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:Other dogs/breeds. I thought it'd be obvious but I will clarify it, thanks. [[User:Traumnovelle|Traumnovelle]] ([[User talk:Traumnovelle#top|talk]]) 02:22, 14 June 2024 (UTC) |
:Other dogs/breeds. I thought it'd be obvious but I will clarify it, thanks. [[User:Traumnovelle|Traumnovelle]] ([[User talk:Traumnovelle#top|talk]]) 02:22, 14 June 2024 (UTC) |
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::In fact after making these edits it is probably for the best given some studies just take the rate for mongrels and use that to calculate an odds ratio. [[User:Traumnovelle|Traumnovelle]] ([[User talk:Traumnovelle#top|talk]]) 02:25, 14 June 2024 (UTC) |
::In fact after making these edits it is probably for the best given some studies just take the rate for mongrels and use that to calculate an odds ratio. [[User:Traumnovelle|Traumnovelle]] ([[User talk:Traumnovelle#top|talk]]) 02:25, 14 June 2024 (UTC) |
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Reusing references
Hello, I reused the reference you added to Dog skin disorders because I assume that's what you were trying to do. See the relevant help page. Also, when you linked to "extremities", that link went to a disambiguation page (i.e. a page with various meanings of the word "Extremity) rather than an article; I changed it to link to "Paw". Graham87 (talk) 04:37, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
- I think I actually forgot to add a citation myself. But that was the source I was using. I linked to extremities because that's what the paper referred to which includes paws amongst other things. I left the disambiguation as multiple pages there were correct/relevant, although that may be confusing/not apparent. Traumnovelle (talk) 04:49, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
- Ah yes. We generally much prefer no link at all rather than a link to a disambiguation page except in very unusual situations. Since "extremities" is a common English word, I think it's fine to leave it unlinked ... and have just put that word back again. Graham87 (talk) 09:59, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
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- I didn't realise it was spam, I assumed it was a good faith addition of an unreliable source. Traumnovelle (talk) 02:25, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
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- The period would've been a mistake I just simply didn't notice, thanks. Traumnovelle (talk) 02:31, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
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Regarding this edit, [1], per WP:SAYWHERE, we cite the source where we read the information, which in this case was a 1992 pest control conference. Not where the source we're citing found it. Geogene (talk) 18:46, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks. Traumnovelle (talk) 18:47, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
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Reversion of French bulldog article
You reverted the edits I was making to the citations in the French bulldog article before I had finished. I'm now done, having over-written the reversion with the edits I was working on at the time; I think it's cumulative of everything I'd done. You may wish to again revert the edits, since it seems that you are so inclined.
107.122.85.58 (talk) 20:48, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
- I just saw the broken reference so I reverted, it's fine to overwrite if you're working on an article and someone reverts an unfinished change once you're finished.
- Your edit got reverted by someone else this time. I'd like to note on Wikipedia consensus supports using standardised breed names for capitalisation per MOS:BREED. For example the French Bulldog and Labrador Retriever are capitalised as their breed standard has the name capitalised. Abyssinian cat doesn't have cat isn't included in the breed standard so it's not capitalised. Traumnovelle (talk) 20:57, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
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Ingratis (talk) 10:49, 22 March 2024 (UTC)CN tags at National Canine Research Council
Did you check the La Presse reference at the end of that paragraph before you placed all the CN tags in this diff [2]? It seems strongly implied that all the information in that paragraph would have come from there. Geogene (talk) 01:01, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, I can't speak French but Barry Pless isn't mentioned in the source. Traumnovelle (talk) 01:05, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
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Hi! You've made a load of good edits to dog articles, for which many thanks! However, I'm slightly concerned at your numerous additions of a single study in a single country as a definitive source for life expectancy, and have reverted one such change at German Shepherd. As I said there, if there's a comprehensive scientific study of all longevity data published to date, it might be better to cite that. I'd expect such a study (if there is one, I haven't looked) to yield a range of values which might be more reliable than the figures published in the innumerable breed encyclopaedias, but until it's found those probably give a broader consensus figure than one small study in one small country. Don't want to make a big deal of this, but do take it to WT:DOGS if you like. Regards, Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 10:43, 21 April 2024 (UTC)
- I broke the reply when editing my comment. Do you feel the inclusion of those three studies in Wikivoice with the figure range presented in the infobox to be fine? I can try and get consensus on the Wikiproject in regards to which sources should be used for life expectancy but I feel that'd be quite slow and have little engagement. Traumnovelle (talk) 09:54, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
I'm not aware of any meta-analysis/systemic review of life expectancy data for breeds unfortunately. This the largest study to my knowledge that includes breed data and most of the other sources used are outdated by at least two decades. I'm quite certain the breed encyclopaedias are based on anecdotal evidence given the only studies available at the time are mostly breed club surveys which have much lower figures. I do try and include other studies from other countries if they're recent and have good methodology and I believe I did try and search for one for the German Shepherd but only found a breed club survey with a significantly smaller sample size. I've looked again and gone through quite a few studies and found three of potential merit. This one is same country and smaller sample size but focuses solely on veterinary records whilst the aforementioned study uses several sources: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-022-10341-6/tables/3 I found an Italian study too: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0167587724000412 both of these have merits for inclusion but in regards to an overall analysis, such does not exist to the best of my knowledge. This Swedish study is a bit old but represents a different country, unfortunately it appears the study may be in Swedish: https://link.springer.com/article/10.1186/1751-0147-46-121 Traumnovelle (talk) 20:00, 21 April 2024 (UTC)
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Thanks for providing this interesting page on hypersomatotropism. The page seems to be framed around the relevant chapter from 'Canine and Feline Endocrinology', although there are many other sources to support the ideas from there. Regarding this citation, if you are citing from a book chapter, you should include the chapter title (for example, perhaps in this case it's "Disorders of Growth Hormone" by Reusch - unfortunately I can't see the 2014 edition you seem to be using). If you or other were looking to expand it, it would be great to look at this in other animals.
