400:90:92A7:7C61:D8FE:8336:759D (talk) 13:54, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
- Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Fade258 (talk) 15:01, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
Broadcasters
The Broadcasters section should be moved under Background as a sub-section, as the broadcasters TV channels and radio stations were decided before the world-cup actually started. Hence having a seperate section doesn't make sense. IndoPakAfgh (talk) 09:43, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
- No, they're the least important thing, so should be at the bottom. Or my preference would be not in the article. Joseph2302 (talk) 13:21, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
About marking teams as qualified in groups
I think while the groups are ongoing, we should continue listing Q/E for all teams in all the groups. Otherwise it becomes very hard to tell from a glance that (for example) Afghanistan/West Indies are both guaranteed qualified (so Group C has everyone "advanced") versus the other groups (Group A has top 2 teams coloured green, but only India ia qualified for sure yet). Soni (talk) 17:09, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
- In other groups, green colored text says "Advance to Super 8"; But Group C - green colored text says "Advanced to Super 8" (past tense). Vestrian24Bio (TALK) 17:13, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
- That's a minor enough difference that it's very easy to miss. We have three indicators (Advance/Q-E/colours). If we can use multiple of them to make things clear, we should. There's no cost to listing Q/E right now and a clear loss if we dont (If you don't notice past tense, this is misleading) Soni (talk) 18:33, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
- Let's just use the Q/E its better that the red color. Vestrian24Bio (TALK) 00:54, 15 June 2024 (UTC)
- That's a minor enough difference that it's very easy to miss. We have three indicators (Advance/Q-E/colours). If we can use multiple of them to make things clear, we should. There's no cost to listing Q/E right now and a clear loss if we dont (If you don't notice past tense, this is misleading) Soni (talk) 18:33, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
Red for elimination
I don't think red should be used as the teams aren't being relegated anywhere and it is usually used for such Wigglebot23 (talk) 21:32, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
- I agree with that red colors shouldn't be used here. Vestrian24Bio (TALK) 00:46, 15 June 2024 (UTC)
Paragraph under the table in Super 8 section
Do we need the following paragraph under the table in Super 8 section?
Prior to the tournament, 8 teams were seeded the Super 8 stage — Australia, India, New Zealand and Sri Lanka in Group 1 while England, Pakistan, South Africa and the West Indies in Group 2. If they advance from the group stage, they will be placed in pre-determined positions in the Super 8 stage, irrespective of their position in the group stage. If an unseeded team qualifies at the expense of a seeded team, they will take the position of the corresponding seeded team that failed to qualify from the group.
All these information are already given in the format section, and also explained in the notes below the table. Vestrian24Bio (TALK) 02:30, 15 June 2024 (UTC)
- I think that info is more relevant in the super 8 section than the format. During Super 8, how teams were allotted into the two groups is more important than halfway up the article. The Super 8 template might also be useful to edit, it feels very cumbersome to have a note beside every team in super 8. Soni (talk) 14:35, 15 June 2024 (UTC)