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The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. ✗plicit 14:14, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- Oliver Brand (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Mostly unsourced biography. Provided references are mere directory entries mentioning him and his songs with no biographical information. I found nothing better online to satisfy notability, though it’s entirely possible there may be better sources in print. --Finngall talk 13:38, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Literature, Music, Theatre, and England. --Finngall talk 13:38, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. None of these songs is notable, and his output, for a lyricist, was not impressive. Compare Adrian Ross. I've deleted the material from the bio that attempted to assert notability by saying that he wrote for a theatre company that W. S. Gilbert had also written for. The bio was written by User:FairlyPuzzled, the only article edited by that user, who appears to be a descendant of Brand's. -- Ssilvers (talk) 18:25, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
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The result was keep. Discussions about moving the article can occur on the article talk page.
The nominator, who has been active for just 2 weeks, is advised to acquire more editing experience and policy knowledge before nominating articles for AFD discussions. That's my opinion, not consensus. Liz Read! Talk! 00:16, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
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It doesn't meet WP:GNG and WP:SIGCOV because it's singularly sourced to meet WP:NOTABILITY. I have notability concerns for this article; it must either be deleted or moved to a general article that lists this play. I've looked on the news, Google, books, and scholars but couldn't find anything. Normanhunter2 (talk) 00:09, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Theatre and England. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 00:22, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
- Speedy Keep. The stub cites reviews in The Guardian and The Sunday Times, as well as the Theatricalia listing. Here and Here are more mentions. The V&A Museum even has a feature about the play and its costumes. This play was written well before the internet existed, so most of the sources would be print sources. The play had a starry cast led by Vanessa Redgrave. I disagree with the nominator. It clearly meets WP:GNG and WP:SIGCOV. If we want to fill out the stub to its full potential, someone will have to go to the library and get all the 1971 sources. From what I can see, it has an interesting background: Olivier commissioned the play for the Old Vic, but funding was not sufficient, so it played at the Young Vic. -- Ssilvers (talk) 02:39, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: I've got 1971 reviews from The Daily Telegraph and the Birmingham Post. Combined with the existing reviews, this demonstrates notability for the play. Toughpigs (talk) 03:37, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
- Comment. If kept then it should be moved to Cato Street (play) and Cato Street redirected to Cato Street Conspiracy, the clear primary redirect. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:54, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, that would be fine. -- Ssilvers (talk) 17:42, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keep - cites demonstrate notability; agree a disambiguate move would be helpful. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 16:21, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
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The result was merge to Chronology of early-modern British women playwrights. Moving to a new title can be discussed separately on the merged Talk page. Owen× ☎ 19:57, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
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This is a duplicate list of Chronology of early-modern British women playwrights, just sorted alphabetically. Either this functionally should be merged into that article, or just use a category like Category:Women writers (early modern), which already sorts alphabetically. Having to maintain two identical lists is pointless. Gonnym (talk) 16:43, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Women, Lists of people, Theatre, History, and United Kingdom. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 17:21, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
- Merge with Chronology of early-modern British women playwrights per above. -- Ssilvers (talk) 17:56, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
- Merge: Merge article with the aforementioned Chronology of early-modern British women playwrights, per arguments above. —Mjks28 (talk) 03:29, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
- Merge the 2022-created Chronology of early-modern British women playwrights into this 2006-created list, but convert to a table sortable on surname and birth and death dates (have to work out what to do with the "fl." people), to provide all the functionaliy of both lists. (Note that the inclusion criterion of "active ... before about 1800" seems rather loosely applied as Elizabeth Barrett Browning (1806-1861) is in both lists, although not in List of early-modern British women poets!) PamD 08:03, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
- Merge under the title "List of early-modern British women playwrights", as per the reasons listed in the proposal and responses above, as well as in my previous comments on both talk pages. In fact, putting List of early-modern British women playwrights into a table and removing Chronology of early-modern British women playwrights, which has not been updated, has been on my to-do list for awhile. Since doing so would probably mean making the same changes to the sister lists, List of early-modern British women novelists and List of early-modern British women poets, I have been putting it off. — scribblingwoman 07:25, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
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