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- @Klbrain: it does rely almost exclusively on one source but I don't believe that's an issue? Over time other sources will be added and I will come back as I encounter other sources. I cited the pages relevant to the condition which are part of a larger chapter. The chapter is about the pituitary gland with subheadings/subchapters for specific conditions.
- The book is available here: https://www.sciencedirect.com/book/9781455744565/canine-and-feline-endocrinology and the pages are included under section 1 Chapter 2. Traumnovelle (talk) 19:58, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
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pit bull story
Hi, I noticed you reverted my edit on the pit bull death in NYC. And I see now that's because the NYPost is considered an unreliable source. Here's another source for the story in case you'd like to revert my reversion: https://abc7ny.com/police-officers-fatally-shot-a-pit-bull-mauling-his-owner-inside-bronx-apartment/14737414/. Cheers. Juliakamin (talk) 10:34, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
- I looked it up now that you mentioned it, but all the reports appear to be local. There's local consensus to only include incidents with non-local coverage, if you look at the other entries you will see they are either mentioned in a national publication or mentioned in a publication from another area. Traumnovelle (talk) 11:30, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
And if you take a moment to google "pit bull nyc" you will see at least a dozen other sources. Cheers, Julia — Preceding unsigned comment added by Juliakamin (talk • contribs) 10:36, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
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- Changing content to reflect what the citation actually describes isn't edit warring. Your behaviour of reversing an edit to an unverified claim that contradicts the citation then slapping an edit warring notice on my talk page is quite indicative of your own behaviour. Traumnovelle (talk) 11:33, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
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As you did here and here.FortunateSons (talk) 06:20, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
Further: please do not say "Israeli" when you really mean "Jewish". It is imprecise and offensive. Zanahary (talk) 06:45, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Traumnovelle, please acknowledge this FortunateSons (talk) 06:58, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
- I presumed they were Israeli sources. Drop the stick and stop focusing on a quibble like that. Traumnovelle (talk) 07:04, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
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Don't feel too bad about that AfD, I'm sorry that I missed it as I would have voted "Delete". One thing that I have learned while trying to get some sort of consistency for earthquake articles in terms of notability is that almost nobody reads WP:EVENT properly, as far as most participants at AfDs are concerned WP:GNG trumps everything, ignoring the fact the EVENT guideline was written because some startling events do not deserve an article due to the lack of "enduring notability". Another "guideline" I've noticed is that if an earthquake affects an English-speaking country, as long as lots of Wikipedia editors notice it, it doesn't matter what the long-term impact is, it will be kept, unless it's really tiny. The 2020 Caribbean earthquake was in my view kept because people were evacuated from buildings in Florida. It used to upset me but I'm trying to just ignore the inconsistencies, the project's not perfect. Mikenorton (talk) 19:33, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Yeah I've dealt with quite a few WP:ILIKEIT discussions that ignore policy, I just move on because ultimately there are greater issues with the project than the Americentrism in regards to non-notable events and places having articles. Traumnovelle (talk) 19:37, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
Shih Tzu
Hi! You added a statement to this article saying "A UK study found the Shih Tzu to have a 4.02 times greater risk of impaired hepatic perfusion.
" Could you clarify what this means? Great risk compared to what? Other dogs? Other mammals? Something else? I would have done this myself but I don't have access to the journal article that you cited. Thanks! CodeTalker (talk) 02:21, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
- Other dogs/breeds. I thought it'd be obvious but I will clarify it, thanks. Traumnovelle (talk) 02:22, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
- In fact after making these edits it is probably for the best given some studies just take the rate for mongrels and use that to calculate an odds ratio. Traumnovelle (talk) 02:25, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
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